... Not in all cases; I agree there are many situations in which it is totally valid to invent a sentence and ask someone to make judgments about it. But in...
195410
George Corley
gacorley@...
Mar 1, 2013 10:54 pm
... For clarity, according to WALS, tone languages are actually more common than non-tone languages: ...
195411
Logan Kearsley
chronosurfer@...
Mar 1, 2013 10:58 pm
... Longer source code generally isn't the problem, for exactly the reason you guess- length of source has very little relation to the size of compiled machine...
195412
H. S. Teoh
hsteoh@...
Mar 2, 2013 12:05 am
... Huh, that's new to me. :) I stand corrected. ... Yes, but the section immediately preceding that table speaks of the variety of different transcription...
195413
Leonardo Castro
leolucas1980@...
Mar 2, 2013 1:44 am
... I thought standard German did this: aren't "Was ist das?" and "Das Auto." standard German? ... My conlang doesn't distinguish pronouns by gender: "it",...
195414
MorphemeAddict
lytlesw@...
Mar 2, 2013 4:07 am
... "Das" is both a pronoun ("that") and a definite article (neuter singular nominative/accusative. It doesn't mean 'it', which is "es". stevo...
195415
Roger Mills
romiltz@...
Mar 2, 2013 4:15 am
... Only in the singular: el libro (the book) vs. él (he). In the plural it's "los libros" (the books) vs. ellos (they [m or mixed]). stevo Also, I believe...
195416
Patrick Dunn
pwdunn@...
Mar 2, 2013 6:57 am
So now I'm looking at tonogenesis. I'm thinking perhaps that stops will raise the tone of the preceding vowel, while fricatives will lower it, which appears...
195417
Douglas Koller
douglaskoller@...
Mar 2, 2013 8:28 am
... This has been covered quite adequately by others, but please to indulge me to opine... :) Yes and no. NO, I feel a kind of mental suspension of character...
195418
yuri
yuridg@...
Mar 2, 2013 9:10 am
... I had a linguistics lecturer at uni who told us that when she went to Thailand (I think it was Thailand - it might've been somewhere else) the locals got...
195419
Leonardo Castro
leolucas1980@...
Mar 2, 2013 12:56 pm
... In Portuguese, the object pronouns have exactly the same form of the definite articles: "o, a, os, as" . But sometimes the object pronouns can be written...
195420
George Corley
gacorley@...
Mar 2, 2013 3:32 pm
... Actually, I should be corrected. Alex pointed this out: ... I guess my point is that tone languages are quite common, though they aren't actually MORE...
195421
Alex Fink
000024@...
Mar 2, 2013 3:37 pm
... It's not really one stage; I'd construe it as two or maybe three. First, the final stops weakened to [?], and [s] (the only fricative that was ever in...
195422
George Corley
gacorley@...
Mar 2, 2013 4:04 pm
... Certainly seems possible. I think you might end up with tones showing up in other places through processes like analogy and tone spreading, but this could...
195423
David McCann
david@...
Mar 2, 2013 4:35 pm
On Sat, 2 Mar 2013 00:57:31 -0600 ... The loss of final consonants often leads to tones. stop > ʔ > creaky voice > high tone e.g. Chipewyan -tó < Athbascan...
195424
Patrick Dunn
pwdunn@...
Mar 2, 2013 4:41 pm
So I could have a general lenition rule for final consonants. Stops are weakened to [?] and fricatives to [h] before another consonant, which triggers creaky...
195425
Leonardo Castro
leolucas1980@...
Mar 2, 2013 4:43 pm
2013/3/2 George Corley <gacorley@...>: [...] ... "Of the 526 languages included in the data used for this chapter, 306 (58.2%) are classified as...
195426
George Corley
gacorley@...
Mar 2, 2013 4:55 pm
... That doesn't mean that tone languages are actually more common than non-tone languages, which was what I incorrectly claimed earlier. It just means that...
195427
Leonardo Castro
leolucas1980@...
Mar 2, 2013 4:55 pm
Bilinguals Find It Easier to Learn a Third Language http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/02/110201110915.htm Actually, I wasn't able to learn a third...
195428
George Corley
gacorley@...
Mar 2, 2013 4:59 pm
... This has been out there for a while. As you learn more languages, it apparently gets easier....
195429
Njenfalgar
njenfalgar@...
Mar 2, 2013 6:19 pm
2013/3/2 Patrick Dunn <pwdunn@...> ... I don't think nasalisation will trigger tonogenesis. Usually tones arise from glottal stuff, as explained by...
195430
Jeffrey Daniel Rollin...
jeff.rollin@...
Mar 2, 2013 7:06 pm
It probably also depends on what languages you learn. For example, it might be easier to learn (say) Navajo as a third language if your first language is...
195431
Anthony Miles
mamercus88@...
Mar 2, 2013 8:03 pm
I was clearing out my phone, and I came across a Siye text I had been composing for a 30-day con-text that fizzled. It's about the challenges missionaries on...
195432
Roger Mills
romiltz@...
Mar 2, 2013 8:23 pm
... I had a linguistics lecturer at uni who told us that when she went to Thailand (I think it was Thailand - it might've been somewhere else) the locals got...
195433
MorphemeAddict
lytlesw@...
Mar 2, 2013 8:55 pm
My brother-in-law just told me about something called Boontling, a derivative language based mostly on English, spoken in Boonville, California. ...
195434
Sylvia Sotomayor
terjemar@...
Mar 2, 2013 8:59 pm
We will be having a relay for LCC5, May 4-5 in Austin, TX. If you would like to participate, please send me your name and contact info, your availability...
195435
Amanda Babcock Furrow
langs@...
Mar 2, 2013 9:01 pm
Stumbled across a 75% off sale on selected books from the University of Nebraska Press. There are a few linguistics books (on American Indian languages) among...
195436
Anthony Miles
mamercus88@...
Mar 2, 2013 9:14 pm
I finally finished my Maltese grammar. It's a wonderful language and an excellent illustration of what long-term contact change looks like. But I had a few...
195437
Anthony Miles
mamercus88@...
Mar 2, 2013 10:07 pm
PREVIOUSLY ON THIS THREAD (as narrated by Majel Barrett): The synonymous-root solution is quite naturalistic, but 351 roots is probably insufficient for a...
195438
Patrick Dunn
pwdunn@...
Mar 2, 2013 10:07 pm
... That does seem strange, but my guess is that it comes from some phonological difference in the borrowed form. I don't know Italian, but is there a...
