Search the web
Sign In
New User? Sign Up
comis · Multizone Infiltration Modelling
? Already a member? Sign in to Yahoo!

Yahoo! Groups Tips

Did you know...
Hear how Yahoo! Groups has changed the lives of others. Take me there.

Best of Y! Groups

   Check them out and nominate your group.
Having problems with message search? Fill out this form to ensure your group is one of the first to be migrated to the new message search system.

Messages

  Messages Help
Advanced
Cp Values for a solar chimney   Message List  
Reply | Forward Message #855 of 858 |
Re:Cp Values for a solar chimney

Dear David,

 

I can provide some reference values for you.

However, it may not be the best case to use any “reference” data due to the strong dependence between Cp on the top of the stack and the building/surroundings geometry.

 

The values below are based on the wind tunnel experiments performed for this study:
Unsteady natural ventilation at model scale—Flow reversal and discharge coefficients of a short stack and an orifice
Building
and Environment, Volume 43, Issue 9, September 2008, Pages 1491-1506
D. Costola, D.W. Etheridge

 

The goal of the experiments was not determining the Cp value you need, but rather studying the unsteady effects on the flow rate.

In this sense, Cp is a secondary result and you can consider that the uncertainty on these experimental results is high. After this disclaimer, here are the values:

 

No obstruction on the roof:

    Dir (°) / Cp

    0 / -0.7

    90 / -0.1

    180 / -0.6

 

With obstruction on the roof:

    Cp between 0.8 and -1.0 depending on the obstruction geometry and position

 

If I understood your problem correctly, the chimneys will be highly influenced by the presence of the clerestory, so you should use the data with obstruction on the roof.

As you can see, the results vary in a very wide range.

 

My advice for you is to perform sensitivity analysis for Cp, and go for wind tunnel tests if you need more precise data.

 

Kind regards,

 

Daniel Cóstola

PhD student

TU/e

Department of Architecture, Building and Planning
Den Dolech 2 - Vertigo 6.16 - P.O Box 513 - 5600 MB Eindhoven - The Netherlands

Phone +31 40 247 5760

Fax +31 40 243 8595

d.costola@...

 


Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:47 am

daniel_costola
Offline Offline
Send Email Send Email

Forward
Message #855 of 858 |
Expand Messages Author Sort by Date

Colleagues, I am attempting to model a clerestory building. On the lower roof there are a number of solar chimneys that rise above the roof but not so high as...
David Bradley
tesstrnsys
Offline Send Email
Jan 20, 2009
5:42 pm

Dear David The pressure coefficient at the end of a chimney is a combination the Cp value on the considered position above the roof and on the Cp value of the...
Andreas Weber
andreas_webe...
Offline Send Email
Jan 21, 2009
12:57 pm

David, in the past TNO has done wind tunnel research on that topic. It was the basis for Dutch regulations for exhaust outlet and chimney positions above the...
Knoll, B. (Bas)
basknoll
Offline Send Email
Jan 21, 2009
1:01 pm

Try this: Experimental and Theoretical Studies of a Solar Chimney with Uniform Wall Heat Flux by Jónas Halldórsson and Christian Byrjalsen Aalborg University...
Eric Hernández De...
mtbmexico
Offline Send Email
Jan 22, 2009
4:33 am

Dear David, I can provide some reference values for you. However, it may not be the best case to use any "reference" data due to the strong dependence between...
Daniel Cóstola
daniel_costola
Offline Send Email
Jan 23, 2009
12:38 pm
Advanced

Copyright © 2009 Yahoo! Inc. All rights reserved.
Privacy Policy - Terms of Service - Guidelines - Help