... Jörg once compared the Khangaþyagon noun system to Dagestanian languages after translating it in a relay - for those of you who don't know, Khangaþyagon...
Peter Bleackley
Peter.Bleackley@...
Jun 1, 2009 9:07 am
160981
Is there a specific order to which to keep? E.g. Instinctively I would've ordered the segunakar in this way: mag-ye-gri-iss-r-gu tree-voc-above-near-pl-via ...
Eugene Oh
un.doing@...
Jun 1, 2009 9:25 am
160982
... The canonical order for segunakar is deixis-proximity-position-motion-number for local segunakar, and deixis-abstract-number for abstract segunakar. If I...
Peter Bleackley
Peter.Bleackley@...
Jun 1, 2009 9:39 am
160983
... I see that pernicious habit started by the Albanians and the Chinese of letting _q_ stand for front-of-velar sounds is spreading! Why, there are so many...
Benct Philip Jonsson
bpj@...
Jun 1, 2009 10:16 am
160984
... That's how I read it too. One not-so-exotic language which is sensitive to definiteness without having articles or any other morphemes dedicated to its...
Benct Philip Jonsson
bpj@...
Jun 1, 2009 10:42 am
160985
... And no automatic anaptyctic schwas in surface realizations? /BP...
Benct Philip Jonsson
bpj@...
Jun 1, 2009 10:46 am
160986
... There are fleeting vowels between the obstruents. However, I attended a very interesting presentation about a year and a half ago in which the presenter ...
Dirk Elzinga
dirk.elzinga@...
Jun 1, 2009 2:13 pm
160987
I knew this about Finnish, but this sentence from Peter's reply caught me off guard: "For McWhorter to be correct, there would have to be some feature [in] the...
Dirk Elzinga
dirk.elzinga@...
Jun 1, 2009 2:14 pm
160988
... Yes, once the Qakwani elders found out about that possibility some years ago they were all over it like cold on ice. Dropped the "ch" digraph they'd been ...
Larry Sulky
larrysulky@...
Jun 1, 2009 2:20 pm
160989
... So Sasxsek's use of <q> for /N/ is okay?...
<deinx nxtxr>
deinx.nxtxr@...
Jun 1, 2009 2:25 pm
160990
I fondly remember Pakuni (not speak it ;-) just remember seeing it) on television when I was a kid. Had to love those Sleestak, too. Plus, I even remember this...
Donald Boozer
donaldboozer@...
Jun 1, 2009 2:35 pm
160991
... IIRC, Fijian uses <q> for /Ng/. Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>...
Philip Newton
philip.newton@...
Jun 1, 2009 2:39 pm
160992
... I considered the same for Meghean, but decided it was too perverse (instead using ñ (n-tilde), which is only mildly perverse). For another project, that's...
Andreas Johansson
andreasj@...
Jun 1, 2009 3:02 pm
160993
... I understood McWhorter to be saying that there's some gramatical effect of the distinction in all languages. Having once known Latin well enough to...
Peter Bleackley
Peter.Bleackley@...
Jun 1, 2009 3:16 pm
160994
... Yes and _g_ for /N/. I used _g_ = /N/ and _q_ = /g/ in one conlang long ago. OK _q_ values for me would be [? H\ q X G\ R G g k], i.e. values which...
Benct Philip Jonsson
bpj@...
Jun 1, 2009 3:51 pm
160995
... As do Samoan and Niuean, but not Tongan; odd, since Niuean is more closely related to Tongan than to Samoan. AIUI, this is a legacy of Christianity (and,...
Philip Newton
philip.newton@...
Jun 1, 2009 3:56 pm
160996
... And _p_ for /?/! ;-) /BP...
Benct Philip Jonsson
bpj@...
Jun 1, 2009 4:02 pm
160997
... In Qakwan's defense, it too is ahistorical. ... Okay, okay, you're right, Philip: you ARE an old stodge! ;-) In truth, <q> was chosen for /tS/ because (1)...
Larry Sulky
larrysulky@...
Jun 1, 2009 4:03 pm
160998
You all better cut it out before somebody gets hurt!...
Larry Sulky
larrysulky@...
Jun 1, 2009 4:04 pm
160999
Another review: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/05/17/RV7J17I5FA.DTL It takes an... interesting perspective. Sorta halfway between...
Sai Emrys
saizai@...
Jun 1, 2009 4:10 pm
161000
And another: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/24/books/review/Blount-t.html?pagewanted=all - Sai...
Sai Emrys
saizai@...
Jun 1, 2009 4:11 pm
161001
... Ah yes. And <a> will, of course, be /y/, while <i u> will be something along the lines of /3\ e/, respectively. Presumably there should also be ring-above...
Philip Newton
philip.newton@...
Jun 1, 2009 4:16 pm
161002
(Did you mean to reply directly?) ... Sasxsek is a global auxlang so maximum machine compatibility is a must, meaning nothing beyond the 7-bit ASCII range....
<deinx nxtxr>
deinx.nxtxr@...
Jun 1, 2009 4:23 pm
161003
... No problem with <q> but it wouldn't have been my choice. I tend to favor <c> for /t_S/ as in Malay-Indonesian and some other major Austronesian languages....
<deinx nxtxr>
deinx.nxtxr@...
Jun 1, 2009 4:48 pm
161004
... actually, once I started looking, there're quite a flurry. Check the list: http://conlang.org/press.php The Brian Lehrer Show includes samples of...
Sai Emrys
saizai@...
Jun 1, 2009 4:59 pm
161005
... Actually it was /k/ in all natlangs which used it prior to the mid 19th century or even later. ... C'mon, I made clear that my 'opinions' are just gut...
Benct Philip Jonsson
bpj@...
Jun 1, 2009 5:01 pm
161006
... It's only really a problem because we seem to have standardized on black-on-white for the WYSIWYG effect. It's the switching between the dark-on-light and...
<deinx nxtxr>
deinx.nxtxr@...
Jun 1, 2009 5:06 pm
161007
... One more serious linguist outed as a conlanger. Who'd thought! :-) /BP...
Benct Philip Jonsson
bpj@...
Jun 1, 2009 5:20 pm
161008
... ISTR originally Latin used it for /k_w/....
<deinx nxtxr>
deinx.nxtxr@...
Jun 1, 2009 5:22 pm
161009
... Senjecas has 12 pairs of voiced and unvoiced consonants. The palatal clan contains /c/ and /J\/ (/k/ and /g/ allophonically), /C/ and /j\/, /j_0/ and /j/....
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