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#167706 From: Chris Peters <beta_leonis@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 5:02 am
Subject: Re: Conlang bookbinding
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Shameless plug for a self-publishing company operated by a friend of a friend.



http://www.writelife.com



It's a for-profit company that fronts the setup cost to turn your work into a
sellable book (including the registration with an ISBN number, and in
booksellers' databases.)  It's somewhere about halfway along the spectrum
between "conventional" publishing houses on the one hand, and purely
"print-on-demand" services like Lulu.com.



In other words, they'll take a lot of stuff that conventional publishers won't,
but only if they think they can sell it.  But for the sake of personal
acquaintances, I thought I'd throw it out there.



:Chris



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#167707 From: R A Brown <ray@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:53 am
Subject: Happy Thanksgiving
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Over space & time, form WHATL Joseph Peanou sends greeting
to our US list members:

Καλό το εκ ευχαριστίο ημέρο!

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#167708 From: taliesin the storyteller <taliesin-conlang@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:21 am
Subject: Re: OT: Google Wave
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Daniel Demski wrote:
> Well you do a search, for "with:public conlang". But perhaps we should
> start one of those waves people are making like "whose interested in
> conlanging?". I'm not sure yet how much good those public
> directory-like waves do, but there seems to be one for just about
> everything.

I've made a public one called "Conlang", but the search-thingy is a wee
broken it seems to me so it might be hard to find.

Oh, and it's slooow...


t.

#167709 From: Christophe Grandsire-Koevoets <tsela.cg@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:43 am
Subject: Re: OT: Google Wave
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2009/11/26 taliesin the storyteller <taliesin-conlang@...>

> Daniel Demski wrote:
> > Well you do a search, for "with:public conlang". But perhaps we should
> > start one of those waves people are making like "whose interested in
> > conlanging?". I'm not sure yet how much good those public
> > directory-like waves do, but there seems to be one for just about
> > everything.
>
> I've made a public one called "Conlang", but the search-thingy is a wee
> broken it seems to me so it might be hard to find.
>
>
A *wee* broken? It's completely useless at the moment! I haven't been able
to find a single public wave with it, whatever the search string I used.

What's your username on Wave? If I add you as a contact I might at least be
able to reach the public waves you created.


> Oh, and it's slooow...
>
>
Really? The interface is rather fast on my side (unless it's downloading a
wave with 20 Youtube videos, but that's Youtube and Flash's fault, not
Wave's). Since it's all Javascript and AJAX, I suppose it depends on the
speed of you browser's Javascript engine.

In any case, Wave is of course really at beta stage at the moment, so you
can't expect it to work that well immediately (although I find the broken
search inexcusable. It's Google for expletive's sake!).

BTW, I've still got some invites as well, if anyone's interested :) .
--
Christophe Grandsire-Koevoets.

http://christophoronomicon.blogspot.com/
http://www.christophoronomicon.nl/

#167710 From: Christophe Grandsire-Koevoets <tsela.cg@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:47 am
Subject: Re: OT: Google Wave
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2009/11/26 Gary Shannon <fiziwig@...>

>
> For those unfamiliar with Google Wave:
> http://wave.google.com/help/wave/about.html#video
>
> Looks like it could be a very powerful conlanging tool.
>
>
Yeah, it seems particularly fit for collaborative works, not unlike Wikis
but with an interface that makes it easier to have real-time collaboration.
I'm curious to see how it evolves...
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Christophe Grandsire-Koevoets.

http://christophoronomicon.blogspot.com/
http://www.christophoronomicon.nl/

#167711 From: "G. van der Vegt" <gijsstrider@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:52 am
Subject: Re: OT: Google Wave
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2009/11/26 Christophe Grandsire-Koevoets <tsela.cg@...>:
> 2009/11/26 taliesin the storyteller <taliesin-conlang@...>
>
>> Daniel Demski wrote:
>> > Well you do a search, for "with:public conlang". But perhaps we should
>> > start one of those waves people are making like "whose interested in
>> > conlanging?". I'm not sure yet how much good those public
>> > directory-like waves do, but there seems to be one for just about
>> > everything.
>>
>> I've made a public one called "Conlang", but the search-thingy is a wee
>> broken it seems to me so it might be hard to find.
>>
>>
> A *wee* broken? It's completely useless at the moment! I haven't been able
> to find a single public wave with it, whatever the search string I used.
>

try 'with:public conlang' (without the quotes)

