----- Original Message -----

From: David Banks

To: clivia-enthusiast@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 5:30 AM

Subject: [clivia] Gerrit's Green Throat Yellow (pic.10)

 

Lovely flowers Gerrit,

Can you tell us more about the Green Throated Yellow (G1 or G2?) in your image #10 (2535)?

Regards,

David Banks

PS. Some nice clivias for sale on the Australian eBay site at present, with plants from Harry in WA and myself. Worth a look!...

David Banks

Hills District Orchids

Website: www.hillsdistrictorchids.com

Editor - Australian Orchid Review

39 Carole Street, Seven Hills NSW 2147

02 9674-4720 or 0412-123036

Email: david@hillsdistrictorchids.com

From: clivia-enthusiast@yahoogroups.com [mailto:clivia-enthusiast@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gerrit van Wyk
Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2009 1:22 PM
To: clivia-enthusiast@yahoogroups.com
Subject: {Disarmed} [clivia] More 2009 season flowers

 

More of the past seasons flowers.

Gerrit van Wyk.

----- Original Message -----

From: MALCOLM R SHRIMPLIN

To: Clivia Chat Group

Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 8:37 PM

Subject: [clivia] NACS Q4 2009 Newsletter is Now Available at The NACS Website

 

All,

The Q4 NACS newsletter is available for download from our website.  It's size is a very reasonable 2.4MB.

Here's the link:

http://www.northamericancliviasociety.org/publications.php

The paper copy will be mailed to all NACS members on Saturday, November 21 from Los Angeles.

The deadline for submissions for the Q1 2010 newsletter is January 31.  The newsletter will mail in mid-February and also be available online at that time.  We anticipate this newsletter will focus on the annual show on March 20/21 at The Huntington, as well as spring regional enthusiast meetings.  We'll also provide information about the March 13/14 show at Longwood Gardens.

Wishing you a happy holiday season,

 

Malcolm R. Shrimplin,
NACS Director & Clivia Quarterly Editor

Following my picture of Mirabilis in the rain, I now attach one to show
it in its glory when the sun comes out.  I see the temperature there has
changed from a wet 19C last week to a sunny 40C now.  I think I prefer
the former.
Ian
England

Another flower when the sun came out.  For the record, we found one with
74 flowers on the head.  A record ?
Ian
England - where it is the wettest and windiest for centuries.

Hi Cobus

       I found the photos see attachment.Hope this helps.
       Have you asked Gerrit van Wyk he might know a bit more about Oom Gert's
plants.

       The first photo is at Oom Gert's house
       The second  taken at the 2002 Cape Clivia Show
       And the third is also at Oom Gert's house


       He really liked this plant.He asked Nakamura about the plant when he was
in Cape Town but the language barrier was a problem.Al he could get is that is
was from Vico background not sure how one seed was orange and the rest
yellow????

       Het jy saad van die Vico oranje?????

       Groete
       Sean

       --- On Tue, 11/17/09, Cobus <cobus@...> wrote:


         From: Cobus <cobus@...>
         Subject: Re: [clivia] Vico Orange
         To: clivia-enthusiast@yahoogroups.com
         Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 9:26 AM



         
         Hallo Sean
         Yes this might indeed be the one you speak of. I would love to see the
photos you have.
         Cobus Greeff
         Strand
         South Africa
         083 234 6354
         cobus@gbsec. co.za
           ----- Original Message -----
           From: sean none
           To: clivia-enthusiast@ yahoogroups. com
           Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 12:12 PM
           Subject: [clivia] Vico Orange



                 Hi Cobus
                 If this is the same Vico Orange Oom Gert once had it was split
for yellow.
                 He bought seed from Nakamura Vico Yellow(10 seed) 9 had green
bases and flowered yellow and one had a pigmented base and flowered Orange.
                 It suckers quite freely.

                 I might have a photo of the Vico Orange Oom Gert had (I will
have a look)

                 Cheers
                 Sean

                 --- On Sun, 11/15/09, Cobus <cobus@gbsec. co.za> wrote:


                   From: Cobus <cobus@gbsec. co.za>
                   Subject: [clivia] Vico Orange
                   To: clivia-enthusiast@ yahoogroups. com
                   Date: Sunday, November 15, 2009, 12:35 PM



                   This is a plant I obtained from late Gert Wiese. There are so
many stories going around. According to what I was told Gert got this plant from
Mr Nakamura when he visited South Africa. This is a big flower and there was one
multi petal flower for the first time this year. When selfed it produces a
percentage of unpigmented seedlings.
                   Best regards
                   Cobus
                   Strand
                   South Africa
                   Your files are attached and ready to send with this message.

