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3430
... Interesting. I propose a function called `compose'. It takes a quoted combinator [C1] and alters that combinator to expect TWO functions on top of the ...
kuwabatake
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3431
Yet another release of Cat is now available. I've posted some notes about the release, and plans for the next release at: ...
Christopher Diggins
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Jul 9, 2007
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3432
... Probably because the pros and cons are symmetrical... ie. The Good thing about point free form is the mechanism for getting from parameters to using them...
John Carter
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3433
... The last sentence was supposed to mean: but cannot take ANY level one entities as arguments. (And I really intended: and cannot take any level zero...
Manfred Von Thun
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Jul 10, 2007
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3434
... Not in general. If the data transport mechanism is explicit, then the written data transport will vanish only when the data transport needs are simple in...
William Tanksley, Jr
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Jul 10, 2007
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3435
for clarity, nothing beats a 2-d notation with peirce's "lines of identity" connecting input and output. for example, consider some set of functions f ......
stevan apter
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3436
... entity. So I ... Good catch. That makes what I was saying come closer to making sense :) ... From here, I see two options: 1. You've convinced me, I'll...
kuwabatake
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3437
I've just written a short (and hopefully accurate) tutorial on Mondas in pure-functional stack-based languages: ...
Christopher Diggins
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Jul 11, 2007
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3438
... Why rewrite using so many invocations of dip? Couldn't you rewrite to: ... [ 1 2 + ] dip .x swap * ... Chris. -- http://www.bluishcoder.co.nz...
Chris Double
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Jul 12, 2007
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Yes there is no real reason not to use "dip" throughout. I just thought that just would makes more explicit what the term rewriting strategy should be. ... ...
Christopher Diggins
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Jul 12, 2007
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3440
... Any pointers to candidates for the "simplest possible data transfer notation"? John Carter Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639 Tait...
John Carter
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Jul 12, 2007
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3441
What does that have to do with monads? The link that you included also doesn't have to do with monads. I feel like I'm missing something here. Daniel Ehrenberg...
Daniel Ehrenberg
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Jul 12, 2007
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... The comments on your post are interesting, especially the paper someone pointed to <http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~ctm/IdiomLite.pdf>. I don't know how useful...
William Tanksley, Jr
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Jul 13, 2007
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3443
... None aside from the clue I just gave. I don't think it exists ... yet ..., and I don't know how to build it. I have a vague suspicion that it'll involve a...
William Tanksley, Jr
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Jul 13, 2007
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3444
... It would be good to have more eyes on the subject. I am pretty good at mucking things up the first time around. :-) ... I may not understand precisly what...
Christopher Diggins
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Jul 13, 2007
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3445
... This is an interesting point. Specifying an ordering where non is intended, I believe can be considered to be simpler than differentiating between the two....
Christopher Diggins
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Jul 13, 2007
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This is an approach which I am unfamiliar with, and it does appear to be very powerful. Thanks for sharing it! ... [Non-text portions of this message have been...
Christopher Diggins
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Jul 13, 2007
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3447
... Thank you. ... I like this a lot. This does a good job of summing up what I like about point-free form very elegantly. One point though, is "explicit" the...
Christopher Diggins
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Jul 13, 2007
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3448
... You're right that it would increase grammar complexity (although perhaps it would coincidentally remove some other aspect of the grammar; I don't know)....
William Tanksley, Jr
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Jul 13, 2007
5:32 pm
3449
... Actually, I think John made a mistake in another word: the mechanism for moving _values_ from source to consumption is explicit. You're not moving...
William Tanksley, Jr
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Jul 13, 2007
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3450
... Perhaps you're right, and his work could lead to a semantic understanding of local variables in a concatenative context. ... Yeah, so do most...
William Tanksley, Jr
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Jul 13, 2007
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3451
... Well, at least we know how to translate linear (use-once) variables into concatenative notation, thanks to Henry Baker: ...
John Cowan
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Jul 13, 2007
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3452
... I agree. I don't understand why stack-based languages should have locals. There are a few edge cases where variables might be necessary, and as far as I...
Daniel Ehrenberg
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Jul 14, 2007
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3453
... Aha! Here we have the meat of it. Yes, having an unorder data type is implementationwise more complex, but semantically simpler. I suspect "unordered set"...
John Carter
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Jul 16, 2007
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On 16/7/07 11:34 AM, "John Carter" <john.carter@...> wrote ... One criticism of Joy has been that because there are no names for formal parameters...
Manfred Von Thun
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Jul 16, 2007
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3455
... Actually, an ordered data *type* is simpler in every way. But we weren't talking about data types; we were talking about the ability to specify dataflow....
William Tanksley, Jr
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Jul 16, 2007
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3456
... I'm simply doing a poor job of saying what I mean. What I was trying to say is that composition is always left-right, but that subterms could be evaluated...
Christopher Diggins
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Jul 16, 2007
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3457
... Yes, you're right. The missing definition is what a "subterm" is. Unlike most languages, a subterm is not a grammatical concept; it's defined semantically,...
William Tanksley, Jr
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There is a lot else in your response worth reading and perhaps commenting on... But I couldn't resist a quickie... ... The essence of the point under...
John Carter
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3459
... Yes, and furthermore, I meant that as a light toss-off joke. I also intended to discuss the issue further, and forgot to. My mistake; I made it look like I...
William Tanksley, Jr
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