Search the web
Sign In
New User? Sign Up
comis · Multizone Infiltration Modelling
? Already a member? Sign in to Yahoo!

Yahoo! Groups Tips

Did you know...
Want to share photos of your group with the world? Add a group photo to Flickr.

Best of Y! Groups

   Check them out and nominate your group.
Having problems with message search? Fill out this form to ensure your group is one of the first to be migrated to the new message search system.

Messages

  Messages Help
Advanced
Basic practical information about COMIS   Message List  
Reply | Forward Message #798 of 862 |
RE: [comis] Basic practical information about COMIS

Hi Marcello,

 

 

I’m not the top expert for the physics part of COMIS, so maybe someone else wants to add some information, but here is what I know:

 

1)      Zoning will be different most of the time actually. For example, you will often times model ventilation boxes, ductwork and such. For this you will need additional air nodes. You may also want a more detailed air flow model than for the thermal side, or vice versa (a classical example are double facades, see http://software.cstb.fr/IISIbat/empa/ZTL_DF/ZTL_DF.HTM
)

2)      These are the standard only the most often used connections. You may want to use other variables from COMIS, based on the goal of your studies. The list of available output variables is in the ‘More’ button for ‘output indices …’ of type 157.

3)      One source is AIVC ; a part of AIVC data is contained in the Simulation Studio, under Aivc (tree on the right side when a COMIS project (*.cpf) is active). You can also get data from http://www.aivc.org/  A big classical are Technotes 44 and of course 29. In France, there is the very usefull AICVF’s “Recueil des demarches et formules du Guide n° 2” ( http://www.aicvf.com/ ). “Ventilation of Buildings” by Hazim Awbi is a good starting point, too.

4)      Any opening, fan, etc. can have a schedule or be driven by a TRNSYS output variable or equation. To use this feature, have to modify the ‘Actual value’ of the component: Set the “Number of links with schedules” (parameter #2 of type 157) to the number of elements you want to change dynamically. An additional input is added to type 157 for each such value (called 'actual value' in the COMIS manual). They are defined in the order of links in the COMIS Input File (CIF) under &-NET-LINKS.

 

HTH,

 

Werner

 

 


De : comis@yahoogroups.com [mailto:comis@yahoogroups.com] De la part de Marcello
Envoyé : lundi 4 février 2008 15:23
À : comis@yahoogroups.com
Objet : [comis] Basic practical information about COMIS

 

Dear COMIS users,

I am a beginner user of energy and airflow simulation programs. I
studied theoretically how the different models works (in particular
TRNSYS and COMIS), as I am phD student since October. I finally
decided that it is the moment to pass to the practice.

Before to begin, I would like to receive from you some practical tips
about the following subjects:

1) Thermal and airflow zoning: practically, do they always coincide?
If not, is it possible to do different zoning in TRNSYS and COMIS and
link them? In other words, is it possible to have in COMIS a unique
zone, correspondent to a thermal zone, with an internal partition, or
it is necessary to create two connected airflow zones?

2) Linking TRNSYS and COMIS: I tried to create a coupled project. By
default, Simulation studio links the thermal and airflow model
connecting zone temperatures and airflow rates. Is it the only link
necessary? Is it necessary sometimes to change this connection?

3) Cd of opening: does it exist a database of Cd coefficients for
different openings? I read that Cd coefficient fall generally into the
range 0,6 – 1, but I did not found many precise values.

4) Opening area: can external openings be scheduled depending on
external temperature or wind? And how to do for internal opening?

I thank everyone who will have the kindness to answer, even partially,
to my basic questions.

Best regards,

Marcello Caciolo
phD student
Ecole de Mines de Paris
marcello.caciolo@ensmp.fr





************************************************************************************
This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by
PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses.
************************************************************************************






************************************************************************************
This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by
PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses.
************************************************************************************




Mon Feb 4, 2008 4:36 pm

wkeilholz
Offline Offline
Send Email Send Email

Forward
Message #798 of 862 |
Expand Messages Author Sort by Date

Dear COMIS users, I am a beginner user of energy and airflow simulation programs. I studied theoretically how the different models works (in particular TRNSYS...
Marcello
marcellocaciolo
Offline Send Email
Feb 4, 2008
2:37 pm

Hi Marcello, I'm not the top expert for the physics part of COMIS, so maybe someone else wants to add some information, but here is what I know: 1) Zoning...
keilholz, werner
wkeilholz
Offline Send Email
Feb 4, 2008
4:34 pm
Advanced

Copyright © 2009 Yahoo! Inc. All rights reserved.
Privacy Policy - Terms of Service - Guidelines - Help