#167712 From: David Peterson <dedalvs@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:48 am
Subject: Re: OT: Google Wave
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On Nov 26, 2009, at 3◊43 AM, Christophe Grandsire-Koevoets wrote:
>
> BTW, I've still got some invites as well, if anyone's interested :) .


I've got my account set-up, but I have to ask you and everyone
else who's using it: What is this thing good for?  I still can't wrap
my head around exactly how this whole thing works, and how it
will be useful (and I'm especially interested in it for conlanging).

-David
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"No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn."

-Jim Morrison

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#167713 From: Christophe Grandsire-Koevoets <tsela.cg@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:56 am
Subject: Re: OT: Google Wave
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2009/11/26 David Peterson <dedalvs@...>

> On Nov 26, 2009, at 3◊43 AM, Christophe Grandsire-Koevoets wrote:
> >
> > BTW, I've still got some invites as well, if anyone's interested :) .
>
>
> I've got my account set-up, but I have to ask you and everyone
> else who's using it: What is this thing good for?  I still can't wrap
> my head around exactly how this whole thing works, and how it
> will be useful (and I'm especially interested in it for conlanging).
>
>
Well, I've not used it yet myself (due to the whole search thing being
broken), but my understanding of it is that it is basically the lovechild of
e-mail, IM and chat, forums and wikis. Like wikis, it allows collaborative
document building (but the document needn't be a HTML file. It can be any
kind of Google Doc). Like chat, it allows real time conversation. Like
e-mail, it allows postponed conversation, and like (some) forums, it is
automatically threaded.

At least that's how I understand it :) .
--
Christophe Grandsire-Koevoets.

http://christophoronomicon.blogspot.com/
http://www.christophoronomicon.nl/

#167714 From: Christophe Grandsire-Koevoets <tsela.cg@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:57 am
Subject: Re: OT: Google Wave
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2009/11/26 G. van der Vegt <gijsstrider@...>

> > A *wee* broken? It's completely useless at the moment! I haven't been
> able
> > to find a single public wave with it, whatever the search string I used.
> >
> >>
> try 'with:public conlang' (without the quotes)
>

What the...? I swear this very string didn't work ten minutes ago! Now it
gave back 10 results!

OK, I'll start looking at it now :) .
--
Christophe Grandsire-Koevoets.

http://christophoronomicon.blogspot.com/
http://www.christophoronomicon.nl/

#167715 From: "Mark J. Reed" <markjreed@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:19 pm
Subject: Re: OT: Google Wave
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re: Wave slowness, the browser is the key.  IME it runs much, much
better in Chrome (what?  Google Wave runs best in Google's browser?
Shock!) and is nigh-unusable in Firefox on all but the newest of
hardware.

I also have invitations - there seems to be a glut at the moment.
Which means they may open it up to everyone soon...

#167716 From: taliesin the storyteller <taliesin-conlang@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 1:37 pm
Subject: Google wave-nicks here
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#167717 From: "<deinx nxtxr>" <deinx.nxtxr@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:30 pm
Subject: Re: OT: Google Wave
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Daniel Demski wrote:
> I find myself in control of at least ten wave invites (...some of
> which are actually my mother's). I therefore offer them to the group,
> so that conlangery can be more effectively spread on what may end up
> an influential corner of the Internet.
>
> Who needs one?

Here please.

#167718 From: "<deinx nxtxr>" <deinx.nxtxr@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:36 pm
Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving
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Bah humbug!

