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Hi Lee,

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Roy Dennis is probably the best to contact about this one, as I think he coordinates Osprey ringing in the UK...

�

Best wishes

�

Kane

2009/11/11 <LGREUK400@...>

�

A juvenile OSPREY has been present in and around my village since 21 October and looks as though it may winter (see photographs on my local blog at
�

http://birdingamersham.blogspot.com/

�

For the first time today, I realised it was ringed, with a normal metal BTO ring on the RIGHT tarsi but on the LEFT tarsi a COBALT BLUE ring with WHITE lettering, most probably inscribed ''E15'' but just possibly ''E19'' The lettering is horizontal and can be read from the side.

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I have searched the internet for this bird but failed to find it. Any clues anyone - Rutland Water? Speyside/Inverness-shire? Italy?

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#3861

From: LGREUK400@...
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:28 pm
Subject: Re: Help required on colour-ringed OSPREY

LGREUK400@...

Many thanks Kane

Roy has been very helpful as expected - at the moment it may be an Osprey ringed in Latvia !!

All the very best

Lee

#3862

From: Matthieu VASLIN <matthieu.vaslin@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:26 am
Subject: Re: Avocet scheme?

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Hi,

It's a bird from the French ringing scheme ! New combination since 2008 !
Ask Guillaume Gelinaud fior the ringing details and life history of this bird.

Regards,

Matthieu VASLIN

2009/11/7 Mark Hoekstein <mhoekstein@...>

a friend saw a colour-ringed Pied Avocet, he could'not find the scheme om CR-brirding, nor could other cr-birders help him further. So does anyone recognise this bird / scheme:

�

RLf / WYO

Left tarsus had a metal ring.

�

Answers please to his mailadress: vlietvlieland@...

�

all the best

Mark Hoekstein

�

And for Dirk: keep on going, you are doing a tremendous job! We appreciate it a lot.

#3863

From: "H.J. van Huffelen" <h.j.van.huffelen@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:26 pm
Subject: email adresses wanted (offline please)

hjvanhuffelen

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Dear CR readers and ringers,
As CMR Officer of the IWSG I would like to get in contact with Mark Bolton.
Who can help me (offline) to get his email adres. My mail came back
"undeliverable"
Same questions for Gaute Gronstol,Ingvar Byrkjedal,Terje Lislevand (all
lapwing ringers
Txs in advance, Henk van Huffelen IWSG

#3864

From: Kees Camphuysen <Kees.Camphuysen@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:10 am
Subject: Unknown marker

Kees.Camphuysen@...

Dear friends

While my colony (large gulls) was searched for rings with a metal detector yesterday, a rather odd mark was found that we have no idea of. Perhaps you may have an idea

It is a metal clip, a strip of metal folded with a pin on the open end as if this should lead through something, aluminum by the weight of it, with a stamp saying

EB98334

It seems that the metal has been painted white previously (all over), as if reading at distance was not required.

Any ideas? We thought a wing-tag at first, but dropped that idea meanwhile

Measurements: leg-length 40mm (it’s a folded strip, so the strip in all was 80mm)

Leg width 12mm

Opening on the not-folded end 10 mm (pin length = 10mm)

Sincerely

Kees Camphuysen

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#3865

From: Raymond Klaassen <raymond.klaassen2@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:43 am
Subject: Re: Unknown marker

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Hi Kees,

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This sounds like a fish tag to me. See for example: http://www.nationalband.com/nbtfish.htm

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I guess that people from Imares are tagging fish in the North Sea.

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Regards!

�

Raymond Klaassen

2009/11/13 Kees Camphuysen <Kees.Camphuysen@...>

�

Dear friends

�

While my colony (large gulls) was searched for rings with a metal detector yesterday, a rather odd mark was found that we have no idea of. Perhaps you may have an idea

�

It is a metal clip, a strip of metal folded with a pin on the open end as if this should lead through something, aluminum by the weight of it, with a stamp saying

�

�� EB98334

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It seems that the metal has been painted white previously (all over), as if reading at distance was not required.

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Any ideas? We thought a wing-tag at first, but dropped that idea meanwhile

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Measurements:�� leg-length 40mm (it�s a folded strip, so the strip in all was 80mm)

�� Leg width 12mm

�� Opening on the not-folded end 10 mm (pin length = 10mm)

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Sincerely

�

Kees Camphuysen

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#3866

From: "Buijs, Roland-Jan" <r.buijs@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:20 pm
Subject: RE: Unknown marker

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E kees.camphuysen@nioz.nl

Hi Kees,

This clip seems to be a earmark from goat or sheep, gulls feed from slaughterhouses en eat the ears with these marks.

By the way did they find many rings with the detector?

All the best,

Roland-Jan Buijs

Van: cr-birding@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com] Namens Kees Camphuysen
Verzonden: vrijdag 13 november 2009 9:11
Aan: cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
Onderwerp: [cr-birding] Unknown marker

Dear friends

While my colony (large gulls) was searched for rings with a metal detector yesterday, a rather odd mark was found that we have no idea of. Perhaps you may have an idea

It is a metal clip, a strip of metal folded with a pin on the open end as if this should lead through something, aluminum by the weight of it, with a stamp saying

EB98334

It seems that the metal has been painted white previously (all over), as if reading at distance was not required.

Any ideas? We thought a wing-tag at first, but dropped that idea meanwhile

Measurements: leg-length 40mm (it’s a folded strip, so the strip in all was 80mm)

Leg width 12mm

Opening on the not-folded end 10 mm (pin length = 10mm)

Sincerely

Kees Camphuysen

NIOZ logo-basis-LR

Kees (C.J.) Camphuysen, marine ornithologist

NIOZ Koninklijk Nederlands Instituut voor Zeeonderzoek

Mariene Ecologie en Evolutie (MEE)

Postbus 59, 1790 AB Den Burg

Landsdiep 4, 1797 SZ 't Horntje, Texel (direct naast de veerhaven)

T 0222 369 488

M voor intimi

F 0222 319 674

http://www.nioz.nl/nioz_nl/3f79b45e9f26aa823bdf4f37fabf40de.php

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#3867

From: Kees Camphuysen <Kees.Camphuysen@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:35 pm
Subject: Strange metal marker

Kees.Camphuysen@...

http://metaldetectorreviews.net/detectors/105-2-garrettace250.html

Dear all

Multiple reactions were received on my mail this morning about a strange numbered metal clip we found during a search for rings in the gull colony I normally work in and I am very grateful for these responses, I think we know the answer now.

