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Re: nouns-verbs & Kelen AND Re: And now for something completely di   Message List  
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Re: simple phonology

#1 wrote:
> as much as you know, what is the natlang using the most little
> number of phonemes? I've heard about languages with only 4 wovels
> (nahuatl?) but wich one has the less sounds?

Nahuatl indeed has four vowel qualities (not counting /u/~/u:/ borrowed
from Spanish), but each of these also has a phonemically long counterpart,
thus totalling eight vocalic phonemes, which actually makes it above-average
for vowel inventories.

As for the smallest number of phonemes, it really depends on what you
mean. Abkhaz has only two, and perhaps one, vowel phonemically, but
it has around 15 phonetic realizations of those two phonemes, and lots
and lots of phonemic consonants (70-80? IIRC). Rotokas is sometimes
put forward as having the smallest number of total phonemes, since IIRC
it has six consonants and five vowels, but I am no expert on Rotokas.
The reality is probably that the language with the smallest number of
phonemes has not been documented yet.

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Dept. of Linguistics because our secret police don't get it right
University of Chicago half the time." -- octogenarian Sheikh Zayed of
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Chicago, IL 60637



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... Sylvia is also way busy, and will point you to some Kelen webpages rather than write out an explanation. A short intro: http://www.terjemar.net/kelen.php ...
Sylvia Sotomayor
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Jan 2, 2005
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as much as you know, what is the natlang using the most little number of phonemes? I've heard about languages with only 4 wovels (nahuatl?) but wich one has...
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Jan 2, 2005
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... The answer used to be Rotokas (6 consonants + 5 vowels = 11 phonemes) until Pirahã (7 consonants + 3 vowels = 10 phonemes) became more widely known. ... ...
Philip Newton
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Jan 2, 2005
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... Nahuatl indeed has four vowel qualities (not counting /u/~/u:/ borrowed from Spanish), but each of these also has a phonemically long counterpart, thus...
Thomas R. Wier
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Jan 2, 2005
12:53 pm

... Arabic has six: /a/ /i/ /u/ /a:/ /i:/ /u:/ Each vowel has a wide variety of realizations, depending on the surrounding consonants. I've been working on an...
Steg Belsky
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Jan 2, 2005
7:52 pm

... The distinction of long and short consonants may be considered a suprasegmental feature of the syllable, so that the number of vowels would remain three....
J. 'Mach' Wust
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Jan 2, 2005
9:27 pm

... Indeed! I believe a similar scheme was used in Ottomon Turkish script to indicate vowel harmony (i.e. certain consonants were written before/after front...
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Jan 3, 2005
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