#167719 From: "Mark J. Reed" <markjreed@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 3:11 pm
Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving
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Wrong holiday, Scrooge. :)

On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 9:36 AM, <deinx nxtxr> <deinx.nxtxr@...> wrote:
> Bah humbug!
>



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Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...>

#167720 From: Carsten Becker <carbeck@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 3:24 pm
Subject: Re: Concultural (or just conlang) Card Exchange
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OK. So I've bought a couple of postcards today as well as
stamps, however I'll only give those cards to the mail
gradually, from next Thursday on, since mail to the US takes
   about 1.5 weeks, and mail to Britain ~3 days, and within
Germany it only takes a day. I will put up a
translation/gloss of the text I wrote on the postcards
around Christmas when each of my exchange partners should've
got their card. It's nothing too personal, so I hope that is
OK with everyone.

I'm pretty darn curious for when I will get my first card. I
have already said in the ZBB thread on this that it's very
much like waiting for Christmas or my birthday when I was a
child. :D

Carsten

#167721 From: Carsten Becker <carbeck@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 3:25 pm
Subject: Re: OT: Google Wave
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<deinx nxtxr> schrieb:
> Here please.

I'm curious as well.

Carsten

#167722 From: "Mark J. Reed" <markjreed@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 3:19 pm
Subject: Re: Google wave-nicks here
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On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 8:37 AM, taliesin the storyteller
<taliesin-conlang@...> wrote:
> I'll go first:
>
> kaleissin@...
markjreed@...

This thread will  be a great resource for future GWave spammers. :)

--
Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...>

#167723 From: Jorge Cristino <languages@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 3:46 pm
Subject: TECH: Squirrel mail and GMAIL
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Has anyone tried to change from squirrel mail to gmail (under dreamhost's
webspace for conlang.org\LCS members)? I'm having some trouble with it...


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#167724 From: Brett Williams <mungojelly@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 3:55 pm
Subject: Re: OT: Google Wave
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On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Daniel Demski <dranorter@...> wrote:
>
> Who needs one?


Hi!  Me!  :)

I'm looking forward to some wavely conlangery with y'all.  :)


<3,
la stela selckiku
aka
mungojelly
aka
bret-ram
aka
brett

#167725 From: Roger Mills <romiltz@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 4:50 pm
Subject: Re: OT: Google Wave
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--- On Thu, 11/26/09, Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...> wrote:
> ... and is nigh-unusable in Firefox on all but the
> newest of
> hardware.
>
> I also have invitations - there seems to be a glut at the
> moment.
> Which means they may open it up to everyone soon...
>
Would this be of any use to a computer dummy like moi? Problem is, I use Firefox
(which keeps getting updated in [to me] imperceptible ways)... Probably hopeless
question: what about IE????

#167726 From: Roger Mills <romiltz@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 4:56 pm
Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving
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manó kaçile terayi! ambinda raka liri leroni anguvus.


> Καλό το εκ ευχαριστίο ημέρο!
Thanks, Ray.

#167727 From: Jim Henry <jimhenry1973@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 5:20 pm
Subject: Re: OT: Google Wave
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On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 7:19 AM, Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...> wrote:
> re: Wave slowness, the browser is the key. IME it runs much, much
> better in Chrome (what? Google Wave runs best in Google's browser?
> Shock!) and is nigh-unusable in Firefox on all but the newest of
> hardware.

Does anyone know of other browsers available for Linux on which Google
Wave works?  It seems Google Chrome for Linux isn't available yet
(though they have a signup page where if you give them your email
address they'll tell you when it's out).

--
Jim Henry
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#167728 From: "Mark J. Reed" <markjreed@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 5:30 pm
Subject: Re: OT: Google Wave
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Official builds of Chromium (open source project behind Chrome) for
Linux and OS X: http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/snapshots/

The V8 Javascript engine is what makes the difference, I think.
Firefox 3.5's TraceMonkey is pretty fast too, but something about Wave
makes its memory footprint grow much bigger than Chrome does.