At the same time, many people asked if we found any rings and what metal detector was used. In response to all these I though it useful to share all this with you; take it or leave it, it may come in handy and otherwise, just ignore this

(1) Suggestions regarding our tag ranged from turtle tags to ear clips in sheep or goats. Within our area there are no turtles, no sheep and no goats, but as RJ Buijs suggested, our gulls may have been scavenging at a slaughterhouse where “clipped ears” (in a double sense) are readily available prey. I saw some photo’s and I think I agree with the sheep/goat suggestion

(2) Yes, rings were found, even though the search effort was very short, so the technique is clearly effective

(3) Yes, aluminium rings would have been found (but I use steel…) with this detector

(4) Yes, we found loads of crap also (mostly metal parts from sausages)

(5) Regarding a good-value-for-money detector, my colleague here (IJsbrand Galama) suggests a Garret 250:

Seems to be a good one, because it will provide a signal to distinguish between crap and useful metal

Apparently, it requires some practice, the first few times you find nothing, after some training you get better

Cheers and thank you all

Kees

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NIOZ Koninklijk Nederlands Instituut voor Zeeonderzoek

Mariene Ecologie en Evolutie (MEE)

Postbus 59, 1790 AB Den Burg

Landsdiep 4, 1797 SZ 't Horntje, Texel (direct naast de veerhaven)

E kees.camphuysen@...

T 0222 369 488

M voor intimi

F 0222 319 674

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#3868

From: "H.J. van Huffelen" <h.j.van.huffelen@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:08 pm
Subject: soortscoordinatoren voor IWSG

hjvanhuffelen

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Hello all cr-birders,
The IWSG heeft onlags een wisseling van de wacht gehad. Mark Collier has
stepped down and Henk van Huffelen tekes the reins.

The IWSG (Int Wader Study Group) is searching for dedicated coordinators
for a nearly all wader species.
The problem is the workload of all mails reported to the IWSG. We have
to take measures to keep it human.
I would like to emphasize that all ringers and observers would benefit a
good communication between observers and ringers.
That is why I put this mail in this newsgroup.
I hope to find some new species coordinators per species.
In the IWSG we are 120% active at this moment. Yesterday 50 mails were
processed. We work with 2 persons, Jannik Hansen and me.
In 2 days I found 3 new coordinators.
Please feel yourself responsible for good communication between observer
and ringer.
Your work: "adopt"  the resightings of the species and try to find the
ringer.
Report back the result: "succeeded or not succeeded."
The IWSG fully takes their responsibility for the waders as is agreed
with Euring.
Help is welcomed very much.
Hope to hear from you. Let my inbox explode!
Best wishes, Henk van Huffelen CMR Officer IWSG

#3869

From: "Pete Rock" <pete.rock@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:13 pm
Subject: RE: soortscoordinatoren voor IWSG

pete.rock@...

Dear Henk

Your point is well made. I co-ordinate the large gulls which is relatively easy in comparison to the work you do. I still receive between 0-15 mails per day. Yes, there are days when I receive NO mails! This is a voluntary post and I am pleased to do the work. However, we must all acknowledge the fact that colour-ringing schemes for all species are increasing annually – which, of course, increases the work of co-ordinators. And. Let’s not forget that there are colour-ringing schemes for a large number of species and groups of species where there are no co-ordinators at all. In this respect the work that Dirk does with the cr-birding website is brought into sharp focus – what on earth would we do without him?

Colour-ringing, as we all know, dramatically increases recovery rates (for the large gulls, for instance, recovery rates for metal alone are between 3-6%, but with colour-rings recovery rates above 60% are possible). For researchers this is a no-brainer. Why use only metal? There are two reasons: if you have plenty of money and if you intend to live for several lifetimes… Therefore, Henk, I endorse your words and encourage others to help. Within the world of colour-ringing we are all engaged in finding out important things to do with the species we study. Sometimes, those who are deeply engaged tend to forget that co-operation brings the richest rewards…

With all good wishes

Peter

Peter Rock

7, Parkside Avenue

Winterbourne

Bristol BS36 1LU

From: cr-birding@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of H.J. van Huffelen
Sent: 13 November 2009 20:09
To: Cr-Birding
Subject: [cr-birding] soortscoordinatoren voor IWSG

Hello all cr-birders,
The IWSG heeft onlags een wisseling van de wacht gehad. Mark Collier has
stepped down and Henk van Huffelen tekes the reins.

The IWSG (Int Wader Study Group) is searching for dedicated coordinators
for a nearly all wader species.
The problem is the workload of all mails reported to the IWSG. We have
to take measures to keep it human.
I would like to emphasize that all ringers and observers would benefit a
good communication between observers and ringers.
That is why I put this mail in this newsgroup.
I hope to find some new species coordinators per species.
In the IWSG we are 120% active at this moment. Yesterday 50 mails were
processed. We work with 2 persons, Jannik Hansen and me.
In 2 days I found 3 new coordinators.
Please feel yourself responsible for good communication between observer
and ringer.
Your work: "adopt" the resightings of the species and try to find the
ringer.
Report back the result: "succeeded or not succeeded."
The IWSG fully takes their responsibility for the waders as is agreed
with Euring.
Help is welcomed very much.
Hope to hear from you. Let my inbox explode!
Best wishes, Henk van Huffelen CMR Officer IWSG

#3870

From: "H.J. van Huffelen" <h.j.van.huffelen@...>
Date: Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:21 am
Subject: Re: soortscoordinatoren voor IWSG

hjvanhuffelen

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Dear Pete,
I could have known, though I didn't realise it, your were coordinator.
Of course I respect your point of keeping it to "large coordinator
gulls". I think cr-community is best served by people investing time
over more (many) years. Dirk is one of the best exemples. Stopping of
his activities would certainly lead to the "death" of cr-ringing.
You can do me a great favour still, without a great time investment, by
stimulating people to take part in coordinator activities. If you know a
wader guru who would like to do this job, please mail me.
Thank you for your part in the job (I had your help indeed last summer
with my Le Portel observations.)
We'll keep in touch!
Best wishes, Henk van Huffelen

