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On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Samuel Falvo wrote: [...] ... A notation is concatenative if the concatention of programs denotes the composition of the functions which...
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... And very nice it is. Can/Should I now plant a link to this on the Joy page? Also, if there are any new primtives that would help this project, please let...
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... Feel free. You can grab the library itself from: http://www.system-7.freeserve.co.uk/joy/hlplib/hlplib.joy ... I would like to be able to access the symbol...
Nick Forde
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Hello, the subject says most of it. I can't reach the Joy homepage, have the latrobe servers been rearranged? Also, is there a BNF grammar for Joy available? ...
Shae Matijs Erisson
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... Nothing has moved. But our system administrators are doing something big and weird which I don't understand. I'm told "it won't take long". ... Yes. It is...
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... As I mentioned in one of my previous posts I'd prefer to have the PUBLIC definitions at the top of a file. Could you perhaps make the order of 'PRIVATE...
Nick Forde
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On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, falvosa <kc5tja@...> wrote: [.. apropos writing a Joy in Oberon ..] ... Coming from Wirth, it just has to be a very clean language....
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... [..stuff about syntax of MODULEs with PRIVATE and PUBLIC parts..] ... ^^^^ I had not planned to make a strong connection between modules and files (in the...
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... I haven't. Personally, I can't stand Pascal as a language. I can't put my finger on it, but it seems very limiting to me. I've never had any experience ...
Samuel Falvo
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Mar 12, 2003
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... See Brian Kernighan's "Why Pascal Is Not My Favorite Programming Language" at http://www.lysator.liu.se/c/bwk-on-pascal.html among other places. -- John...
John Cowan
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... I have, but his views are not only orthogonal to mine, but even somewhat offensive, because he leaves it at that. He never considers Modula-2 nor Oberon...
Samuel Falvo
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... Note the date. Kernighan's review was written in 1981, at which time Modula-2 was one year old and Oberon did not exist. ... Check out strongForth at...
John Cowan
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From: Samuel Falvo <falvosa@...> ... It's worth noting that a nice subset of Oberon is distributed with the parser generator "Gray" (or was that "Grey",...
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... Exactly my point. He has failed to revisit his position with respect to this, which leaves a nasty aftertaste in my mouth. Most authors who publish such ...
Samuel Falvo
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... Thank goodness many of the criticisms levelled against Pascal don't apply to successors like Modula-2, Modula-3, Oberon, Oberon-2, and Component Pascal. ...
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... In fact, his involvement apparently is limited to writing that paper, and the Pascal influence is limited to ":=" for assignment and the syntax of ...
John Cowan
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... couldn't ... A crucial pascalism :-)....
Steven Shaw
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... I wasn't aware of this! I will have to check this out. -- Samuel A. Falvo II __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web...
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... Oh man ... oh man ... I don't know what to make of this language. It apparently combines the worst syntactical elements of C and the worst syntactical...
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... When I started teaching myself programming, we had a DEC10 and as languages we had Fortran, Cobol, Basic, Focal, Algol60, Snobol, Lisp, Bliss and an early...
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... It's always been a source of irritation to me that the grammar is (mostly) trivial but the lexer isn't. That is partly due to the strange nature of the...
John Carter
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... I am not certain that Oberon forbids passing local procedures as parameters. If it's used purely within the scope of its containing procedure, it should be...
Samuel Falvo
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Mar 14, 2003
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... In Pascal, I suppose you mean. Of course the entire Lisp (and especially Scheme) community practices this art with abandon, and doesn't consider it black....
John Cowan
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... I think, though, that that is not ANS FORTH compliant; no non-primitive word can have a net effect on the return stack. In particular, I am certain that...
John Cowan
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... While this may be true, it's generally not advocated in Lisp programming. Lisp programmers generally tend to stick with more traditional, functional ...
Samuel Falvo
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... Without giving you exceedingly uninteresting details, my feelings towards ANSI Forth are not favorable. ANSI Forth made a lot of decisions that lean...
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... primitive ... I am ... towards ANSI ... lean towards ... take advantage ... nebulous ... supposedly the ... ample proof. C isn't the most portable of...
Ivan Tomac
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... I used C because it's considered to be a "portable" language by academia and industry alike. ... Historical evidence seems to suggest otherwise. As I...
Samuel Falvo
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... This is absolutely false, a meme that needs to be stomped out wherever it appears. As long ago as 1973, the Lisp compiler on the DEC PDP-10 was...
John Cowan
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... so ... academia and ... portability is ... understand the ... because the ... AT&T. "Look, we can ... throughout the ... programmers grew up ... systems ...
Ivan Tomac
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