On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Jim Henry <jimhenry1973@...> wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 7:19 AM, Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...> wrote:
>> re: Wave slowness, the browser is the key.  IME it runs much, much
>> better in Chrome (what?  Google Wave runs best in Google's browser?
>> Shock!) and is nigh-unusable in Firefox on all but the newest of
>> hardware.
>
> Does anyone know of other browsers available for Linux on which Google
> Wave works?  It seems Google Chrome for Linux isn't available yet
> (though they have a signup page where if you give them your email
> address they'll tell you when it's out).
>
> --
> Jim Henry
> http://www.pobox.com/~jimhenry/
>



--
Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...>

#167729 From: Daniel Demski <dranorter@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:19 pm
Subject: Re: OT: Google Wave
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Firefox hasn't given me too many problems (under Linux), actually. Of
course I do have a fair bit of memory, so maybe that's why. :)

I do like using Chromium anyway though.

OK, who needs an invite _from me_? Now that there are several people
offering them we need to carefully not double-invite, that's just a
waste of an invite.

Roger, Brett, Carsten, Deinx, I've got three of my own invites left,
though I can start borrowing my mother's. :) She's got a lot.

On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...> wrote:
> Official builds of Chromium (open source project behind Chrome) for
> Linux and OS X: http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/snapshots/
>
> The V8 Javascript engine is what makes the difference, I think.
> Firefox 3.5's TraceMonkey is pretty fast too, but something about Wave
> makes its memory footprint grow much bigger than Chrome does.
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Jim Henry <jimhenry1973@...> wrote:
>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 7:19 AM, Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...> wrote:
>>> re: Wave slowness, the browser is the key. IME it runs much, much
>>> better in Chrome (what? Google Wave runs best in Google's browser?
>>> Shock!) and is nigh-unusable in Firefox on all but the newest of
>>> hardware.
>>
>> Does anyone know of other browsers available for Linux on which Google
>> Wave works? It seems Google Chrome for Linux isn't available yet
>> (though they have a signup page where if you give them your email
>> address they'll tell you when it's out).
>>
>> --
>> Jim Henry
>> http://www.pobox.com/~jimhenry/
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...>
>

#167730 From: Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:44 pm
Subject: Re: Google wave-nicks here
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philip.newton (unsurprisingly)

#167731 From: Bruno Barcelos <bruno.barcelos.alves@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:53 pm
Subject: Re: Google wave-nicks here
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Surely a great source for spammers, but here I go:

bruno.barcelos.alves@...

#167732 From: Daniel Demski <dranorter@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:57 pm
Subject: Re: Google wave-nicks here
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dranorter@googlewave

#167733 From: R A Brown <ray@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:52 pm
Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving
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Mark J. Reed wrote:
> Wrong holiday, Scrooge. :)
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 9:36 AM, <deinx nxtxr> <deinx.nxtxr@...>
wrote:
>> Bah humbug!

Yes, indeed!

If Bob Cratchit had asked for time off to have Thanksgiving
    dinner with an American cousin, methinks Ebenezer Scrooge
would've said something a little stronger than "Bah,
humbug!"
	 ;)

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[WELSH PROVERB]

#167734 From: "<deinx nxtxr>" <deinx.nxtxr@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:26 pm
Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving
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Mark J. Reed wrote:

> Wrong holiday, Scrooge. :)
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 9:36 AM, <deinx nxtxr> <deinx.nxtxr@...>
wrote:
>> Bah humbug!

I'm a Grinch, not a Scrooge!  It's applies to the whole "holiday
season" beginning with the first hint of Thanksgiving and ending
just after the last decorations come down.

#167735 From: "<deinx nxtxr>" <deinx.nxtxr@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:27 pm
Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving
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R A Brown wrote:
> Mark J. Reed wrote:
>> Wrong holiday, Scrooge. :)
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 9:36 AM, <deinx nxtxr>
>> <deinx.nxtxr@...> wrote:
>>> Bah humbug!
>
> Yes, indeed!
>
> If Bob Cratchit had asked for time off to have Thanksgiving   dinner
> with an American cousin, methinks Ebenezer Scrooge would've said
> something a little stronger than "Bah, humbug!"

So would I normall, but I tamed it down.

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