It is not clear to me that Lomborg has changed his mind, or not much. He always accepted IPCC AGW, but argued that Kyoto level controls were not cost...
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Peter Hartmann
captain.pithart
Sep 1, 2010 11:53 am
lomborg wants to put all the money into r&d, to make renewables competitive to fossil fuel, and only then start building renewables. had this logic been ...
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David Wojick
dewojick
Sep 1, 2010 12:10 pm
Glad you agree Peter. But if there is at present no cost effective solution, what is the alternative to growing one? That is his argument. If I believed in the...
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Robert Maginnis
bobmagi@att.net
Sep 1, 2010 1:06 pm
Peter,  Have you read the book? Please give us more info regards exactly what Lomborg wants to do with the $100 billion per year.   I doubt it is your...
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Peter Hartmann
captain.pithart
Sep 1, 2010 2:06 pm
... i've read "cool it", which is a stinking pile of garbage. so i refrained from reading more lomborg. you'll find some blog posts about lomborg's "new" view...
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David Wojick
dewojick
Sep 1, 2010 2:29 pm
Bob, I don't recall whether Lomborg considered so-called "co-benefits" or not. He was mostly looking at the trivial temperature reduction benefits from Kyoto,...
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Eugene Langschwager
langschwagere
Sep 1, 2010 3:57 pm
While that may be, Bob, the analysis probably does NOT consider the millions spent by other industry groups (e.g., the "Climate Action Partnership") lobbying...
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Eugene Langschwager
langschwagere
Sep 1, 2010 4:14 pm
This is Greenpeace's OPINION of why Moore left. It's not backed up with facts. They assert that he's making money now. That's bad? What gives Greenpeace the...
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David Wojick
dewojick
Sep 1, 2010 6:01 pm
More about the $100 billion/year "commitment" Obama made in Copenhagen. ...
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jaelaniyo
Sep 2, 2010 4:16 am
Sometimes wind turbine is not maximal working especially when the wind is blowing so weak so its can not provide maximum energy in time efficiency. The...
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SEXY BIKINI GIRLS
aishwariyaxxxd
Sep 2, 2010 11:23 am
Bikini Sprint:-Contest by Chinese Nanshan ski resort Click link to view ...
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P.M. Pollock
petepollock
Sep 2, 2010 5:37 pm
This puppy is quite interesting IMO: a gas powered device to make sure your wind turbine is always generating electricity, even with the blades disengaged....
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David Wojick
dewojick
Sep 2, 2010 6:16 pm
Energy arbitrage! Thanks Old Peter. David...
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m1aport@...
radesousa
Sep 2, 2010 9:10 pm
Diabolical!!! Rich ... From: "P.M. Pollock" <pollpete@...> To: climatechangedebate@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2010 10:37:45 AM ...
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Robert Maginnis
bobmagi@att.net
Sep 3, 2010 12:49 am
This story and the compny is full of nonsense. The  blog  http://alternativeenergyecogreen.blogspot.com  shows a picture of the World's  largest...
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Bruce Richardson
cbrtxus
Sep 3, 2010 10:30 pm
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m1aport@...
radesousa
Sep 3, 2010 11:29 pm
Well, the scaremongers claim the Arctic Sea ice extent will be worse this year proved wrong. Rich ... From: "Bruce Richardson" <cbrtxus@...> To:...
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Robert Maginnis
bobmagi@att.net
Sep 4, 2010 12:48 am
  Interesting that this chart is different:   http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/extent/AMSRE_Sea_Ice_Area.png  more Arctic ice stuff at:  ...
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Bruce Richardson
cbrtxus
Sep 4, 2010 3:30 am
Yes, I have always used sea ice extent rather than area. With area they are attempting to determine the actual amount of ice by disregarding the areas within...
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David Wojick
dewojick
Sep 4, 2010 10:33 am
The significant differences between these charts is just the tip,of the iceberg (haha) when it comes to ice measurement problems. We know that ice can pile up...
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Albert Masetti
almasetti@...
Sep 4, 2010 10:59 am
Check out Christine O'Donnell's background. Look at her extensive pro-life resume. [No wonder the Democrats and RINO's are trying to undo her.] Check out her...
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David Wojick
dewojick
Sep 4, 2010 11:06 am
Knock it off Al. No campaigning here. David On Sep 4, 2010, Albert Masetti <almasetti@...> wrote: Check out Christine O'Donnell's background. Look at her...
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Eddie Miller
temill1
Sep 4, 2010 1:21 pm
It seems some are puzzled that carbon dioxide lets heat from the sun in but does not let heat out (greenhouse effect). The answer lies in the different ...
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Bruce Richardson
cbrtxus
Sep 4, 2010 1:46 pm
David, ice extent is more a function of ocean currents and Arctic weather than global warming over the short term, as best I understand it. That's partly for...
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Swayseeker
temill1
Sep 4, 2010 1:56 pm
It is well known that water vapour and carbon dioxide are greenhouse gases. Where there is little water vapour (desert, etc) there are cold nights because warm...
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David Wojick
dewojick
Sep 4, 2010 2:04 pm
Because of negative feedbacks in the climate system it is by no means certain that simply increasing CO2 will produce warming. There have been long periods,...
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Swayseeker
temill1
Sep 4, 2010 2:12 pm
Well there are a lot of factors - how shiny the see is and its reflection abilities (perhaps plankton near surface, etc). But under any specific conditions if...
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David Wojick
dewojick
Sep 4, 2010 2:28 pm
You are merely pointing to the greenhouse effect, which is the starting point for the climate debate, not the end point. First of all, no heat is "kept in" or...
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Eddie Miller
temill1
Sep 4, 2010 2:34 pm
Hullo This is Swayseeker. However complicated the conditions are, if there is more carbon dioxide under those conditions the lower frequency radiation being...
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Robert Maginnis
bobmagi@att.net
Sep 4, 2010 2:39 pm
 David,  Ice volume is indeed the better measuring stick, and it is going down too. From New Scientist:    ...
