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Re: A word of caution to P1 observers

Before this degenerates into an "Yes it is, No it isn't" situation,
let me offer something of a guide to the visibility of comet-like
objects in the daytime, based on about half a dozen years of
experimention on my part (and the basis for my near-sun article that
appeared in the ICQ many years ago).

At magnitude -1.5 : When the precise position is known, objects of
this brightness are just visible with 80mm aperture, even within 5
degrees of the Sun. They can be more easily detected with telescopes
but are not "obvious".

At magnitude -2.0 : Visible with larger, mounted binoculars, while
easy with a modest telescope, even within 5 degrees of the Sun.

At magnitude -2.5 : Easily seen in ordinary binoculars if mounted.
Dramatically obvious with a modest telescope. Likely to show hints of
the tail.

At magnitude -3.0 : With ordinary binoculars, amazingly bright and
almost equally as well seen as Venus in the daytime. Can simply be
swept up with handheld 50mm binoculars and will likely show a short
or rudimentary tail (Comet West in '76). Also can be detected with
the unaided eye shortly before sunset (at the same time being very
obvious in binoculars, complete with tail). Modest telescopes show
considerable structure and significant tail with the Sun well above
the horizon.

At magnitude -4.0 : With careful attention, visible with the unaided
eye throughout the day if more than 5 degrees from the Sun.
Telescopes shows an almost uncomfortable degree of brightness (like
that of Venus) to the nuclear region. The comet is visible in
ordinary binoculars virtually right up to the Sun's limb.

To me, the descriptions reported so far seem to equate to what I've
personally seen with regard to objects of around -2.0 . Most
unfortunately, it is cloudy at my location and I am unable to attempt
any confirmatory observations myself.

JBortle




Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:30 pm

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... Maik, I still have not seen the comet, though I have come so close [I have been in Seattle, Washington, USA for the American Astronomical Society meeting...
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Hi Brian, ... well, bad luck this morning: When I started from home at 5 a.m. the sky cleared but I had to be at 9 a.m. at the place of the ISO meeting (where ...
Maik Meyer
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Maik, Can't you arrange some urgent business in Australia? Regards, Jim Gifford. _____ From: comets-ml@yahoogroups.com [mailto:comets-ml@yahoogroups.com] On ...
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Having just looked through recently reported magnitudes for C/2006 P1 appearing on the ICQ website and elsewhere, I think a word of caution is in order. The...
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Jan 10, 2007
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Hi Jon. I can to say that yesterday I saw the comet clearly to naked eyes despite weather condition was not good since the two previous evenings. Seem really...
Toni Scarmato
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Dear John, I have to agree with Toni here: the fact that several observers are currently reporting the obvious visibility of this comet in broad daylight,...
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Jan 10, 2007
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There is indeed always that possibility....also there are many, many experienced observers reporting and imaging brightness increases in this comet. John 's...
P. Clay Sherrod
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Jan 10, 2007
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Before this degenerates into an "Yes it is, No it isn't" situation, let me offer something of a guide to the visibility of comet-like objects in the daytime,...
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Jan 10, 2007
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... Useful guidelines. I've just come in from searching for P1 with a set of "Oberwerk-style" 45 degree 25x100 binoculars, alt-az tripod-mounted, without...
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... John, the problem here is that the nice table you posted is based solely on visual impressions, i.e. very subjective, according to experience of the...
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... Possible science aside, why do we need more than that? Greg -- Greg Crinklaw Astronomical Software Developer Cloudcroft, New Mexico, USA (33N, 106W, 2700m)...
Greg Crinklaw
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... Hi Greg, no problem from me: I was not the one blaming against the data scatter of current visual observations... Cheers, Giovanni ... Passa a Infostrada....
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Amen.....just as it has been for decades. There are going to be errors in reports and scattering of estimates. Clay ... Dr. P. Clay Sherrod Arkansas Sky...
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Jim, ... I wish I could! But since the company I work for has an agent in Australia I guess the prospects are not so good.. ;) Well, at least I had Hyakutake...
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