Pete Rock schreef:
>
> Dear Henk
>
> Your point is well made. I co-ordinate the large gulls which is
> relatively easy in comparison to the work you do. I still receive
> between 0-15 mails per day. Yes, there are days when I receive NO
> mails! This is a voluntary post and I am pleased to do the work.
> However, we must all acknowledge the fact that colour-ringing schemes
> for all species are increasing annually � which, of course, increases
> the work of co-ordinators. And. Let�s not forget that there are
> colour-ringing schemes for a large number of species and groups of
> species where there are no co-ordinators at all. In this respect the
> work that Dirk does with the cr-birding website is brought into sharp
> focus � what on earth would we do without him?
>
> Colour-ringing, as we all know, dramatically increases recovery rates
> (for the large gulls, for instance, recovery rates for metal alone are
> between 3-6%, but with colour-rings recovery rates above 60% are
> possible). For researchers this is a no-brainer. Why use only metal?
> There are two reasons: if you have plenty of money and if you intend
> to live for several lifetimes� Therefore, Henk, I endorse your words
> and encourage others to help. Within the world of colour-ringing we
> are all engaged in finding out important things to do with the species
> we study. Sometimes, those who are deeply engaged tend to forget that
> co-operation brings the richest rewards�
>
> With all good wishes
>
> Peter
>
> Peter Rock
>
> 7, Parkside Avenue
>
> Winterbourne
>
> Bristol BS36 1LU
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:* cr-birding@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com]
> *On Behalf Of *H.J. van Huffelen
> *Sent:* 13 November 2009 20:09
> *To:* Cr-Birding
> *Subject:* [cr-birding] soortscoordinatoren voor IWSG
>
> Hello all cr-birders,
> The IWSG heeft onlags een wisseling van de wacht gehad. Mark Collier has
> stepped down and Henk van Huffelen tekes the reins.
>
> The IWSG (Int Wader Study Group) is searching for dedicated coordinators
> for a nearly all wader species.
> The problem is the workload of all mails reported to the IWSG. We have
> to take measures to keep it human.
> I would like to emphasize that all ringers and observers would benefit a
> good communication between observers and ringers.
> That is why I put this mail in this newsgroup.
> I hope to find some new species coordinators per species.
> In the IWSG we are 120% active at this moment. Yesterday 50 mails were
> processed. We work with 2 persons, Jannik Hansen and me.
> In 2 days I found 3 new coordinators.
> Please feel yourself responsible for good communication between observer
> and ringer.
> Your work: "adopt" the resightings of the species and try to find the
> ringer.
> Report back the result: "succeeded or not succeeded."
> The IWSG fully takes their responsibility for the waders as is agreed
> with Euring.
> Help is welcomed very much.
> Hope to hear from you. Let my inbox explode!
> Best wishes, Henk van Huffelen CMR Officer IWSG
>
>

#3871

From: Alain FOSS� <alainbfosse@...>
Date: Sat Nov 14, 2009 3:10 pm
Subject: pigeon ring on a gull?

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I saw the enclosed gull (HG I guess) with this small bright lime ring on left
tarsus (probably no ring on right tarsus, tibias not seen), [LBL;RB-;LA?;RA?]*.

Any idea?

(Peter Rock doesn't know its origin.)

Best regards.

*BTO code <http://www.btoipmr.f9.co.uk/eucmark.html>

============================================
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3 of 3 Photo(s)

lararg091112_LBL_3rw.jpg

lararg091112_LBL_1rw.jpg

lararg091112_LBL_2rw.jpg

#3872

From: James Cracknell <james@...>
Date: Sat Nov 14, 2009 3:55 pm
Subject: Re: pigeon ring on a gull? [3 Attachments]

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There are a few zoos and wildlife parks (and probably individuals) who keep gulls in captivity.� I think one of the British records of Grey-headed Gull was dismissed as an escapee from London Zoo.

2009/11/14 Alain FOSS� <alainbfosse@...>

<*>[Attachment(s) from =?iso-8859-1?Q?Alain_FOSS=C9?= included below]

I saw the enclosed gull (HG I guess) with this small bright lime ring on left tarsus (probably no ring on right tarsus, tibias not seen), [LBL;RB-;LA?;RA?]*.

<*>Attachment(s) from =?iso-8859-1?Q?Alain_FOSS=C9?=:

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�<*> lararg091112_LBL_1rw.jpg
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Any idea?

(Peter Rock doesn't know its origin.)

Best regards.

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Alain Foss� (LPO Anjou)
44, rue Barra
F-49100 ANGERS
47� 29' 5.28" N, 0� 33' 49.08" W
<alainbfosse at gmail.com>
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#3873

From: "Dirk Raes" <raesdi@...>
Date: Sat Nov 14, 2009 4:09 pm
Subject: cr-thanks , IWSG , cr-site

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Dear Peter, Dear Henk,

Dear cr-birders,

Peter wrote :

> In this respect the work that Dirk does with the cr-birding website is brought into sharp focus � what on earth would we do without him ?

Time to react, because too much glory is not good.

Soon I'l start believing this and asks a funeral service to make me as stone in the form of a colour-ring, black with white letters RIP ;-))

The past weeks were quite busy on the cr-birding newsgroup with a lot of opinions and sure overwhelming gratitude for the colour-ring birding work I did.

Thank you all for this warm appreciation ... but writing that if I'm stopping it will lead into the "death" of cr-ringing is also too much.

Peter, Henk, you always can visit the cr-stone ;-))

On the 11th. of November I have been cr-birding in Zeeland, The Netherlands and spotted a Brent Goose coded OTRK. After reading the rings, I have been talking a little bit with that bird.

It was ringed on the 13th. of July 1995 at Isvestiya Troynoy, Russia and that's exact 2 months before I started with the European colour-ring Birding website.

The bird asked me to continue with the European colour-ring Birding website because otherwise it should be never been reported anymore and therefore get lost.

So, dear cr-birders, I will continue with the website.

The past week a lot happened and several positive reactions ref. 'working together' arrive into my/our mailbox.

Henk, Berend, James, Peter and all the others ... the cr-world has sure new perspectives and a bright future.

best greetings,

Dirk

ps 1.: the names of several coordinators are available on my website and the coming week names will be updated due to a very close mailing-contact with Henk.

ps 2.: Peter R., the past night wild boar again in my prairie. That means another Belgian beer ;-))

European colour-ring Birding on www.cr-birding.be
a different way of birding.

>>>>>>>>

----- Original Message -----

From: "H.J. van Huffelen" <h.j.van.huffelen@...>

To: <cr-birding@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 12:21 PM

Subject: Re: [cr-birding] soortscoordinatoren voor IWSG

Dear Pete,
I could have known, though I didn't realise it, your were coordinator.
Of course I respect your point of keeping it to "large coordinator
gulls". I think cr-community is best served by people investing time
over more (many) years. Dirk is one of the best exemples. Stopping of
his activities would certainly lead to the "death" of cr-ringing.
You can do me a great favour still, without a great time investment, by
stimulating people to take part in coordinator activities. If you know a
wader guru who would like to do this job, please mail me.
Thank you for your part in the job (I had your help indeed last summer
with my Le Portel observations.)
We'll keep in touch!
Best wishes, Henk van Huffelen

