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1145 al0nz0tg Send Email Jul 8, 2002
8:33 pm
om While I'm pleased that my "forthski Vs. Joy" inquiry generated such a healthy discussion, I am disappointed that it doesn't seem that the question was...
1146 Manfred von Thun
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Jul 9, 2002
1:30 am
Dear friends As you know from my last posting, I have been on a long once-in-a-decade holiday. Now I am back at work, and will respond to the concatenative...
1147 Manfred von Thun
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Jul 9, 2002
1:51 am
... [..] The dip combinator dives underneath the top of the stack, does something there and finally restores that under which it dived (dove?). I was initially...
1148 e1_t Send Email Jul 10, 2002
2:06 am
I just finished adding continuations to Meta/4 and I was wondering what other people think of them. I'm also wondering if anyone thought of a different way to...
1149 e1_t Send Email Jul 10, 2002
2:49 pm
... Correction - due to tail call optimization this should be 1 cont (which is the same as exit really). Although cont could be defined as a macro that...
1150 wtanksleyjr@...
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Jul 10, 2002
4:27 pm
From: "e1_t" <e1_t@...> ... Continuations are worderful, but what you've implemented is only part of what people can use. See mlg's work on...
1151 e1_t Send Email Jul 11, 2002
12:06 am
... part of what people can use. See mlg's work on continuations, backtracking, and coroutines in Forth to see the power of an open return stack. ... want to...
1152 Billy and Melissa
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Jul 11, 2002
4:41 am
Was my formatting that terrible? Ouch. Sorry. I posted from egroups, and they usually do better. Anyhow: From: "e1_t" <e1_t@...> ... When I say...
1153 e1_t Send Email Jul 11, 2002
6:19 am
... multiple ... work: if ... not ... unwinds ... Seems I messed that up. ... onto ... that ... numbers ... takes a ... Meta/4 ... almost ... specific ... is...
1154 wtanksleyjr@...
wtanksle Send Email
Jul 11, 2002
3:46 pm
From: "e1_t" <e1_t@...> ... I wish I'd thought of that -- great idea. So you're saying that ";" would be like Forth's "[']"? This wouldn't be as powerful...
1155 e1_t Send Email Jul 12, 2002
12:22 am
... would be like Forth's "[']"? ... Well sort of. Only when it's used from within other code stacks. Normally a word is defined as [ code ] " word" ; If ; is...
1156 e1_t Send Email Jul 13, 2002
5:48 am
Ignore my last post. I wasn't thinking when I wrote that heh - it would work but there are heaps of problems with that approach. I might in the end have to...
1157 Manfred von Thun
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Jul 17, 2002
6:07 am
... I am VERY impressed. This is a huge piece of work. Very professional. Thank you very much. As soon as I can I shall go through it in detail. ... Yes,...
1158 Manfred von Thun
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Jul 17, 2002
6:40 am
I have been reading this discussion with considerable interest, although I could not follow the details properly. Do you have any particular kinds of...
1159 wtanksleyjr@...
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Jul 17, 2002
3:03 pm
From: Manfred von Thun <phimvt@...> ... I plan to brag: "Joy, unlike your favorite language, supports continuations!" ;-) ... They're also...
1160 Billy and Melissa
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Jul 28, 2002
6:53 pm
From: "e1_t" <e1_t@...> ... This is very limiting as well; the main problem is that it's enormously complex. Why not just define a word which returns the...
1161 e1_t Send Email Jul 29, 2002
12:08 am
... possible ... stack ... enormously ... string as an I don't think it's limiting but like I said in my last post - there are heaps of problems with this...
1162 Manfred von Thun
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Aug 16, 2002
6:34 am
... [Q&A about continuations] ... Yes. I know that this is useful in imperative languages, and (I imagine) behind-the-scenes implementation of functional ...
1163 m_l_g3 Send Email Aug 18, 2002
6:48 pm
... The reason to introduce the L stack was: 1. words can call continuation, that is, transfer control forward leaving the address-to-backtrack on the return...
1164 m_l_g3 Send Email Aug 18, 2002
7:03 pm
... foo =/= bar foo == [r bar EXIT '] where [r ... '] stand for return stack nesting. Ok, we can have a language with the notation borrowed from mlg's ...
1165 e1_t Send Email Aug 19, 2002
12:16 am
... the ... is ... programmer ... return ... that - ... I don't have your papers or the time right now to remind myself of how it all works and what || does...
1166 Brent Kerby
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Aug 21, 2002
12:57 am
The last while I've been doing some reading on reversible computing systems. It's quite a fascinating idea, really; you all might like to look at Mike Frank's...
1167 Brent Kerby
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Aug 21, 2002
5:41 pm
After a bit more thinking about this, a few more thoughts surfaced ... First, I probably didn't clearly explain the whole point of the reversibility idea. The...
1168 Manfred von Thun
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Aug 23, 2002
2:12 am
On Wed, 21 Aug 2002, Brent Kerby wrote: [..lots of good stuff about reversible operations in a Joy-like language] Legend has it that in the 20's one of the...
1169 Manfred von Thun
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Aug 26, 2002
4:00 am
On Fri, 23 Aug 2002, Manfred von Thun wrote: [..] ... Here is a reasonable notation to use for the rules and for tracing the forward and reverse execution....
1170 Brent Kerby
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Aug 26, 2002
4:11 pm
... The main advantage I see of this "reversal stack" idea is that it allows irreversible programs to become reversible, simply by changing the interpretation...
1171 Asim Jalis
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Aug 26, 2002
6:21 pm
Is anyone using Joy for real-world applications? If so, what are some of these? Asim...
1172 e1_t Send Email Aug 26, 2002
11:49 pm
... allows ... essence, all ... but instead ... new "zap" ... stack. ... they've always ... this kind ... consuming ... writing a loop ... done using ... The...
1173 e1_t Send Email Aug 27, 2002
12:09 am
... Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think anyone is using Joy for any serious applications right now. I'm sure many members of this message...
1174 Brent Kerby
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Aug 27, 2002
1:25 am
... The way I see it, it doesn't really matter fundamentally whether the garbage is forced to be kept on the main stack, or on a garbage stack (i.e., where ...
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