Further to my diatribe, I may add: thanks for listening..... comments welcome! Katie
On 24/08/06, Katie Gey van Pittius <southafricaninsideandout@...> wrote:
Hi there, thanks for replying, sorry if I appear anything not positive.. don't feel anything not positive but my fellow man will be the judge of that!Every Easter time for years now I have carried out a regime of cleansing and fasting, more recently with a week of uncooked raw food for a week either side of a week of fasting on water. I always feel fantastic for having done this, and after I came off the post fast week of raw food last time I reflected that I felt so wonderful, clear, energetic, and so on, that perhaps I should always live this way. Coincidentally .. and it is a coincidence, I live in a small town in a country of barbecue maniacs, at my local farm stall appeared a book about a woman who had lived for years on what she called the Eden diet, fruits nuts and seeds. For clarity, fruit is here defined as anything that carries a seed, and so is inclusive of avocados, tomatoes, beans. The diet requires absolute discipline and one may not eat if not hungry, only for need, never for desire. Like I say, I've tried it and am, in a day or so, after my birthday celebrations, going to assign myself one hundred percent to the diet for a full year trial, and then see from there. Judging from the results I've had from experimentation, I'll probably embrace the diet for life. But relevance to salt: something I experienced in the past weeks when I have been absolutely true to the diet is mood swings. I would feel so exhilerated I would have to sit down and try to breathe it off in order to work, and later things would become really dark, pointless, and all those less desirable feelings. I did some research and heard mention that fruitarians can be subject to these mood swings. A week ago whilst preparing a second serving of avocado, I had to honestly reflect that I was not interested in eating the avocado because of hunger, but because I love avocado, especially with olives or salt. I'd use the olives for their saltiness. I read the book by my countryman again, and found that she was explicit: no salt. It tampers with the water in the blood and thus affects the concentration of water to sugar in the blood. So no more salt, and I began to investigate the substance. Truly, we eat what we wouldn't with either a bit of fire, or salt added. The crunch comes when we see that in fact we absolutely have to have salt added to the diet once it has been subjected to fire, we are at the mercy of the substance, wars, currency, empires coming and going. Some say because of salt, I feel a bit more inclined to the side of .. because we cook our food, and are addicted to a diet of desire, rather than a diet of need, and so salt is our lot.I did a bit of internet research and found that farm animals, in short the animals under our care, also need salt adding to their diets. We cook their food too. Missionaries were traditionally called long pigs by cannabilistic amazonians because of our flavour, and we use the heart valves of pigs for heart transplants because the tissue is so similar, and because monkeys have a virus that is native to them but is mortal to us. Pigs have a hoof so we don't resemble them entirely, we are more like the monkey (this is all amateur conclusions on the face of the evidence), I would be interested to see more about their salt needs. The lady who wrote the book suffered no ill effects for not having taken salt, and I myself found I am a much less abrasive personality, more sanguine, for leaving it out. Of course only in some weeks will I really know myself without salt, when I have been without it for a while.My true interest isn't really in salt as such though, but for its electromagnetic properties. It seems to me that salt is an ingestible substance that conducts electricity. The next currency we had that is also an electric conductor was electrum, the first coins minted in 700bc (my "facts" come from a study of Helen of Troy by Bettany Hughes), from silver and gold. 'Electrum' comes from 'electron', and silver on the Periodic Table is the best conductor of electricity. Is the metal strip in our current bank notes silver? Our coins are nickel and copper, two metals magnificent for electric conductivity, and of course in these latter days money is truly electronic, and if the power is off then the rich are as rich as what's in the cupboard. Salt the electrolyte. This is the monomania I am fascinated by, but its off topic for sure, electricity makes the world go round. Money is a truly magnetic substance, even when it was salt we were using as currency. This is an electromagnetic world, attracting and repelling, positive and negative, good and evil.Thanks for listeningKatie
On 23/08/06, f f <sunrf1@...> wrote:uoh you seem to be a bitter one... short answer, it used to be in our natural food source - before we started messing with it.
peace
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From: southafricaninsideandout@...Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:37:37 +0200
Subject: Re: Bread and Salt, in ancient HebrewHi, please more information on these beasties that are dependent on salt. Do they develop the problems humans are reported to develop if they don't find salt licks? Also, in what sort of situations do salt licks occur in nature, will a troop of whatever sort of animal have to migrate or trek to find a lick or the existence of the troop is jeopardised?Modifying our food is one thing, but modifying it so that foodstuffs we ordinarily would find uninteresting become palatable, I think has consequences like hospitals, dieticians, psychiatrists, the list is endless. Two examples I'll give are the herbivore, the cow, being fed sheeps brains and spinal columns if they are cooked right, and the human disinterest in live or raw chicken but adoration for cooked chicken. The two things we do to disguise our foodstuffs, it seems to me, are subject them to fire or salt them. This alters the natural situation. Even sushi is taken with soy sauce and wasabi. Would we be so interested without these artificial applications - did we really climb out of the primordial swamp with a box of matches and a salt shaker? Why is it possible that a substance so vital to our existance is not naturally found in our foodstuff, surely natural selection would have gotten rid of such a flaw in our survival capabilities.Thanks for answering my questionsKatie
On 22/08/06, f f <sunrf1@...> wrote:of course we are slaves, in more ways than one. However, i think it is false to say that we are the only animals being obsessed with food. after all give any animal the chance to alter the food source and they will. look at chimps, monkeys or even at animals in african parks that eat fruit that have decayed to alcohol and i am sure there are more animals out there. there are some basic instincts out there: life and reproduce. we need to eat and drink all live long, every day, multiple times. Of course we will "mess" with our find as much as we can, for the better or the worse.
By the way, we are not the only ones being dependent on salt. horses and cows get a salt stone. some monkeys are being trapped with salt. and more examples exist of animals needing salt. most organisms on this planet are built in a way that requires them a certain amount of salt to function.
gtg
hope this helps
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From: southafricaninsideandout@...
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:41:54 +0200
Subject: Re: Bread and Salt, in ancient Hebrew
thanks, I've just been and checked and last night's late night reading left me squint. The quote is
Such was the importance of salt that the words, 'war' and 'peace' originate from the word for salt & bread in Ancient Hebrew and Arabic - The first war that mankind initiated was most probably over 'salt' supplies.
It reads differently today from how it did.I stand by the rest of my words, though. We are slaves.On 22/08/06, elimelec <elimelec@... > wrote:how do find that the words are the same?
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Subject: Bread and Salt, in ancient Hebrew
Dear Moderator,
Please can you explain how it is that salt and bread are the same word
in ancient Hebrew. According to the Eden story, we ate a normal diet
like other animals until our fall, and our diet changed then to become
bread, seeds and grains subjected to fire. That salt provides the
spark for fire is interesting too, and that it is the source of the
word slave. Of course we are slaves, what other animal HAS to have
salt? What other animal alters almost everything it puts in its mouthby subjecting it to fire? What other animal is quite as ill, or
obsessed with food, as the human? We may call our diet traditional,
but we may not call it normal.
But the question is about the link between bread and salt, please.
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