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I have been looking through the joy papers, and have this confusion: The help on ifte says: ifte [B] [T] [F] -> ... Executes B. If that yields true, then...
Rahul
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Mar 1, 2007
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... Yup. Me too. But that's not what Joy does; some of Joy's combinators save the stack's state when they're performing certain types of actions. You simply...
William Tanksley, Jr
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Mar 2, 2007
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Hi, First (alpha) release of V is available here http://v-language.googlecode.com/files/v_0.001.jar It is nothing more than a dialect of Joy at this point ...
Rahul
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3229
I love to see languages running on the JVM. A couple of pointers just in case you're not aware: 1. Consider binding your implementation to the scripting...
Joe Bowbeer
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... Cool, congrats on nice progress. ... Curiosity: what's your goals? Your definition syntax looks nice, by the way. Simple and clean... Although I suppose...
William Tanksley, Jr
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... This would seem to generally fit my theory -- that applicative syntax is more powerful in its greater complexity, because an applicative syntax allows a...
William Tanksley, Jr
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Mar 3, 2007
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... dont have any goals (other than minimal syntax - (just '[' and ']')) for now, I think I will let the language evolve and see where it goes. ... thanks, ......
Rahul
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... scripting/ ... I was hopping to do it along with the FFI to java. ... Thanks I have done that now. rahul...
Rahul
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I tried to define ifte as it is implemented in joy1 and I found this: [T] [A] [B] ifte == [[[stack] dip] dip [dip swap] dip] dip #save stack and run T ...
Taoufik Dachraoui
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Mar 3, 2007
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looking at the defintion of factorial: in Joy: fact == [0 =] [pop 1] [dup 1 - fact *] ifte in v: [fact [dup 0 =] [pop 1] [dup 1 - fact *] ifte]. In the second...
Taoufik Dachraoui
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... The speed is probably not important in this case. I had not expected a change in behavior for a quote when it is inside an 'ifte' and when it is evaluted...
Rahul
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... Would there be situations when this is less efficient? If we are modifying n members in the stack in the condition, then we may need to save only that n...
Rahul
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... Joy also provides that operator, under the name of "choice". -- John Cowan cowan@... http://ccil.org/~cowan Half the lies they tell about me are...
John Cowan
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Mar 3, 2007
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... In fact, for Joy the stack is just another linked list in the heap, so saving and restoring it is just a matter of storing the stack pointer in a local...
John Cowan
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Mar 3, 2007
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3240
... Thanks, I should have looked at the source first :)....
rahul
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... Thanks for the clarification, my mistake really. - Manfred [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
Manfred Von Thun
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On 24/2/07 9:45 PM, "Brent L Kerby" <bkerby@...> wrote: [..] ... Not a NICE flat programming language, but interesting in the present context: machine...
Manfred Von Thun
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Mar 9, 2007
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... Actually, we can do without them. The machine whose sole instruction is "subtract 1 from data item D, and if it is now zero, jump to instruction J,...
John Cowan
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Mar 9, 2007
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For a long time I had been dreaming of static type checking for Joy, and perhaps even a Joy compiler of some kind. Only recently did I have a lucky thought:...
Manfred Von Thun
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Mar 9, 2007
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... So, are we hoping for a single instruction flat concatenative language? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
Manfred Von Thun
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Mar 9, 2007
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... Have you looked at the most recent Cat paper (http://www.cat-language.com/paper.html)? It could prove to be a useful starting point for designing a type...
Christopher Diggins
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... I've been hammering this in my mind, but I can't get it to work out right. ... The problem is that machine language/assembler uses explicit offsets to...
William Tanksley, Jr
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Mar 9, 2007
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... Grin. Unfortunately, that's neither single-instruction nor flat. Its instruction stream consists of (data index ,jump offset) pairs, so in effect if both...
William Tanksley, Jr
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... Very few Lisps allow you to recover the source form of a definition from its executable form (decompiling), but essentially all allow you to evaluate...
John Cowan
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Mar 10, 2007
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what is the difference between app1 and i in joy? The documentation on app1 says app1 X [P] -> R Executes P, pushes result R on stack without X. so executing ...
Rahul
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Mar 11, 2007
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Hi, The next release of V is available here http://v-language.googlecode.com/files/v_0.002.tar.gz Updates: more combinators are in place, an error handling...
Rahul
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Mar 12, 2007
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On 9/3/07 6:54 PM, "Christopher Diggins" <cdiggins@...> wrote: I did look at your paper and read it with great interest. I am not really competent to...
Manfred Von Thun
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Mar 14, 2007
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Most embarrassing. Seems I made one mistake in the documentation and a separate one in the implementation. Most of the other app¹s are marked ³obsolescent²...
Manfred Von Thun
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Mar 14, 2007
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Thanks for this, I had a vague suspicion that it might be so for the Lisps. In fact for any interpreter written in some implementation language it seems that...
Manfred Von Thun
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Mar 14, 2007
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... Since the language had assignments, there was no referential transparency to start with. But take the purely functional subset of just about any language ...
Manfred Von Thun
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