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Re: [colormodeling] Re: Some DNC and color modeling Q

Another example?

Take for instance a message in your email system. How would you caracterize it? As an MI? Humm, I can argue that it can be a Thing if the transaction "Send" or "Receive" (puts a date on the message) is decoupled from the Message. Or you can argue that is an MI as the information regarding the transaction "Send" does not need to be decoupled.

In this case I would choose the color Green (Thing) as the transactions are quite "simple", there is a one to one relationship between message and the transactions, a the message can actually exist without the transactions.

Nuno





On 2/8/07, Nuno Lopes <nbplopes@...> wrote:
There are certain objects in the world that act as containers that are disposed once used. In a system this containers have a reference. In this cases usually there is a a one to one relationship between the container (place) the object it contains (thing with its own reference) and is stamped with the date it was used (MI). In such cases one need to choose which color better caracterizes the concept as it can have any color.

It happens all the time if you think about. In the example above I would choose a Green Color as the I would concider the concept as a packaged product with composite key (ref of the container + ref of tht thing it contains).

A less abstract example? Take for instance you body, is a place for human organs and lives for a period of time.

Nuno



On 2/2/07, michal_matula <michal_matula@...> wrote:

Hi Nuno,

thanks for the examples. I think it makes things clearer.
What I am not sure about is - did you say that the same class can be
of different "colors" in the same system? How would you cope with
that if you followed the recommendations and model using colored
sticky-notes? :-)
I can understand that what is for one MI a "Place" may be a "Thing"
for other MI (still keeping the green color though) but it is hard
for me to see the same class acting as a Place and MI for instance.

Thanks again anyway.

Regards

Michal

--- In colormodeling@yahoogroups.com, "Nuno Lopes" <nbplopes@...>
wrote:
>
> "Could you please post an example of those three for let's
say "sendE-
> Mail" MI class?
> I can imagine that "Message" could be a thing here, "DeliverTo"
> could be a party....what is the place here?"
>
> Example:
>
> 1) First Part
> [Person] - Comprises the personal name and other personal
identification
> [Place] - Information regarding where the person is (Office, Home,
etc)
> [MI] - Contact Information (It's an MI as contact information can
change
> along time and you want to track it)
>
> 2) Second Part
> [Role] - Email Address (Role of Contact Information in an Message
> transaction, The MI becomes a Place)
> [Role] - Sender (The Role of a Person in a Message Transaction)
> [Role] - Receiver (The Role of in Message transaction)
> [MI] - Message (The Subject)
> [Role] - Message Body.
> [Thing] - Peace of Text
>
>





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Hi everyone! As it seems there is still some activity here I'd like to post some (probably dumb :-) ) questions here as I am quite new to both modeling and...
Michal Matula
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It looks like nobody has responded to this yet, so I'll take a crack at it. What I've witnessed is that a missing DNC object tends to imply a missing or future...
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Hello Jason, ... crack at it. ... missing or ... can't see ... asked to ... on a ... pretty ... change ... thanks for your reply. From what you say I...
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No it is not necessary that the final model has the three legs, The DNC is an archetype type of pattern, as such it simply helps the modeller in reasoning over...
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"Could you please post an example of those three for let's say "sendE- Mail" MI class? I can imagine that "Message" could be a thing here, "DeliverTo" could be...
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Hi Nuno, thanks for the examples. I think it makes things clearer. What I am not sure about is - did you say that the same class can be of different "colors"...
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There are certain objects in the world that act as containers that are disposed once used. In a system this containers have a reference. In this cases usually...
Nuno Lopes
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Another example? Take for instance a message in your email system. How would you caracterize it? As an MI? Humm, I can argue that it can be a Thing if the...
Nuno Lopes
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That's a pretty fertile example there. I'd like to continue along this line of thought. Think about how you'd implement a threaded email client, with folders....
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" All of a sudden an email starts to decompose into a group of objects, including several PPTs and a MI." This is a fertile example indeed and I'll live you...
Nuno Lopes
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Hello, ... human ... In this case I would probably model Body as a place Organ as a thing and Life as a MI (a contract between my body and its organs to work ...
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Glad to help, and thank you for reminding me some pleasent old discussions I've had with some emazing people. As nothing is exactly black and white, also...
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