Not sure I see the point or perspective of these numbers, but all the IPCC reports together probably add up to several million words. Everything written in the...
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Roger Dewhurst
dewhurst@...
Sep 1, 2011 10:59 am
The more valuable the idea the fewer the number of words needed to express it....
Nonsense. "Humans cause global warming" is just 4 words. So what? David On Sep 1, 2011, Roger Dewhurst <dewhurst@...> wrote: The more valuable the idea...
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Peter Davies
peterdavies@...
Sep 1, 2011 1:20 pm
David LOL That hypothesis has just been falsified! Peter Davies ... From: David Wojick To: climatechangedebate@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 01,...
Exactly. Brevity is no measure of truth. David ... Exactly. Brevity is no measure of truth. David At 09:20 AM 9/1/2011, you wrote:  David LOL That...
And Europe is the best damned place to eat cabbages! From: David Wojick <dwojick@...> To: climatechangedebate@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September...
"We know that the stratosphere is cooler than before, so the radiation will emit to outer space at an even colder high atmopshere, but after the polar ice is...
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Ian L. McQueen
imcqueen@...
Sep 1, 2011 2:20 pm
"scientific orts".*\ Well done!! I've always wanted to find a use for that word since I learned it in grade school Shakespeare.* Ian *Watch for a mad dash for...
Ian, I want to know what prestigious grade school you went to. You may not be aware but in the US, grade school is many times used colloquially for elementary...
Bryce, While I should express the idea better, you haven't misinterpreted my logic. I don't claim to be expert on this matter and could be wrong. I disagree...
Thanks Bob. Â While I am not following/convinced of these arguments, it still remains necessary to prove empirically that there is less 15 micron radiation...
Between the TOA and top of troposphere is very little water. So the emitting substances would be air & CO2 and other lesser gases. Water vapor in the...
Outer space sees whatever radiation penetrates the TOA, from whatever source, altitude, and temperature. Calvin. From: climatechangedebate@yahoogroups.com...
Brian,  In answer to your "Where is the empirical data?"  A quote from the following link below my note to Calvin  "....Thus we have empirical evidence...
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Bryce Johnson
brycenuc@...
Sep 1, 2011 8:12 pm
Bob: What what outer space "sees" is any IR originating from within the atmosphere or from the earth's surface. That from the earth's surface has missed its...
Brian…. I am glad to see some empirical data. I have found it hard to come by. If you take the area under the curve and average it over the span 700 to 1400...
Bryce, Â I wish you would respond to my latest posts, so that we could have all the arguments in one thread. Â You say "The amount of IR heat entering from...
Also, I'm looking at the 600-700 band in particular, for the obvious reason.  Beers law says that the CO2 absorption of IR as a function of concentration...
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Bryce Johnson
brycenuc@...
Sep 1, 2011 9:40 pm
Bob: See italicized comments below. ... Bob: See italicized comments below. On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Robert Maginnis < bobmagi@... > wrote: ...
I'm getting a bit confused by this "the atmosphere warms up" vs. "the atmosphere doesn't warm up", as well as "AGW causes the upper atmosphere to cool" talk. ...
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Bryce Johnson
brycenuc@...
Sep 1, 2011 10:12 pm
Bob: I forgot to respont to your second incorrect denial. See below. ... *In contrast to your responses, mine at least contain reason for my disagreement.* ...
If you snip, no reply: Â Bob ... From: Bryce Johnson <brycenuc@...> Subject: Re: [climatechangedebate] To Bryce, was To B and B re TOA emissions, was...
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Bryce Johnson
brycenuc@...
Sep 1, 2011 10:31 pm
OK, that's reasonable. I apologize and will provide a polit reply.. Bryce ... OK, that's reasonable. I apologize and will provide a polit reply.. Bryce ...
Someone at my work shared this, with the comment: We appear to be headed for a new record low in arctic ice mass this year (about 2.5 weeks to go). The...
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Bryce Johnson
brycenuc@...
Sep 1, 2011 10:48 pm
Bob: Radiation that goes directly from the earth's surface to outer space cannot have had an interaction within the atmosphere. Without such an interaction ...
A lot of "oh no!" in this, but nontheless it happened:  Looking for some information on Greenland's ice shelf, I come across this which actually sounds...
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Ian L. McQueen
imcqueen@...
Sep 2, 2011 2:26 am
Dick- I have to check the exact grades to confirm the names. The first grades are "primary", but I have to check how high they go. But I remember "ort" from...