Chris

As requested.  We counted three times.

Ian
England

----- Original Message -----

From: sean none

To: clivia-enthusiast@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 2:35 PM

Subject: [clivia] Vico Orange

 

Hi Cobus

I found the photos see attachment.Hope this helps.
Have you asked Gerrit van Wyk he might know a bit more about Oom Gert's plants.

The first photo is at Oom Gert's house
The second taken at the 2002 Cape Clivia Show
And the third is also at Oom Gert's house

He really liked this plant.He asked Nakamura about the plant when he was in Cape Town but the language barrier was a problem.Al he could get is that is was from Vico background not sure how one seed was orange and the rest yellow????

Het jy saad van die Vico oranje?????

Groete
Sean

--- On Tue, 11/17/09, Cobus <cobus@gbsec.co.za> wrote:

From: Cobus <cobus@gbsec.co.za>
Subject: Re: [clivia] Vico Orange
To: clivia-enthusiast@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 9:26 AM


Hallo Sean
Yes this might indeed be the one you speak of. I would love to see the photos you have.
Cobus Greeff
Strand
South Africa
083 234 6354
cobus@gbsec. co.za
----- Original Message -----
From: sean none
To: clivia-enthusiast@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 12:12 PM
Subject: [clivia] Vico Orange

Hi Cobus
If this is the same Vico Orange Oom Gert once had it was split for yellow.
He bought seed from Nakamura Vico Yellow(10 seed) 9 had green bases and flowered yellow and one had a pigmented base and flowered Orange.
It suckers quite freely.

I might have a photo of the Vico Orange Oom Gert had (I will have a look)

Cheers
Sean

--- On Sun, 11/15/09, Cobus <cobus@gbsec. co.za> wrote:

From: Cobus <cobus@gbsec. co.za>
Subject: [clivia] Vico Orange
To: clivia-enthusiast@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, November 15, 2009, 12:35 PM

This is a plant I obtained from late Gert Wiese. There are so many stories going around. According to what I was told Gert got this plant from Mr Nakamura when he visited South Africa. This is a big flower and there was one multi petal flower for the first time this year. When selfed it produces a percentage of unpigmented seedlings.
Best regards
Cobus
Strand
South Africa
Your files are attached and ready to send with this message.

Chris Ong wrote "  Just wondering if seeds from this plant will be
available and from who. Did you at least get some pollen? I would not be
surprise if, as the saying goes, someone did not "milk it for every
drop" it can give."



Chris

No, No - and - No !

Ian


England

This isn't a direct Nakamura hybrid but still from his breeding. This comes from
the "Nakamura: my many best breeding mix" that was sold by Ken Farger several
years ago as SO293. There have been many wonderful plants from this mix. All
with very prominent Vico features. I'm very happy to have this plant. I've used
it for breeding a lot of things this year. Right now the pollen is put on to
gardenii x caulescens. Maybe I'll get some incredible interspecifics like
Nakamura has made. Time will tell.

John Ingram in Camarillo, CA, between Santa Barbara and L.A.
www.floralarchitecture.com "Your Clivia Connection"
New number >>> 805.914.9505 (cell, west coast time, please call accordingly.
Thank you)

Dear Group
I was fortunate enough to be included in this group. I must support Ian here as
no pollen was to be had. In Oorlogskloof which is a conservation area none could
be collected. On the farm where it was a maybe, it rained so much that it was
totally impossible.
The photo attached is of the Master at work
Regards
Piet Theron



----- Original Message -----
   From: Ian Coates
   To: clivia-enthusiast@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 6:57 PM
   Subject: Re: [clivia] MIRABILIS again



   Chris

   As requested. We counted three times.




