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> Hello. I guess the plus plus is some electrolyte balence thing becasue =
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> salt is an ion with a negative charge. I think you would trans=20=20
> position if you were put out in the middle of no where and had to live =
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> the way man did in the past. The ice box pre-dated the fridgadare, so =
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> you have to back further than 80 years to take a good look at food=20=20
> preservation. There are many ways to crash when it comes to intake,=20=20
> such as hypoglycemia and hyperglycemia. Certain types of depletion and =
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> the course of depletions will lead to/cause a collapse, such as in=20=20
> heat exhaustion and heat stroke. My roommate is jewish, and I told him =
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> that it is hard to eat just one potato chip becasue of the seasoning=20=20
> stimulates appatite. I think that in the past jews and others in the=20=20
> middle east lived closer to the land than most people do today or have =
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> knowledge about, so you assume the wrong things becasue man was=20=20
> smarter than the assumption when it comes to food, his diet, eating=20=20
> healty, and being efficient in and excelling at survival - we are=20=20
> still doing those things today, but I don't have an elegant way of=20=20
> putting in better terms to get across how nice I think the past was in =
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> living. I lived rurally for most of my life and come from a family=20=20
> that participated in hunting, gathering, farming, forestry, etc. so I =
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> know a little bit. I wonder how many real or long time hobbiest=20=20
> blacksmiths, masons, or carpenters you know becasue the introduction=20=20
> statement reminds me of a group that hasn't experienced things;=20=20
> therefore, knowledge may be limited or the willingness to learn might =
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> not be present, so don't take my posts as offensive.
>
> Becky DeWitt
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> --- In commonsalt@yahoogroups.com, + + <commonsalt@...> wrote:
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> > Becky - Welcome
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> > Please note we have supposed that in the past man
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> > became used to huge quanties of salt in his diet since
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> > practically every perishable item was heavily salted.
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> >
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> > The invention of the refrigerator and cooling preservation
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> > was invented only 80 years ago.
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> >
> >
> > We are assuming that today diets are so comparatively low in
> >
> > sodium that many are very dangerously close to dehydration
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> > especially when involved in any event leading to mild shock
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> > [like slamming on the brakes when someone walks in
> >
> > front of your car ]
> >
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> >
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> > To: commonsalt@yahoogroups.com
> > From: becky_median@...
> > Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 07:31:04 +0000
> > Subject: Salt Hello to the group.
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> >
> >
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> > Hello, I am a new member. I am a hobbiest anthroplogist. I was=20=20
> looking for an anthroplogy group to join, and I came across this=20=20
> group. I read the introduction, and I don't know how long before it=20=20
> will be before I am kicked off, but you guys and gals are way off on=20=20
> the history of salt and man. Of course, I don't mean the Saltsman's=20=20
> from Ohio that I know.
> >
> > Lets take a look at that introduction statement. Man was not stupid =
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> in the beginning. Cooking, canning, smoking, baking, and food=20=20
> preservation were discoveries to man. However, you are assuming that=20=20
> too much of a difference exitsted between us now and man from the=20=20
> past, which I think is wrong to assume.
> >
> > I would never adhere to some thing that indicates that people=20=20
> increased their salt consumption in the past not because I know it is =
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> illogical, but what function has man lost that he can't take on more=20=20
> salt? None, in my opinion.
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> > I have a medical backgroud, and as humans, just like other animals =
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> we will crave certains tastes that are biological and cultural related =
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> to our physical make up and our up bringings. However, I don't believe =
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> that man had to have super salted foods in the past, even though we=20=20
> might have foods and preserved foods that contain high sodium levels.
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> > Now lets take a look at sodium, soda, salt, rock salt, episum salt, =
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> white salt, and salt water. Do we use these in cooking, baking,=20=20
> smoking, and food preservation? Take a look at your baking soda and=20=20
> yeast containers and see what the product is make of even though it=20=20
> might be bought from the store, look at the contents. Furthermore, I=20=20
> know that some people can confuse baking soda with plain white soda,=20=20
> but I am not talking about soda pop here or the stomach remidy soda=20=20
> that goes plop, plop, fiss, fiss.
> >
> > For traditionalists, I would not promote that some how in the past =
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> that man could with stand a high sodium and salt level that we cannot =
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> do today. Some meats are semi-cured by rubbing salt on them, so I=20=20
> think you might have the amount of salt needed for the curing process =
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> might greatly out weighs what actual salt content ends up in the meat. =
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> I don't think man could physically stand that much salt in his mouth=20=20
> with food. Furthermore, some ancient people's were acustomed to the=20=20
> salt box, which is not table salt but a hygenic and slight food=20=20
> preservation method where a lot of salt is needed to line and fill the =
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> box to store some meats temporiliary before being cooked, baked, or=20=20
> smoked.
> >
> > We may also have different diffintions of what is actual food=20=20
> curing that requires salt. Fully cured, semi-cured, or dired cured.
> >
> > Looking forward to the discussions.
> >
> > Becky DeWitt
> >
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