... Ah, but you could say "It was the sky that the Almighty hurled Him headlong from". It's not even such a poetic use, it's just suggest a very ...
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And Rosta
and.rosta@...
Feb 21, 2013 5:03 pm
is the _bogo_ in _bogolang_ from _bogus_ or _bogof_ (buy one get one free) or something else? If _bogus_, what sense is meant? Something that looks real but...
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Jörg Rhiemeier
joerg_rhiemeier@...
Feb 21, 2013 5:04 pm
Hallo conlangers! ... I think it is from _bogus_ in the sense of looking real but being false. -- ... brought to you by the Weeping Elf ...
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BPJ
bpj@...
Feb 21, 2013 5:25 pm
... OK, I should have added "if the scenario isn't all too outrageous. ... OK, so maybe I'm expecting to much of the average newbie, but essentially I agree...
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Patrick Dunn
pwdunn@...
Feb 21, 2013 5:38 pm
That's what I assumed, and therefore do not like the term very much. It seems to imply an attempt to pass something off as something it's not. ... -- Second...
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MorphemeAddict
lytlesw@...
Feb 21, 2013 5:46 pm
... stevo...
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Leonardo Castro
leolucas1980@...
Feb 21, 2013 6:15 pm
I didn't know the meaning of bogolang either, but I had no courage enough to ask... A thing that comes to mind is that a conlang that is aimed to be realistic...
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Alex Fink
000024@...
Feb 21, 2013 6:40 pm
As I said in the other thread, I think Geoff Eddy was the first to apply "bogus" to this sort of conlanging: ...
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Matthew George
matt.msg@...
Feb 21, 2013 8:06 pm
... General question: would be English equivalent be "bitchin' "? Matt G....
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Matthew George
matt.msg@...
Feb 21, 2013 8:24 pm
... But then the subject becomes "the sky" instead of "Him". The meaning is fundamentally changed - the alteration to word order disrupts the semantics. I'm...
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Matthew George
matt.msg@...
Feb 21, 2013 8:29 pm
It might be appropriate to mention the episode of The Simpsons<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_the_Iconoclast>that coined two neologisms that subsequently...
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George Corley
gacorley@...
Feb 21, 2013 9:10 pm
... Embiggen is certainly a word. I'm not sure how much use "cromulent" gets -- I've only really heard it in contexts talking about that episode (where it is,...
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George Corley
gacorley@...
Feb 21, 2013 9:19 pm
... The semantics don't change. The syntax does, as do the implications for discourse (as you would only see this construction in the wild in very particular...
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DM
decadent.muffin@...
Feb 21, 2013 10:08 pm
Well, one could argue that a gender-typical male would show far less interest in conlanging than those of the list, although I may be influenced here by those...
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Jörg Rhiemeier
joerg_rhiemeier@...
Feb 21, 2013 10:48 pm
Hallo conlangers! ... Sure. Making a "bogolang"; with a plausible scenario (I don't like this word, and prefer calling them "graftlangs", as grafting is what...
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MorphemeAddict
lytlesw@...
Feb 22, 2013 1:19 am
... But elegance is a form of esthetics. stevo...
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Roman Rausch
aranwe@...
Feb 22, 2013 12:16 pm
... Does it really, though? He himself calls it "very different from Elvish, yet organized and expressive, as would be expected of a device of Sauron before...
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Leonardo Castro
leolucas1980@...
Feb 22, 2013 1:03 pm
... I would like you to place it here on the list. Anyway, I'm interested on having access to your thoughts by whatever means. BTW, I think there's another...
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BPJ
bpj@...
Feb 22, 2013 1:05 pm
... I couldn't agree more, but look up his description of his intentions with BS -- in "Letters" I think, which I don't have at hand. My own Sohlob is...
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Leonardo Castro
leolucas1980@...
Feb 22, 2013 1:53 pm
... I didn't know this expression, but, judging by Urban Dictionary definitions, yes. [...] ... Yes with regard to me. ... I guess the less common order is...
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George Corley
gacorley@...
Feb 22, 2013 2:32 pm
... Are poetry and songwriting considered feminine? I think I might think of poetry as somewhat feminine, but this has to be extremely culturally specific, as...
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Matthew George
matt.msg@...
Feb 22, 2013 8:52 pm
I look back on the poetry discussion and am reminded of why I should not try to analyze sentence structure when very tired. Those weren't the subjects at all,...
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DM
decadent.muffin@...
Feb 22, 2013 9:11 pm
Whether or not poetry or songwriting are considered "feminine"; depends on the culture. There is nothing "naturally" feminine about them. The principle extends...
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Jim Henry
jimhenry1973@...
Feb 22, 2013 11:40 pm
... I've never seen the episode in question, and the first several times I heard the word used I didn't recognize the reference, and yet the meaning was clear...
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Jim Henry
jimhenry1973@...
Feb 22, 2013 11:50 pm
... I'll second the recommendation. Ms. Fine reviews a number of pop-science books which have misrepresented and exaggerated the studies on neurological and...
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Patrick Dunn
pwdunn@...
Feb 22, 2013 11:59 pm
I used it today in linguistics, when I explained that "colorless green ideas sleep furiously" is perfectly cromulant syntactically despite being meaningless...
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Adam Walker
carraxan@...
Feb 23, 2013 12:35 am
Okay, so while googling cromulent to find uses NOT related to or mentioning The Simpsons (like The Cromulent Shakespeare Company and Cromulent Records) I found...
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Sam Stutter
samjjs89@...
Feb 23, 2013 1:50 pm
This might be old news: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21518574 As you might have guessed from my header, I'm not convinced. Italian and Spanish both have...
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George Corley
gacorley@...
Feb 23, 2013 3:07 pm
... This story has been around for a while. I haven't gotten around to looking at the actual paper (something I'd like to do), but the complicated nature of...
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Sam Stutter
samjjs89@...
Feb 23, 2013 3:13 pm
My bad, was writing that during a hurried lunch break. ... That's exactly what I was trying to say. Thanks for putting it much more clearly. ... Of course! I...