Pete Rock schreef:
>
> Dear Henk
>
> Your point is well made. I co-ordinate the large gulls which is
> relatively easy in comparison to the work you do. I still receive
> between 0-15 mails per day. Yes, there are days when I receive NO
> mails! This is a voluntary post and I am pleased to do the work.
> However, we must all acknowledge the fact that colour-ringing schemes
> for all species are increasing annually � which, of course, increases
> the work of co-ordinators. And. Let�s not forget that there are
> colour-ringing schemes for a large number of species and groups of
> species where there are no co-ordinators at all. In this respect the
> work that Dirk does with the cr-birding website is brought into sharp
> focus � what on earth would we do without him?
>
> Colour-ringing, as we all know, dramatically increases recovery rates
> (for the large gulls, for instance, recovery rates for metal alone are
> between 3-6%, but with colour-rings recovery rates above 60% are
> possible). For researchers this is a no-brainer. Why use only metal?
> There are two reasons: if you have plenty of money and if you intend
> to live for several lifetimes� Therefore, Henk, I endorse your words
> and encourage others to help. Within the world of colour-ringing we
> are all engaged in finding out important things to do with the species
> we study. Sometimes, those who are deeply engaged tend to forget that
> co-operation brings the richest rewards�
>
> With all good wishes
>
> Peter
>
> Peter Rock
>
> 7, Parkside Avenue
>
> Winterbourne
>
> Bristol BS36 1LU
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:* cr-birding@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com]
> *On Behalf Of *H.J. van Huffelen
> *Sent:* 13 November 2009 20:09
> *To:* Cr-Birding
> *Subject:* [cr-birding] soortscoordinatoren voor IWSG
>
> Hello all cr-birders,
> The IWSG heeft onlags een wisseling van de wacht gehad. Mark Collier has
> stepped down and Henk van Huffelen tekes the reins.
>
> The IWSG (Int Wader Study Group) is searching for dedicated coordinators
> for a nearly all wader species.
> The problem is the workload of all mails reported to the IWSG. We have
> to take measures to keep it human.
> I would like to emphasize that all ringers and observers would benefit a
> good communication between observers and ringers.
> That is why I put this mail in this newsgroup.
> I hope to find some new species coordinators per species.
> In the IWSG we are 120% active at this moment. Yesterday 50 mails were
> processed. We work with 2 persons, Jannik Hansen and me.
> In 2 days I found 3 new coordinators.
> Please feel yourself responsible for good communication between observer
> and ringer.
> Your work: "adopt" the resightings of the species and try to find the
> ringer.
> Report back the result: "succeeded or not succeeded."
> The IWSG fully takes their responsibility for the waders as is agreed
> with Euring.
> Help is welcomed very much.
> Hope to hear from you. Let my inbox explode!
> Best wishes, Henk van Huffelen CMR Officer IWSG
>
>

------------------------------------

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#3874

From: "Pete Rock" <pete.rock@...>
Date: Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:07 pm
Subject: RE: cr-thanks , IWSG , cr-site

pete.rock@...

OK, Dirk… That’s enough glory! Back to earth – I will try to offer a scheme with black rings showing white letters so that RIP will be possible!

With all good wishes

Peter

Peter Rock

7, Parkside Avenue

Winterbourne

Bristol BS36 1LU

From: cr-birding@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dirk Raes
Sent: 14 November 2009 16:10
To: cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [cr-birding] cr-thanks , IWSG , cr-site

Dear Peter, Dear Henk,

Dear cr-birders,

Peter wrote :

> In this respect the work that Dirk does with the cr-birding website is brought into sharp focus – what on earth would we do without him ?

Time to react, because too much glory is not good.

Soon I'l start believing this and asks a funeral service to make me as stone in the form of a colour-ring, black with white letters RIP ;-))

The past weeks were quite busy on the cr-birding newsgroup with a lot of opinions and sure overwhelming gratitude for the colour-ring birding work I did.

Thank you all for this warm appreciation ... but writing that if I'm stopping it will lead into the "death" of cr-ringing is also too much.

Peter, Henk, you always can visit the cr-stone ;-))

On the 11th. of November I have been cr-birding in Zeeland, The Netherlands and spotted a Brent Goose coded OTRK. After reading the rings, I have been talking a little bit with that bird.

It was ringed on the 13th. of July 1995 at Isvestiya Troynoy, Russia and that's exact 2 months before I started with the European colour-ring Birding website.

The bird asked me to continue with the European colour-ring Birding website because otherwise it should be never been reported anymore and therefore get lost.

So, dear cr-birders, I will continue with the website.

The past week a lot happened and several positive reactions ref. 'working together' arrive into my/our mailbox.

Henk, Berend, James, Peter and all the others ... the cr-world has sure new perspectives and a bright future.

best greetings,

Dirk

ps 1.: the names of several coordinators are available on my website and the coming week names will be updated due to a very close mailing-contact with Henk.

ps 2.: Peter R., the past night wild boar again in my prairie. That means another Belgian beer ;-))

European colour-ring Birding on www.cr-birding.be
a different way of birding.

>>>>>>>>

----- Original Message -----

From: "H.J. van Huffelen" <h.j.van.huffelen@planet.nl>

To: <cr-birding@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 12:21 PM

Subject: Re: [cr-birding] soortscoordinatoren voor IWSG

Dear Pete,
I could have known, though I didn't realise it, your were coordinator.
Of course I respect your point of keeping it to "large coordinator
gulls". I think cr-community is best served by people investing time
over more (many) years. Dirk is one of the best exemples. Stopping of
his activities would certainly lead to the "death" of cr-ringing.
You can do me a great favour still, without a great time investment, by
stimulating people to take part in coordinator activities. If you know a
wader guru who would like to do this job, please mail me.
Thank you for your part in the job (I had your help indeed last summer
with my Le Portel observations.)
We'll keep in touch!
Best wishes, Henk van Huffelen

