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Hello, we are three students doing an assignment (around 60-100 pages). We are struggling with the synopsis and we would really appreciate if someone here...
martinthiim
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Mar 1, 2004
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1504
Hmm... Are you guys the opposition group of P!=NP... :) They have a group too you know, and I like their colors better....
Mr X
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Mar 2, 2004
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1505
... Your synopsis seems both adequate and unexceptionable. My personal view, and experience, is that your assignment is likely to disproportionately influence,...
Bhupinder Singh Anand
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Mar 2, 2004
6:26 pm
1506
Hello, thank you very much for your reply. We will try to get as many of the papers that you refereced as possible. It's always nice to get some perspective on...
martinthiim
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Mar 4, 2004
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1507
Definition Computable Number: "A number which can be computed to any number of digits desired by a Turing machine." The computable numbers are countable since...
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Mar 11, 2004
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1508
... You need an algorithm to enumerate the computable numbers, which means an algorithm to enumerate these Turing machines that for each input n, terminate...
Lieven Marchand
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Mar 11, 2004
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... How so? I think that you're thinking of this 'Given an arbitrary TM, does it halt with a number on its tape' but it seems that we're talking about ...
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Mar 11, 2004
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1510
... How are you going to enumerate the computable numbers. by enumerating the turing machines ? In that case it is not correct to assume that you can compute...
piyush_kurur
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Mar 12, 2004
5:59 am
1511
Hello, Thanks for the reply. You have shown that a TM that enumerates every possible TM in lexicographic order and executes that TM will never halt. I didn't...
Kevin L Stern
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Mar 12, 2004
12:55 pm
1512
Hi, You were asking about computable numbers... ... Okay up to this point. You've used diagonalization to define a new number which is evidently not...
Kurt Van Etten
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Mar 12, 2004
2:39 pm
1513
Kurt, I agree that the number is not computable. But the reason that it is not computable is that IF it WERE computable, then there'd be a computable number...
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klstern3
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Mar 12, 2004
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1514
Hi, ... intimidation ... ... compute the ... Proof by intimidation? Hmmm, not sure what that is. The proof that the number you defined is uncomputable is that...
Kurt Van Etten
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Mar 12, 2004
3:34 pm
1515
My god, did you even read my last email? You just repeated what I said and then explained how I don't understand it. The proof that the diag-comp is...
kstern1@...
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Mar 12, 2004
3:41 pm
1516
... Okay... I'll try to describe how to prove that NO algorithm can compute your number: 1) As you pointed out, the set of all computable numbers is ...
Peter Kosinar
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Mar 12, 2004
3:53 pm
1517
Nope, this is exactly the proof that I described twice now. Looks perfect to me....
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Mar 12, 2004
3:56 pm
1518
Let me rephrase your definition of computable numbers: Defn: A real number $r$ is computable if there exists a recursive language $L \subseteq \{1\}^*$ and a...
piyush_kurur
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Mar 12, 2004
4:14 pm
1519
... The above proof works fine for languages but one has to be carefull when dealing with numbers. This is because a number can have more than one binary...
piyush_kurur
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Mar 12, 2004
4:35 pm
1520
... KS == Perhaps, nothing! Here is another way of looking at it. Standard interpretations of Cantor's diagonal argument - of which the Halting argument you...
Bhupinder Singh Anand
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Mar 14, 2004
11:54 am
1521
Hello, I only have one question. I am in a bit of hurry so I only skimmed through your arguments. My appolgies if what I say is already answered (but I have a...
Piotr Faliszewski
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Mar 14, 2004
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1522
What do you mean by 'instantaneous tape description'? If you mean the TM will halt if it sees a previously encountered configuration: Imagine that this TM...
Kevin L Stern
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Mar 14, 2004
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1523
I must say, even though you're specifics are not sound - I agree that 'resolving' Richard's Paradox by saying that 'a string of characters defines a real...
Kevin L Stern
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Mar 14, 2004
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... From: Kevin L Stern To: comp-sci-theory@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [comp-sci-theory] Re: Computable Number What do...
Michael N. Christoff
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Mar 14, 2004
11:29 pm
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That was my point with the TM below, Michael ... How would the algorithm that looks for repeated configs detect the difference between a 1 being down the tape...
Kevin L Stern
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Mar 15, 2004
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... Piotr === No, of course not. The argument that I gave was, essentially, given by Turing in his 1936 paper "On computable numbers...", in the section titled...
Bhupinder Singh Anand
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Mar 15, 2004
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... Kevin ==== Sorry. I was being pedantic. The definition I had in mind was from Elliott Mendelson, Introduction to Mathematical Logic, 1964ed., Van ...
Bhupinder Singh Anand
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Mar 15, 2004
1:43 pm
1528
Please don't apologize ... I had never heard the term "instantaneous tape description" ... I see what you meant now. Either way, I thought you were claiming...
kstern1@...
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Mar 15, 2004
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... From: Kevin L Stern To: comp-sci-theory@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [comp-sci-theory] Re: Computable Number That was...
Michael N. Christoff
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Mar 16, 2004
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1530
... Apologies, I was wrong. I thought of a config as being the current state along with the currently scanned symbol. In light of recent understandings, I...
Kevin L Stern
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Mar 16, 2004
3:37 am
1531
I think that you two have lost perspective and need to refocus on what's really important, that is Computer Science Theory. Sometimes our intelligence levels...
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Mar 16, 2004
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... From: Kevin L Stern To: comp-sci-theory@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [comp-sci-theory] Re: Computable Number ... ...
Michael N. Christoff
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