Ashok this is more likely level 1 company with "flavor of the day management" The trouble i have with your cartoon and comment is that people will pass it...

Ashok, Interesting point of view. I work two programs with CMMI ML 5. It is extremely rare to have a Company have a ML5 appraisal. ML5 is usually reserved for...

Glen,   Probably CMMI ML5 firms are large ones in order to have individual programs/product lines to be appraised.   What about small software consulting...

Jerry, The conjecture that software is a highly immature discipline that cannot be optimized is just that conjecture. You seem to be making conjecture about...

Ditto - I agree with Glen I would ask Jerry the basis for his statements - and background - for instance have you taken the Introduction to CMMI, have you been...

Glen,   It is well known and fact(not conjecture) that software engineering is an immature discipline.�� Whether an immature discipline can be optimized is...

Jerry, Software Engineering is not immature - the basic fundamentale were laid down in the 60s-80s and codified in whe work Watts Humphrey led at the SEI,...

It seems a bit of a moot point - the CMMI is not an "optimization" model as Jerry seems to believe, but a "maturity" model - and by definition seeks to make...

Jeff,   We were talking about CMMI level 5 that is about optimization not CMMI model.   Precise or imprecise is boolean logic...either scientific (objective)...

Jerry, You off base here. All engineering disciplines have “best practices.” A simple Google of “civil engineering best practices” will turn up dozens...

Edward   See my blog why software engineering is immature.   http://ucsoft.blog.com/2009/04/01/why-software-engineering-is-still-in-its-infancy/   Jerry ......

You are confusing engineering and pseudoscience, and your blog is like your comments in the discussion board - assertions with no data and no evidence of...

Jerry, Oh, I misunderstood.  I thought you were talking about CMMI when you said ML5.  Which model were you referring to? Can't wait for your paper to come...

Glen,   Real time control systems are electrical systems hence belong to electrical engineering which is mature and can be optimized. So agree here.   CMMI...

Jerry, We may not be on the same page, so let me make a comment.. Real time controls systems is a specialty of mine in the past. RT control systems are...

Jerry/Glen, It seems to me that electrical engineering "benefits" over software engineering in a number of ways. First, as Jerry contends, it has "been around...

I am wondering if anyone else has experienced this behavior associated with this email thread on this discussion group. For the first time since joining this...

Henry, Sometime our email attaches the logo to the signature block. This is a JPEG and might be seen as a virus Glen Alleman From:...

Henry, a lot of the messages in this thread have been eliminated by something inbetween me and the mailing list -- presumably hotmail's filters. I see...

Pat Welcome to Britain. I hope you enjoy your visit. It's slightly ironic that in a posting about accuracy and precision you move Warwick Castle 100 miles to...

I would have called the content of the thread a "healthy debate between professionals" and not malicious ;-) And no, Sophos AV didn't have a problem with it. ...

Andrew, If Americans are stupid enough to move the London Bridge to Arizona, then we're certainly ignorant enough to move Warwick Castle to London! OK, I...