Pete Rock schreef:
>
> Dear Henk
>
> Your point is well made. I co-ordinate the large gulls which is
> relatively easy in comparison to the work you do. I still receive
> between 0-15 mails per day. Yes, there are days when I receive NO
> mails! This is a voluntary post and I am pleased to do the work.
> However, we must all acknowledge the fact that colour-ringing schemes
> for all species are increasing annually – which, of course, increases
> the work of co-ordinators. And. Let’s not forget that there are
> colour-ringing schemes for a large number of species and groups of
> species where there are no co-ordinators at all. In this respect the
> work that Dirk does with the cr-birding website is brought into sharp
> focus – what on earth would we do without him?
>
> Colour-ringing, as we all know, dramatically increases recovery rates
> (for the large gulls, for instance, recovery rates for metal alone are
> between 3-6%, but with colour-rings recovery rates above 60% are
> possible). For researchers this is a no-brainer. Why use only metal?
> There are two reasons: if you have plenty of money and if you intend
> to live for several lifetimes… Therefore, Henk, I endorse your words
> and encourage others to help. Within the world of colour-ringing we
> are all engaged in finding out important things to do with the species
> we study. Sometimes, those who are deeply engaged tend to forget that
> co-operation brings the richest rewards…
>
> With all good wishes
>
> Peter
>
> Peter Rock
>
> 7, Parkside Avenue
>
> Winterbourne
>
> Bristol BS36 1LU
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:* cr-birding@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com]
> *On Behalf Of *H.J. van Huffelen
> *Sent:* 13 November 2009 20:09
> *To:* Cr-Birding
> *Subject:* [cr-birding] soortscoordinatoren voor IWSG
>
> Hello all cr-birders,
> The IWSG heeft onlags een wisseling van de wacht gehad. Mark Collier has
> stepped down and Henk van Huffelen tekes the reins.
>
> The IWSG (Int Wader Study Group) is searching for dedicated coordinators
> for a nearly all wader species.
> The problem is the workload of all mails reported to the IWSG. We have
> to take measures to keep it human.
> I would like to emphasize that all ringers and observers would benefit a
> good communication between observers and ringers.
> That is why I put this mail in this newsgroup.
> I hope to find some new species coordinators per species.
> In the IWSG we are 120% active at this moment. Yesterday 50 mails were
> processed. We work with 2 persons, Jannik Hansen and me.
> In 2 days I found 3 new coordinators.
> Please feel yourself responsible for good communication between observer
> and ringer.
> Your work: "adopt" the resightings of the species and try to find the
> ringer.
> Report back the result: "succeeded or not succeeded."
> The IWSG fully takes their responsibility for the waders as is agreed
> with Euring.
> Help is welcomed very much.
> Hope to hear from you. Let my inbox explode!
> Best wishes, Henk van Huffelen CMR Officer IWSG
>
>

------------------------------------

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#3875

From: "H.J. van Huffelen" <h.j.van.huffelen@...>
Date: Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:32 pm
Subject: Re: cr-thanks , IWSG , cr-site

hjvanhuffelen

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Back to earth? Lets dance and read rings!
Henk van Huffelen

Pete Rock schreef:
>
> OK, Dirk� That�s enough glory! Back to earth � I will try to offer a
> scheme with black rings showing white letters so that RIP will be
> possible!
>
> With all good wishes
>
> Peter
>
> Peter Rock
>
> 7, Parkside Avenue
>
> Winterbourne
>
> Bristol BS36 1LU
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:* cr-birding@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com]
> *On Behalf Of *Dirk Raes
> *Sent:* 14 November 2009 16:10
> *To:* cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* [cr-birding] cr-thanks , IWSG , cr-site
>
> Dear Peter, Dear Henk,
>
> Dear cr-birders,
>
> Peter wrote :
>
> > **In this respect the work that Dirk does with the cr-birding website
> is brought into sharp focus � what on earth would we do without him ?**
>
> Time to react, because too much glory is not good.
>
> Soon I'l start believing this and asks a funeral service to make me as
> stone in the form of a colour-ring, black with white letters **RIP** ;-))
>
> The past weeks were quite busy on the cr-birding newsgroup with a lot
> of opinions and sure overwhelming gratitude for the colour-ring
> birding work I did.
>
> Thank you all for this warm appreciation ... but writing that if I'm
> stopping it will lead into the "death" of cr-ringing is also too much.
>
> Peter, Henk, you always can visit the cr-stone ;-))
>
> On the 11th. of November I have been cr-birding in Zeeland, The
> Netherlands and spotted a Brent Goose coded OTRK. After reading the
> rings, I have been talking a little bit with that bird.
>
> It was ringed on the 13th. of July 1995 at Isvestiya Troynoy, Russia
> and that's exact 2 months before I started with the European
> colour-ring Birding website.
>
> The bird asked me to continue with the European colour-ring Birding
> website because otherwise it should be never been reported anymore and
> therefore get lost.
>
> So, dear cr-birders, I will continue with the website.
>
> The past week a lot happened and several positive reactions //ref.//
> 'working together' arrive into my/our mailbox.
>
> Henk, Berend, James, Peter and all the others ... the cr-world has
> sure new perspectives and a bright future.
>
> best greetings,
>
> Dirk
>
> ps 1.: the names of several coordinators are available on my website
> and the coming week names will be updated due to a very close
> mailing-contact with Henk.
>
> ps 2.: Peter R., the past night wild boar again in my prairie. That
> means another Belgian beer ;-))
>
>
> //European colour-ring Birding on ////www.cr-birding.be//
> <http://www.cr-birding.be>
> //a different way of birding. //
>
> >>>>>>>>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "H.J. van Huffelen" <h.j.van.huffelen@...
> <mailto:h.j.van.huffelen@...>>
>
> To: <cr-birding@yahoogroups.com <mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com>>
>
> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 12:21 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [cr-birding] soortscoordinatoren voor IWSG
>
> Dear Pete,
> I could have known, though I didn't realise it, your were coordinator.
> Of course I respect your point of keeping it to "large coordinator
> gulls". I think cr-community is best served by people investing time
> over more (many) years. Dirk is one of the best exemples. Stopping of
> his activities would certainly lead to the "death" of cr-ringing.
> You can do me a great favour still, without a great time investment, by
> stimulating people to take part in coordinator activities. If you know a
> wader guru who would like to do this job, please mail me.
> Thank you for your part in the job (I had your help indeed last summer
> with my Le Portel observations.)
> We'll keep in touch!
> Best wishes, Henk van Huffelen
>
> Pete Rock schreef:
> >
> > Dear Henk
> >
> > Your point is well made. I co-ordinate the large gulls which is
> > relatively easy in comparison to the work you do. I still receive
> > between 0-15 mails per day. Yes, there are days when I receive NO
> > mails! This is a voluntary post and I am pleased to do the work.
> > However, we must all acknowledge the fact that colour-ringing schemes
> > for all species are increasing annually � which, of course, increases
> > the work of co-ordinators. And. Let�s not forget that there are
> > colour-ringing schemes for a large number of species and groups of
> > species where there are no co-ordinators at all. In this respect the
> > work that Dirk does with the cr-birding website is brought into sharp
> > focus � what on earth would we do without him?
> >
> > Colour-ringing, as we all know, dramatically increases recovery rates
> > (for the large gulls, for instance, recovery rates for metal alone are
> > between 3-6%, but with colour-rings recovery rates above 60% are
> > possible). For researchers this is a no-brainer. Why use only metal?
> > There are two reasons: if you have plenty of money and if you intend
> > to live for several lifetimes� Therefore, Henk, I endorse your words
> > and encourage others to help. Within the world of colour-ringing we
> > are all engaged in finding out important things to do with the species
> > we study. Sometimes, those who are deeply engaged tend to forget that
> > co-operation brings the richest rewards�
> >
> > With all good wishes
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > Peter Rock
> >
> > 7, Parkside Avenue
> >
> > Winterbourne
> >
> > Bristol BS36 1LU
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > *From:* cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com]
> > *On Behalf Of *H.J. van Huffelen
> > *Sent:* 13 November 2009 20:09
> > *To:* Cr-Birding
> > *Subject:* [cr-birding] soortscoordinatoren voor IWSG
> >
> > Hello all cr-birders,
> > The IWSG heeft onlags een wisseling van de wacht gehad. Mark Collier has
> > stepped down and Henk van Huffelen tekes the reins.
> >
> > The IWSG (Int Wader Study Group) is searching for dedicated coordinators
> > for a nearly all wader species.
> > The problem is the workload of all mails reported to the IWSG. We have
> > to take measures to keep it human.
> > I would like to emphasize that all ringers and observers would benefit a
> > good communication between observers and ringers.
> > That is why I put this mail in this newsgroup.
> > I hope to find some new species coordinators per species.
> > In the IWSG we are 120% active at this moment. Yesterday 50 mails were
> > processed. We work with 2 persons, Jannik Hansen and me.
> > In 2 days I found 3 new coordinators.
> > Please feel yourself responsible for good communication between observer
> > and ringer.
> > Your work: "adopt" the resightings of the species and try to find the
> > ringer.
> > Report back the result: "succeeded or not succeeded."
> > The IWSG fully takes their responsibility for the waders as is agreed
> > with Euring.
> > Help is welcomed very much.
> > Hope to hear from you. Let my inbox explode!
> > Best wishes, Henk van Huffelen CMR Officer IWSG
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Please don't forget to check "European colour-ring projects" (Dirk
> Raes website):
> http://www.cr-birding.be/ <http://www.cr-birding.be/> before asking!
>
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#3876

