Peiser admits he was 97% wrong Category: Bolt • Global Warming Posted on: October 30, 2006 12:57 PM, by Tim Lambert In 2004, Naomi Oreskes looked at a sample...
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Eduardo Ferreyra
funarecomitos
Nov 2, 2006 6:02 am
So science is about the numbers of votes on a subject. Then Wegener's theory of tectonic plates is wrong because the consensus in his time said he was wrong. ...
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Eduardo Ferreyra
funarecomitos
Nov 2, 2006 6:04 am
This was sent by Bob Foster, and it deserves to be published in this list also: Dear all, I won’t attach this paper (4MB); and instead, will just give you a...
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Ned Ford
nedfordrenew
Nov 2, 2006 2:33 pm
Hi Eduardo, I don't imagine you can consider the possibility that the authors of this report actually know a lot more about the science than they are putting...
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Eduardo Ferreyra
funarecomitos
Nov 2, 2006 3:28 pm
Ned, 1) Some warming was observed since 1860, or so, accounting to a total of 0.6º C (in 166 years or so). Nobody denies that. 2) Since 1860 there have been...
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Bruce Forbes
bruce_forbes_nz
Nov 2, 2006 9:11 pm
Hi Ned Sceptics have nothing to fear from science (the "tyranny of facts" as Eduardo quaintly put it). Warmers on the other hand seem to be terrified of real...
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Derick Moore
derickgmoore
Nov 2, 2006 10:48 pm
Thanks for the quick discussion on 'food miles'. It was an unfamiliar topic to me, and though I'm appreciative of the education, I think I will avoid all...
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bobmagi@...
bobmaginnis
Nov 2, 2006 11:07 pm
I was curious how much fuel required to ship New Zealand food to Britain. I looked for a long time to find ship fuel/ton mile, but only found this about barge...
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Richard deSousa
radesousa
Nov 2, 2006 11:22 pm
Yeah, "food miles" concept works great for Europe - a wonderful way to levy a tax on imported foods from other parts of the world - a round about way to...
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Bruce Forbes
bruce_forbes_nz
Nov 2, 2006 11:54 pm
Precisely. Perhaps the Europeans think that they will be getting back some of the carbon taxes that they will pay (mainly to Russia) under the Kyoto...
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narodaleahcim@...
pawnfart
Nov 3, 2006 12:36 am
In a message dated 11/2/2006 3:25:12 PM Pacific Standard Time, m1aport@... writes: Yeah, "food miles" concept works great for Europe - a wonderful way...
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narodaleahcim@...
pawnfart
Nov 3, 2006 12:42 am
In a message dated 11/2/2006 10:33:30 AM Pacific Standard Time, funareco@... writes: all natural. Eduardo All electrical--and forced by decarbonation....
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Eduardo Ferreyra
funarecomitos
Nov 3, 2006 3:37 am
Whatever, all natural. Thanks. BTW, SOI index is caused by increase or decrease in atmospheric pressure in different region of the Pacific, and this decrease...
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narodaleahcim@...
pawnfart
Nov 3, 2006 3:45 am
In a message dated 11/2/2006 7:38:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, funareco@... writes: Whatever, all natural. Thanks. BTW, SOI index is caused by increase...
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Bruce Forbes
bruce_forbes_nz
Nov 3, 2006 3:53 am
Thanks for an interesting paper Eduardo. I remember seeing the mighty Parana up close when I was in Puerto Piray, Misiones in 1978. Salud Bruce ...
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Eduardo Ferreyra
funarecomitos
Nov 3, 2006 4:31 am
And you too. Warm water keep less CO2 in it. Cold waters holds more. Decarbonation does not cause or affect the SOI index. Can't you or your father understand...
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Eduardo Ferreyra
funarecomitos
Nov 3, 2006 4:41 am
Bruce, If you had been there in 1983 you'd have seen one of the biggest floods ever in the Paraná-Paraguyay rivers. The flow was so great and the speed and...
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narodaleahcim@...
pawnfart
Nov 3, 2006 4:50 am
again tonight. Thousands of weather fanatics listen to this show. I was on from 20 to 40 minutes into the show. When I get a direct link I will post it but it...
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narodaleahcim@...
pawnfart
Nov 3, 2006 4:52 am
BTW, you miss the point. Even if the ocean surface warms and therefore carbonation must come out of solution, as it comes out it comes out through the surface...
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narodaleahcim@...
pawnfart
Nov 3, 2006 4:52 am
In a message dated 11/2/2006 8:32:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, funareco@... writes: And you too. Warm water keep less CO2 in it. Cold waters holds more. ...
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Ned Ford
nedfordrenew
Nov 3, 2006 4:56 am
Hi Eduardo, You are clearly not paying much attention to the basics. I'm getting tired of this, so I'll just toss off a couple. Warming over the last ...
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Eduardo Ferreyra
funarecomitos
Nov 3, 2006 6:15 am
Ned. You will be qualified to talk about the ozone issue when you show any evidence that chlorine affecting ozone molecules over ice crystals inside the hole...
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Ned Ford
nedfordrenew
Nov 3, 2006 6:41 am
Hi Bruce, Okay, if Science and Nature are corrupt, what are good sources? I can't tell if you are repeating the mantra of all naysayers, which is that the only...
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Ned Ford
nedfordrenew
Nov 3, 2006 7:00 am
Hi Derick, Bruce didn't actually explain what he means by food-miles, and although the concept is simple enough he implies that someone is trying to codify it....
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Albert Masetti
almase43@...
Nov 3, 2006 10:13 am
I'm glad Eduardo mentioned Susan Solomon et al's work in Antarctica. I'm wondering if anyone has a copy of a photograph of her posing in front of Mt. Erebus...
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narodaleahcim@...
pawnfart
Nov 3, 2006 4:32 pm
Time for some more schooling. The podcast I was on last night is up for anyone interested. I was on from 20 minutes into the show on. The show is called...
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Staff, Greg
greg77429
Nov 3, 2006 5:14 pm
" It also may be the reason that during the peak of the interglacial why there were fewer El Ninos compared to the 2 to 7 frequency we seem to see now." ...
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narodaleahcim@...
pawnfart
Nov 3, 2006 5:24 pm
In a message dated 11/3/2006 9:15:33 AM Pacific Standard Time, gstaff@... writes: " It also may be the reason that during the peak of the...
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Gregory K Staff
famstaff@...
Nov 3, 2006 6:27 pm
1) Where can I find third party evidence that El Ninos have caused "permanent magnetic changes down beneath the earth's surface." How much change? Where? 2)...
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narodaleahcim@...
pawnfart
Nov 3, 2006 8:14 pm
In a message dated 11/3/2006 10:28:39 AM Pacific Standard Time, famstaff@... writes: 1) Where can I find third party evidence that El Ninos have caused ...
