Thanks Bob. This kind of proxy statistical AGW research does not interest me. My interest is in the public policy issue of how to get stuff like this stopped...
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Ian L. McQueen
imcqueen@...
Jul 1, 2010 12:36 pm
Peter- it's a feeback mechanism: temperature rise releases CO2, rising CO2 leads to temperature rise. the difference this time is that we *jumpstarted* the...
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Peter Hartmann
captain.pithart
Jul 1, 2010 12:46 pm
brought to you by Swiss Re: http://media.swissre.com/documents/rethinking_factsheet_climate_sceptic.pdf...
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dcooper123
Jul 1, 2010 12:52 pm
Hi David, I expect that if the 'warmists' tried to make claims about specific years then you would suddenly recall the meaning of cherry picking. That's a...
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Peter Hartmann
captain.pithart
Jul 1, 2010 12:57 pm
ian, first you need to stop using arguments that are clearly at odds with physics. then, maybe, we can have a fruitful debate, instead of you throwing long...
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dcooper123
Jul 1, 2010 1:15 pm
to point out the obvious, that is exactly why long term trends are ignored here. The history of this is that, say, in the mid 80's, it was a rational position...
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Ian L. McQueen
imcqueen@...
Jul 1, 2010 2:24 pm
Peter- that is exactly the point i was trying to make: that you will believe anything you come across, without ever being skeptical to it. Get rid of the...
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Ian L. McQueen
imcqueen@...
Jul 1, 2010 2:55 pm
Peter- I looked through the Swiss Re paper. Sad, very sad. Nothing but the IPCC story. Look at the revered references: Hansen, Ammann, etc. You are free to ...
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David Wojick
dewojick
Jul 1, 2010 3:09 pm
Actually it is a nice collection of relatively detailed first level AGW counter arguments, labeled "discussion", made in response to some very simple skeptical...
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Ian L. McQueen
imcqueen@...
Jul 1, 2010 3:12 pm
Peter- I just received the following, one of the letters posted on: "EnergyBiz Insider" <service@...> It is worth reading. Ian Letters from...
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Peter Hartmann
captain.pithart
Jul 1, 2010 3:19 pm
ian, i've told you many times that i've done nothing much but reading contrarian arguments for about seven months now, *trying* to find those that falsify my ...
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Peter Hartmann
captain.pithart
Jul 1, 2010 3:31 pm
... that is exactly what i'm trying to tell you: this is human nature: to believe we know more than we do. rationalizing vs. rational. you are quite practiced...
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Peter Hartmann
captain.pithart
Jul 1, 2010 4:12 pm
ian... as with co2/temp, you're getting the causality wrong. science is not a religion or an exercise in democracy. it's an exercise in reason. people start...
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Ian L. McQueen
imcqueen@...
Jul 1, 2010 4:23 pm
Here's the most recent Ball article on climate. Worth reading, as usual, though much of the information will be familiar to diligent readers. ...
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Ian L. McQueen
imcqueen@...
Jul 1, 2010 4:33 pm
Peter- A letter of the type that I expect. I am quite amused by your proclamations like "you of course didn't bother to see the fuller picture: ...
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Peter Hartmann
captain.pithart
Jul 1, 2010 4:54 pm
Also in Ball's Fantasy World: Ball has been a Professor of Climatology at the University of Winnipeg for 28 (or 32) years, from 1988 to 1996. Er, i mean...
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Bruce Richardson
cbrtxus
Jul 1, 2010 4:57 pm
Ian, that does give a pretty good synopsis. When someone asks why we are skeptical of the AGW hypothesis (climate crisis) the response should probably be to...
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Peter Hartmann
captain.pithart
Jul 1, 2010 4:58 pm
you tell me realclimate is not trustworthy, giving no factual reason at all. i point out to you the pathologic lies of tim ball, and i'm sure you won't ...
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Peter Hartmann
captain.pithart
Jul 1, 2010 5:00 pm
bruce: much you say shows that you really put some thinking into it. i even assume you are quite honest in your beliefs. why then do you not point out the...
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Ian L. McQueen
imcqueen@...
Jul 1, 2010 5:05 pm
Peter- Do keep up the ad homs straight out of the warmist hymnbook. Tim Ball has forgotten far more about climate than you will ever know. But do keep throwing...
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Ian L. McQueen
imcqueen@...
Jul 1, 2010 5:09 pm
Peter- If you had been reading the postings at WUWT you would know how RealClimate publishes erroneous information and selects supporting postings while...
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Peter Hartmann
captain.pithart
Jul 1, 2010 5:49 pm
ian, i yesterday gave you proof that WUWT provided a hoax news (green-energy corp sent letter bomb to neolib), without ever retracting it. no you give me one...
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Bruce Richardson
cbrtxus
Jul 1, 2010 5:54 pm
I raised many points in my message to Ian that are debatable. Your only response is to attack Ian personally. So far I have not seen any "huge, staggering...
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Peter Hartmann
captain.pithart
Jul 1, 2010 5:56 pm
ian!! tim ball is a straight out liar! that's not an ad hominem. that's why you can't trust him with any of his bullshit. i mean, have you looked at *your own*...
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Peter Hartmann
captain.pithart
Jul 1, 2010 6:04 pm
bruce, he doesn't even understand the "CO2 lags temperature" fallacy. you not pointing stuff like this out is making you complicit. he doesn't know better. you...
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P.M. Pollock
petepollock
Jul 1, 2010 6:08 pm
WUWT picked up -quoted and linked to- a story from Pajamas Media which turned out to be, not a hoax, but a rather understandable response to a transaction...
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Peter Hartmann
captain.pithart
Jul 1, 2010 6:24 pm
WUWT just smeared an entire industry as potential terrorists. calzada's "sorry i was an idiot"-article in Expansion appeared on June 25. A week later, there is...
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Ian L. McQueen
imcqueen@...
Jul 1, 2010 6:40 pm
Watts IS in Australia. Perhaps we can cut him some slack. He has shown himself diligent in making corrections before. Ian ... From: "P.M. Pollock"...
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Ian L. McQueen
imcqueen@...
Jul 1, 2010 6:45 pm
Hi Walt- I had been wondering where you went after you had annoyed just about everybody with your ad hominems and non sequiturs. That was rather clever of you...
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Peter Hartmann
captain.pithart
Jul 1, 2010 6:47 pm
watts found the time to publish eighteen posts since the hoax was discovered. he seems to have clear priorities, no? peter ... watts found the time to publish...