From: "Pete Rock" <pete.rock@...>
Date: Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:56 pm
Subject: RE: cr-thanks , IWSG , cr-site

pete.rock@...

Dear Henk

I have often thought that the wader watching fraternity is somewhat idiosyncratic, but thinking of you dancing when you are reading colour-rings does stretch the imagination!

With all good wishes

Peter

Peter Rock

7, Parkside Avenue

Winterbourne

Bristol BS36 1LU

-----Original Message-----
From: cr-birding@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of H.J. van Huffelen
Sent: 14 November 2009 22:33
To: cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [cr-birding] cr-thanks , IWSG , cr-site

Back to earth? Lets dance and read rings!

Henk van Huffelen

Pete Rock schreef:

> OK, Dirk… That’s enough glory! Back to earth – I will try to offer a

> scheme with black rings showing white letters so that RIP will be

> possible!

> With all good wishes

> Peter

> Peter Rock

> 7, Parkside Avenue

> Winterbourne

> Bristol BS36 1LU

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> *From:* cr-birding@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com]

> *On Behalf Of *Dirk Raes

> *Sent:* 14 November 2009 16:10

> *To:* cr-birding@yahoogroups.com

> *Subject:* [cr-birding] cr-thanks , IWSG , cr-site

> Dear Peter, Dear Henk,

> Dear cr-birders,

> Peter wrote :

> > **In this respect the work that Dirk does with the cr-birding website

> is brought into sharp focus – what on earth would we do without him ?**

> Time to react, because too much glory is not good.

> Soon I'l start believing this and asks a funeral service to make me as

> stone in the form of a colour-ring, black with white letters **RIP** ;-))

> The past weeks were quite busy on the cr-birding newsgroup with a lot

> of opinions and sure overwhelming gratitude for the colour-ring

> birding work I did.

> Thank you all for this warm appreciation ... but writing that if I'm

> stopping it will lead into the "death" of cr-ringing is also too much.

> Peter, Henk, you always can visit the cr-stone ;-))

> On the 11th. of November I have been cr-birding in Zeeland, The

> Netherlands and spotted a Brent Goose coded OTRK. After reading the

> rings, I have been talking a little bit with that bird.

> It was ringed on the 13th. of July 1995 at Isvestiya Troynoy, Russia

> and that's exact 2 months before I started with the European

> colour-ring Birding website.

> The bird asked me to continue with the European colour-ring Birding

> website because otherwise it should be never been reported anymore and

> therefore get lost.

> So, dear cr-birders, I will continue with the website.

> The past week a lot happened and several positive reactions //ref.//

> 'working together' arrive into my/our mailbox.

> Henk, Berend, James, Peter and all the others ... the cr-world has

> sure new perspectives and a bright future.

> best greetings,

> Dirk

> ps 1.: the names of several coordinators are available on my website

> and the coming week names will be updated due to a very close

> mailing-contact with Henk.

> ps 2.: Peter R., the past night wild boar again in my prairie. That

> means another Belgian beer ;-))

> //European colour-ring Birding on ////www.cr-birding.be//

> <http://www.cr-birding.be>

> //a different way of birding. //

> >>>>>>>>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "H.J. van Huffelen" <h.j.van.huffelen@...

> <mailto:h.j.van.huffelen@...>>

> To: <cr-birding@yahoogroups.com <mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com>>

> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 12:21 PM

> Subject: Re: [cr-birding] soortscoordinatoren voor IWSG

> Dear Pete,

> I could have known, though I didn't realise it, your were coordinator.

> Of course I respect your point of keeping it to "large coordinator

> gulls". I think cr-community is best served by people investing time

> over more (many) years. Dirk is one of the best exemples. Stopping of

> his activities would certainly lead to the "death" of cr-ringing.

> You can do me a great favour still, without a great time investment, by

> stimulating people to take part in coordinator activities. If you know a

> wader guru who would like to do this job, please mail me.

> Thank you for your part in the job (I had your help indeed last summer

> with my Le Portel observations.)

> We'll keep in touch!

> Best wishes, Henk van Huffelen

> Pete Rock schreef:

> >

> > Dear Henk

> >

> > Your point is well made. I co-ordinate the large gulls which is

> > relatively easy in comparison to the work you do. I still receive

> > between 0-15 mails per day. Yes, there are days when I receive NO

> > mails! This is a voluntary post and I am pleased to do the work.

> > However, we must all acknowledge the fact that colour-ringing schemes

> > for all species are increasing annually – which, of course, increases

> > the work of co-ordinators. And. Let’s not forget that there are

> > colour-ringing schemes for a large number of species and groups of

> > species where there are no co-ordinators at all. In this respect the

> > work that Dirk does with the cr-birding website is brought into sharp

> > focus – what on earth would we do without him?

> >

> > Colour-ringing, as we all know, dramatically increases recovery rates

> > (for the large gulls, for instance, recovery rates for metal alone are

> > between 3-6%, but with colour-rings recovery rates above 60% are

> > possible). For researchers this is a no-brainer. Why use only metal?

