I've been too busy to participate lately, but here is something interesting:  Arctic Sea Ice Hockey Stick: Melt Unprecedented in Last 1,450 years Posted...
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famstaff@...
Dec 1, 2011 4:32 pm
Another way to interpret the graph would be to say: "Thus it can be shown that proxies are unreliable." There are no good data before satellite measurements...
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brian_questioning
brian_questi...
Dec 1, 2011 7:57 pm
Great. Now we just have to keep James Hansen away from the data. Brian...
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C. Bruce Richardson Jr.
cbrjr@...
Dec 1, 2011 11:10 pm
Bob, why did they stop the proxy data around 1850 and graft instrumental data on to the end? I don't see how they could seriously think that crudely grafting...
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Robert Maginnis
bobmagi@att.net
Dec 2, 2011 1:11 pm
Bruce,  It is yet another vindication of Mann, even if you want to claim the post 1980 warming isn't anthropogenic. I would have appreciated the link for...
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Dick Kahle
jazznzzaj
Dec 2, 2011 2:45 pm
Bob, I don't have access to Nature. Poor explanation in "climate skeptics." Ice minimum during LIA only raises questions. Need more info. Dick ... Bob, I don't...
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C. Bruce Richardson Jr.
cbrtxus
Dec 2, 2011 6:23 pm
Bob, they grafted modern data on to the end of proxy data which is what Mann did. Low and behold they gat a hockey stick. Doing the same dubious thing that...
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Robert Maginnis
bobmagi@att.net
Dec 3, 2011 3:12 am
Bruce, Â You say 'they grafted modern data on to the end of proxy data,' Â Â Â and I don't know what you expect them to do, but your land glacier data...
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Staff Family
famstaff@...
Dec 3, 2011 3:28 am
Robert, I for one would expect them to continue with the proxy data - it's still there after all - and see where the graph goes all the way to the present...
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C. Bruce Richardson Jr.
cbrtxus
Dec 3, 2011 4:24 am
Bob, if they are going to use proxy for some of it, they should use it for all of it. They can take tree rings from modern trees. They can examine modern...
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Robert Maginnis
bobmagi@att.net
Dec 3, 2011 2:10 pm
Bruce,  You can get some info about their proxies by clicking on the graphs and map at  ...
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David Wojick
dewojick
Dec 3, 2011 2:38 pm
Please! <[ : > )...
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C. Bruce Richardson Jr.
cbrtxus
Dec 3, 2011 4:34 pm
David, if we are still discussing Bob's original posting and the chart that it contained, it is still useful to have it at the bottom rather than have to pull...
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David Wojick
dewojick
Dec 3, 2011 6:46 pm
The problem is with the digest, which most members get. It is a single long email and it is hard to find the new messages when they are among all the old stuff...
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C. Bruce Richardson Jr.
cbrtxus
Dec 3, 2011 7:59 pm
Bob, my problem was with splicing modern instrumental data on to the end of proxy data. They should have just plotted the proxy data all the way across and...
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Robert Maginnis
bobmagi@att.net
Dec 4, 2011 3:17 pm
2011: world’s 10th warmest year, warmest year with La Niña event, lowest Arctic sea ice volume 2011: world’s 10th warmest year, warmest year with La Niña...
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Robert Maginnis
bobmagi@att.net
Dec 4, 2011 4:11 pm
   In Praise of Dirty Energy: There Are Worse Things Than Pollution and We Have Them Friday ~ December 2nd, 2011 in Economics | by Karl Smith This is...
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Mark
larkus626
Dec 4, 2011 7:00 pm
David, If I may describe my experience - I've been a long-time member (mostly lurker) and have always had the digest sent to me. The digest comes with handy...
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David Wojick
dewojick
Dec 4, 2011 7:17 pm
Thanks Mark! I have never actually seen the digest so my concerns may be out of date. David ... Thanks Mark! I have never actually seen the digest so my...
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David Wojick
dewojick
Dec 4, 2011 7:22 pm
New numbers. David ... New numbers. David From: "Glen Peters" <glen.peters@...> To: "Climate Change Info Mailing List" <climate-l@...> ...
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Slamet Tukino
slamettukino
Dec 5, 2011 11:56 am
The Aptera 2e was a bold proposal to save fuel and even electricity. The strange electric car with futuristic look and weight of just 380kg is history. ...
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Robert Maginnis
bobmagi@att.net
Dec 5, 2011 12:18 pm
  McKitrick's quote mining Category: McKitrick Posted on: November 29, 2011 11:21 AM, by Tim Lambert Deep Climate dissects Ross McKitrick's deceptive...
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C. Bruce Richardson Jr.
cbrtxus
Dec 5, 2011 3:45 pm
Bob, have you actually looked through some of the emails? I can provide a link to the originals. Or better yet, here is a site that will let you search the...
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William Gilbert
wgilbert...
Dec 5, 2011 7:49 pm
Bob, With respect to Deltoid's accusation of McKitick's incompetence in the last paragraph (and link), the only incompetence that I see is on the part of ...
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charles messina
barringer1961
Dec 5, 2011 8:07 pm
Bob, What say you? Charlie On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 10:45 AM, C. Bruce Richardson Jr. ... Bob, What say you? Charlie On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 10:45 AM, C. Bruce...
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brian_questioning
brian_questi...
Dec 6, 2011 2:53 pm
AGW advocates are more inclined to attack their skeptics than to improve their science. Brian...
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C. Bruce Richardson Jr.
cbrjr@...
Dec 6, 2011 3:19 pm
We are likely to see more propaganda of this sort in the run-up to Durbin. Propaganda isn’t necessarily false. Probably the most effective is where they are...
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Brian K
brian_questi...
Dec 6, 2011 3:47 pm
Thanks for the illustrative graphs, once again, Bruce.  I read the original article. What an incredible pile of junk:  "The 2002-2011 period equals...
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C. Bruce Richardson Jr.
cbrjr@...
Dec 6, 2011 4:16 pm
Brian, AGW crisis skeptics have attacked personally at times too. I'm guilty of that. It is difficult not to respond in kind to the "science of personal ...
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Bryce Johnson
brycenuc@...
Dec 6, 2011 5:35 pm
Bruce: I appreciate your well-kept data base that puts the proper perspective on AGW's methods of presenting their data ("10th warmest year on record", etc)....
