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Is there a struct-like concept in Joy? Asim...
asimjalis
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Jun 2, 2002
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... Just like lists in Lisp and Scheme, Joy's quotations can be used in place of structs. In fact quotations are far more powerfull and flexible than structs. ...
e1_t
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Jun 2, 2002
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Hello, all, I downloaded and compiled the joy sources for Mac OS-X. The only trouble was with the gc (Boehm's, correct?): it didn't recognize Mac OS-X. This...
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Jun 18, 2002
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... It is indeed Boehm's. If you wouldn't mind, please snarf http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Hans_Boehm/gc/gc_source/gc6.0.tar.gz and replace the gc instance...
John Cowan
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Jun 18, 2002
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Hey Alan, and readers on concatenative ... ... Hmm... I have little real experience with FORTH, but my understanding is this: there are 3 main differences...
Brent Kerby
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Jun 18, 2002
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... understanding is ... (you can ... casts) whereas ... syntax; as far ... To an extent. Forth allows you to push the execution token of a word onto the stack...
e1_t
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Jun 19, 2002
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... Well, *that's* a solved problem; the Joy1 implementation uses a general gc, and is written in C. -- John Cowan <jcowan@...>...
John Cowan
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Jun 19, 2002
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... Not entirely - because C is typeless only conservative garbage collectors work with C (and same goes for Forth). They can only free a block when it's...
e1_t
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Jun 19, 2002
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... Correction... because C is weakly-typed.. Ivan...
e1_t
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Jun 19, 2002
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... True ... Maybe I was being a bit simplistic. I appreciate your interesting comments. ... Interesting work; I look forward to seeing it. I hope someday to...
Brent Kerby
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Jun 19, 2002
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As promised, I did finally finish the article about the theory of concatenative combinators, or in other words, what you get when you reduce Joy down to its...
Brent Kerby
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Jun 20, 2002
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Thanks to Brent Kerby for his concatenative combinators article, really excellent. I was thinking: "unit" and "cat" are kind of like _dynamic_ equivalents of...
Joel Kelso
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Jun 20, 2002
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... Interesting; I bet this could turn out to have some significance. Here's some random thoughts regarding inverses: - buryn is the inverse of dign, and vice...
Brent Kerby
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Jun 20, 2002
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... Were you aware of the other "Meta X" languages when you chose the name? That is, Meta II and Meta III are languages used in (old) compiler writing systems...
Stephen J Bevan
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Jun 24, 2002
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On a related topic, given the simple stack based nature of the Joy language, and that every node on the stack can be assigned a type, can anyone tell me if...
Nick Forde
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Jun 24, 2002
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... The stack is a stack any time that user code looks at it, but it is common within the interpreter to pop things off the stack, invoke interpreted code, and...
John Cowan
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Jun 24, 2002
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Hi, ... The following relates not to Joy but to a similar langauge of my own ("Monkey"). It's mostly the same but with some different types, modified syntax...
Martin Young
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Jun 24, 2002
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... name? ... No, I wasn't aware of those. Ivan...
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Jun 25, 2002
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... can ... in ... As I was saying I feel that garbage collector in a functional Forth- like language (like Joy) isn't neccessary considering that destruction...
e1_t
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Jun 25, 2002
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... Right. Note that strongForth is compile-time typed and polymorphic, whereas Joy is runtime typed and not polymorphic (although it has RTTI). ... Of course...
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Jun 25, 2002
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... How so? Joy has many polymorphic words, such as "size", which returns the size of a string, list, or set. -- John Cowan <jcowan@...>...
John Cowan
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Jun 25, 2002
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... Correct -- Joy has polymorphic words. Joy itself isn't polymorphic, but rather provides RTTI and the ability to branch on that information. It's not...
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Jun 26, 2002
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om While I'm pleased that my "forthski Vs. Joy" inquiry generated such a healthy discussion, I am disappointed that it doesn't seem that the question was...
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Jul 8, 2002
8:33 pm
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Dear friends As you know from my last posting, I have been on a long once-in-a-decade holiday. Now I am back at work, and will respond to the concatenative...
Manfred von Thun
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Jul 9, 2002
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... [..] The dip combinator dives underneath the top of the stack, does something there and finally restores that under which it dived (dove?). I was initially...
Manfred von Thun
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Jul 9, 2002
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I just finished adding continuations to Meta/4 and I was wondering what other people think of them. I'm also wondering if anyone thought of a different way to...
e1_t
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Jul 10, 2002
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... Correction - due to tail call optimization this should be 1 cont (which is the same as exit really). Although cont could be defined as a macro that...
e1_t
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Jul 10, 2002
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From: "e1_t" <e1_t@...> ... Continuations are worderful, but what you've implemented is only part of what people can use. See mlg's work on...
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Jul 10, 2002
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... part of what people can use. See mlg's work on continuations, backtracking, and coroutines in Forth to see the power of an open return stack. ... want to...
e1_t
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Jul 11, 2002
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Was my formatting that terrible? Ouch. Sorry. I posted from egroups, and they usually do better. Anyhow: From: "e1_t" <e1_t@...> ... When I say...
Billy and Melissa
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