> > There are two reasons: if you have plenty of money and if you intend

> > to live for several lifetimes… Therefore, Henk, I endorse your words

> > and encourage others to help. Within the world of colour-ringing we

> > are all engaged in finding out important things to do with the species

> > we study. Sometimes, those who are deeply engaged tend to forget that

> > co-operation brings the richest rewards…

> >

> > With all good wishes

> >

> > Peter

> >

> > Peter Rock

> >

> > 7, Parkside Avenue

> >

> > Winterbourne

> >

> > Bristol BS36 1LU

> >

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> >

> > *From:* cr-birding@yahoogroups.com

> <mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com]

> > *On Behalf Of *H.J. van Huffelen

> > *Sent:* 13 November 2009 20:09

> > *To:* Cr-Birding

> > *Subject:* [cr-birding] soortscoordinatoren voor IWSG

> >

> > Hello all cr-birders,

> > The IWSG heeft onlags een wisseling van de wacht gehad. Mark Collier has

> > stepped down and Henk van Huffelen tekes the reins.

> >

> > The IWSG (Int Wader Study Group) is searching for dedicated coordinators

> > for a nearly all wader species.

> > The problem is the workload of all mails reported to the IWSG. We have

> > to take measures to keep it human.

> > I would like to emphasize that all ringers and observers would benefit a

> > good communication between observers and ringers.

> > That is why I put this mail in this newsgroup.

> > I hope to find some new species coordinators per species.

> > In the IWSG we are 120% active at this moment. Yesterday 50 mails were

> > processed. We work with 2 persons, Jannik Hansen and me.

> > In 2 days I found 3 new coordinators.

> > Please feel yourself responsible for good communication between observer

> > and ringer.

> > Your work: "adopt" the resightings of the species and try to find the

> > ringer.

> > Report back the result: "succeeded or not succeeded."

> > The IWSG fully takes their responsibility for the waders as is agreed

> > with Euring.

> > Help is welcomed very much.

> > Hope to hear from you. Let my inbox explode!

> > Best wishes, Henk van Huffelen CMR Officer IWSG

> >

> ------------------------------------

> Please don't forget to check "European colour-ring projects" (Dirk

> Raes website):

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#3877

From: "H.J. van Huffelen" <h.j.van.huffelen@...>
Date: Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:05 pm
Subject: Re: cr-thanks , IWSG , cr-site

hjvanhuffelen

Offline

Dear Pete,
I will give a large, silent reaction:
.......
......
......
.....
.....
....
.....
....
and hope that common sense will solve the problems in cr-waders (and
other birdgroups)
Now I go to bed. Tomorrow new challenges ;)
Henk