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----- Original Message -----

From: Chris Ong

To: clivia-enthusiast@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 3:08 PM

Subject: Re: [clivia] Vico Orange

I understand that Bill Morris has a plant also namesd as "Vico Orange" and it is a split for orange and have fairly large flowers. I have an offshoot from this plant. I am wondering where did this plant originate from. More information on this particular plant will be much appreciated. Kind Regards, Chris Ong, NSW, Australia --- On Mon, 23/11/09, sean none <cliviasforafrica@...> wrote: From: sean none <cliviasforafrica@...> Subject: [clivia] Vico Orange To: clivia-enthusiast@yahoogroups.com Received: Monday, 23 November, 2009, 8:43 PM   Hi Helen Thank you for the information.   Cheers Sean --- On Sun, 11/22/09, Helen Marriott <hmarriott@ozemail. com.au> wrote: From: Helen Marriott <hmarriott@ozemail. com.au> Subject: RE: [clivia] Vico Orange To: clivia-enthusiast@ yahoogroups. com Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 11:53 PM   Following from my previous mail, the first photo here (#100) is from seed of (orange x yellow) x ‘Vico Yellow’ x best yellow, and has flowered orange.  I don’t have the background breeding of the plant in the second photo, but it is described by Mr Nakamura as ‘Vico Yellow’ hybrid orange.  Both are fine flowers.   Helen Marriott, Melbourne.    -----Original Message----- From: clivia-enthusiast@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:clivia- enthusiast@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of sean none Sent: Sunday, 22 November 2009 11:36 PM To: clivia-enthusiast@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [clivia] Vico Orange   Hi Cobus I found the photos see attachment.Hope this helps. Have you asked Gerrit van Wyk he might know a bit more about Oom Gert's plants. The first photo is at Oom Gert's house The second taken at the 2002 Cape Clivia Show And the third is also at Oom Gert's house He really liked this plant.He asked Nakamura about the plant when he was in Cape Town but the language barrier was a problem.Al he could get is that is was from Vico background not sure how one seed was orange and the rest yellow???? Het jy saad van die Vico oranje????? Groete Sean --- On Tue, 11/17/09, Cobus <cobus@gbsec. co.za> wrote: From: Cobus <cobus@gbsec. co.za> Subject: Re: [clivia] Vico Orange To: clivia-enthusiast@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 9:26 AM  Hallo Sean Yes this might indeed be the one you speak of. I would love to see the photos you have. Cobus Greeff Strand South Africa 083 234 6354 cobus@gbsec. co.za ----- Original Message ----- From: sean none To: clivia-enthusiast@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 12:12 PM Subject: [clivia] Vico Orange Hi Cobus If this is the same Vico Orange Oom Gert once had it was split for yellow. He bought seed from Nakamura Vico Yellow(10 seed) 9 had green bases and flowered yellow and one had a pigmented base and flowered Orange. It suckers quite freely. I might have a photo of the Vico Orange Oom Gert had (I will have a look) Cheers Sean --- On Sun, 11/15/09, Cobus <cobus@gbsec. co.za> wrote: From: Cobus <cobus@gbsec. co.za> Subject: [clivia] Vico Orange To: clivia-enthusiast@ yahoogroups. com Date: Sunday, November 15, 2009, 12:35 PM This is a plant I obtained from late Gert Wiese. There are so many stories going around. According to what I was told Gert got this plant from Mr Nakamura when he visited South Africa. This is a big flower and there was one multi petal flower for the first time this year. When selfed it produces a percentage of unpigmented seedlings. Best regards Cobus Strand South Africa Your files are attached and ready to send with this message.

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----- Original Message -----

From: Chris Ong

To: clivia-enthusiast@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 9:10 PM

Subject: Re: [clivia] MIRABILIS again

 

John, With due respect, I think you miss the point here. We are talking about special germplasm and/or genetic materials. Don't you think that a Superior miniata x mirabilis with 74 flowers to the spike is better than just miniata x mirabilis? It could mean a the difference between a beautiful progeny with 20, 40 or 60 flowers. What if a "blue" mirabilis or miniata is found? The furure possibility and end results of species conservation as well as hybrid possibilities into the future could be vastly different based on the action taken or non-action. I understand this is all speculation but every possibility for us in life today is due to decisions taken (or inaction) by those before us. Kind Regards, ChrisOng --- On Wed, 25/11/09, John van der Linde <vandal@iafrica.com> wrote: From: John van der Linde <vandal@iafrica.com> Subject: Re: [clivia] MIRABILIS again To: clivia-enthusiast@yahoogroups.com Received: Wednesday, 25 November, 2009, 7:27 PM   Hi Chris and all, Why worry about mirabilis pollen. Why not just save time and buy seeds from a miniata x mirabilis cross? There should be more of these about as the years go by. Watch the usual seed lists that come up on this egroup. John, in CT

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