Pete Rock schreef:
>
> Dear Henk
>
> I have often thought that the wader watching fraternity is somewhat
> idiosyncratic, but thinking of you dancing when you are reading
> colour-rings does stretch the imagination!
>
> With all good wishes
>
> Peter
>
> Peter Rock
>
> 7, Parkside Avenue
>
> Winterbourne
>
> Bristol BS36 1LU
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cr-birding@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of H.J. van Huffelen
> Sent: 14 November 2009 22:33
> To: cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [cr-birding] cr-thanks , IWSG , cr-site
>
> Back to earth? Lets dance and read rings!
>
> Henk van Huffelen
>
> Pete Rock schreef:
>
> >
>
> > OK, Dirk� That�s enough glory! Back to earth � I will try to offer a
>
> > scheme with black rings showing white letters so that RIP will be
>
> > possible!
>
> >
>
> > With all good wishes
>
> >
>
> > Peter
>
> >
>
> > Peter Rock
>
> >
>
> > 7, Parkside Avenue
>
> >
>
> > Winterbourne
>
> >
>
> > Bristol BS36 1LU
>
> >
>
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> >
>
> > *From:* cr-birding@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com]
>
> > *On Behalf Of *Dirk Raes
>
> > *Sent:* 14 November 2009 16:10
>
> > *To:* cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
>
> > *Subject:* [cr-birding] cr-thanks , IWSG , cr-site
>
> >
>
> > Dear Peter, Dear Henk,
>
> >
>
> > Dear cr-birders,
>
> >
>
> > Peter wrote :
>
> >
>
> > > **In this respect the work that Dirk does with the cr-birding website
>
> > is brought into sharp focus � what on earth would we do without him ?**
>
> >
>
> > Time to react, because too much glory is not good.
>
> >
>
> > Soon I'l start believing this and asks a funeral service to make me as
>
> > stone in the form of a colour-ring, black with white letters **RIP** ;-))
>
> >
>
> > The past weeks were quite busy on the cr-birding newsgroup with a lot
>
> > of opinions and sure overwhelming gratitude for the colour-ring
>
> > birding work I did.
>
> >
>
> > Thank you all for this warm appreciation ... but writing that if I'm
>
> > stopping it will lead into the "death" of cr-ringing is also too much.
>
> >
>
> > Peter, Henk, you always can visit the cr-stone ;-))
>
> >
>
> > On the 11th. of November I have been cr-birding in Zeeland, The
>
> > Netherlands and spotted a Brent Goose coded OTRK. After reading the
>
> > rings, I have been talking a little bit with that bird.
>
> >
>
> > It was ringed on the 13th. of July 1995 at Isvestiya Troynoy, Russia
>
> > and that's exact 2 months before I started with the European
>
> > colour-ring Birding website.
>
> >
>
> > The bird asked me to continue with the European colour-ring Birding
>
> > website because otherwise it should be never been reported anymore and
>
> > therefore get lost.
>
> >
>
> > So, dear cr-birders, I will continue with the website.
>
> >
>
> > The past week a lot happened and several positive reactions //ref.//
>
> > 'working together' arrive into my/our mailbox.
>
> >
>
> > Henk, Berend, James, Peter and all the others ... the cr-world has
>
> > sure new perspectives and a bright future.
>
> >
>
> > best greetings,
>
> >
>
> > Dirk
>
> >
>
> > ps 1.: the names of several coordinators are available on my website
>
> > and the coming week names will be updated due to a very close
>
> > mailing-contact with Henk.
>
> >
>
> > ps 2.: Peter R., the past night wild boar again in my prairie. That
>
> > means another Belgian beer ;-))
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > //European colour-ring Birding on ////www.cr-birding.be//
>
> > <http://www.cr-birding.be>
>
> > //a different way of birding. //
>
> >
>
> > >>>>>>>>
>
> >
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
>
> >
>
> > From: "H.J. van Huffelen" <h.j.van.huffelen@...
>
> > <mailto:h.j.van.huffelen@...>>
>
> >
>
> > To: <cr-birding@yahoogroups.com <mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com>>
>
> >
>
> > Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 12:21 PM
>
> >
>
> > Subject: Re: [cr-birding] soortscoordinatoren voor IWSG
>
> >
>
> > Dear Pete,
>
> > I could have known, though I didn't realise it, your were coordinator.
>
> > Of course I respect your point of keeping it to "large coordinator
>
> > gulls". I think cr-community is best served by people investing time
>
> > over more (many) years. Dirk is one of the best exemples. Stopping of
>
> > his activities would certainly lead to the "death" of cr-ringing.
>
> > You can do me a great favour still, without a great time investment, by
>
> > stimulating people to take part in coordinator activities. If you know a
>
> > wader guru who would like to do this job, please mail me.
>
> > Thank you for your part in the job (I had your help indeed last summer
>
> > with my Le Portel observations.)
>
> > We'll keep in touch!
>
> > Best wishes, Henk van Huffelen
>
> >
>
> > Pete Rock schreef:
>
> > >
>
> > > Dear Henk
>
> > >
>
> > > Your point is well made. I co-ordinate the large gulls which is
>
> > > relatively easy in comparison to the work you do. I still receive
>
> > > between 0-15 mails per day. Yes, there are days when I receive NO
>
> > > mails! This is a voluntary post and I am pleased to do the work.
>
> > > However, we must all acknowledge the fact that colour-ringing schemes
>
> > > for all species are increasing annually � which, of course, increases
>
> > > the work of co-ordinators. And. Let�s not forget that there are
>
> > > colour-ringing schemes for a large number of species and groups of
>
> > > species where there are no co-ordinators at all. In this respect the
>
> > > work that Dirk does with the cr-birding website is brought into sharp
>
> > > focus � what on earth would we do without him?
>
> > >
>
> > > Colour-ringing, as we all know, dramatically increases recovery rates
>
> > > (for the large gulls, for instance, recovery rates for metal alone are
>
> > > between 3-6%, but with colour-rings recovery rates above 60% are
>
> > > possible). For researchers this is a no-brainer. Why use only metal?
>
> > > There are two reasons: if you have plenty of money and if you intend
>
> > > to live for several lifetimes� Therefore, Henk, I endorse your words
>
> > > and encourage others to help. Within the world of colour-ringing we
>
> > > are all engaged in finding out important things to do with the species
>
> > > we study. Sometimes, those who are deeply engaged tend to forget that
>
> > > co-operation brings the richest rewards�
>
> > >
>
> > > With all good wishes
>
> > >
>
> > > Peter
>
> > >
>
> > > Peter Rock
>
> > >
>
> > > 7, Parkside Avenue
>
> > >
>
> > > Winterbourne
>
> > >
>
> > > Bristol BS36 1LU
>
> > >
>
> > >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > >
>
> > > *From:* cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
>
> > <mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com]
>
> > > *On Behalf Of *H.J. van Huffelen
>
> > > *Sent:* 13 November 2009 20:09
>
> > > *To:* Cr-Birding
>
> > > *Subject:* [cr-birding] soortscoordinatoren voor IWSG
>
> > >
>
> > > Hello all cr-birders,
>
> > > The IWSG heeft onlags een wisseling van de wacht gehad. Mark
> Collier has
>
> > > stepped down and Henk van Huffelen tekes the reins.
>
> > >
>
> > > The IWSG (Int Wader Study Group) is searching for dedicated
> coordinators
>
> > > for a nearly all wader species.
>
> > > The problem is the workload of all mails reported to the IWSG. We have
>
> > > to take measures to keep it human.
>
> > > I would like to emphasize that all ringers and observers would
> benefit a
>
> > > good communication between observers and ringers.
>
> > > That is why I put this mail in this newsgroup.
>
> > > I hope to find some new species coordinators per species.
>
> > > In the IWSG we are 120% active at this moment. Yesterday 50 mails were
>
> > > processed. We work with 2 persons, Jannik Hansen and me.
>
> > > In 2 days I found 3 new coordinators.
>
> > > Please feel yourself responsible for good communication between
> observer
>
> > > and ringer.
>
> > > Your work: "adopt" the resightings of the species and try to find the
>
> > > ringer.
>
> > > Report back the result: "succeeded or not succeeded."
>
> > > The IWSG fully takes their responsibility for the waders as is agreed
>
> > > with Euring.
>
> > > Help is welcomed very much.
>
> > > Hope to hear from you. Let my inbox explode!
>
> > > Best wishes, Henk van Huffelen CMR Officer IWSG
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > ------------------------------------
>
> >
>
> > Please don't forget to check "European colour-ring projects" (Dirk
>
> > Raes website):
>
> > http://www.cr-birding.be/ <http://www.cr-birding.be/> before asking!
>
> >
>
> > Report a ring on
>
> > http://blx1.bto.org/euring/main/index.jspYahoo
>
> > <http://blx1.bto.org/euring/main/index.jspYahoo>! Groups Links
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > (Yahoo! ID required)
>
> >
>
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> > <mailto:cr-birding-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com>
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
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> >
>
> >
>
> ------------------------------------
>
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> Raes website):
>
> http://www.cr-birding.be/ before asking!
>
> Report a ring on
>
> www.ring.ac
>
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#3878

From: M Lancaster <mbl.tenbel@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 5:20 am
Subject: Re: pigeon ring on a gull? [3 Attachments]

kt151tb

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I have seen at least one gull with similar sized rings and no metal ring. It was I believe a Lesser Black-backed Gull on Tenerife. If I recall correctly, it had two same colour rings on the same leg - thus appearing somewhat larger than the ring on this individual. Actually, this bird looks like a LBB to me - tertial pattern??

Barry

M B Lancaster
Currently, Addlestone UK

----- Original Message -----

From: Alain FOSS�

To: cr-birding@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 3:10 PM

Subject: [cr-birding] pigeon ring on a gull? [3 Attachments]

I saw the enclosed gull (HG I guess) with this small bright lime ring on left tarsus (probably no ring on right tarsus, tibias not seen), [LBL;RB-;LA?;RA?]*.

Any idea?

(Peter Rock doesn't know its origin.)

Best regards.

*BTO code <http://www.btoipmr.f9.co.uk/eucmark.html>

============================================
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44, rue Barra
F-49100 ANGERS
47� 29' 5.28" N, 0� 33' 49.08" W
<alainbfosse at gmail.com>
Web Site LPO Anjou<http://www.lpo-anjou.org/baguage/baguage.htm>
My digiscoping
<http://www.digimages.info/>
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============================================

#3879

From: marco basso <marcobassopd@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:26 pm
Subject: Re: cr-thanks , IWSG , cr-site

marcobassopd

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happy to be into this list!
;-)
m

Marco Basso
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Please consider the environment. Print this mail only if necessary


--- Dom 15/11/09, H.J. van Huffelen <h.j.van.huffelen@...> ha scritto:

> Da: H.J. van Huffelen <h.j.van.huffelen@...>
> Oggetto: Re: [cr-birding] cr-thanks , IWSG , cr-site
> A: cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
> Data: Domenica 15 novembre 2009, 00:05
> Dear Pete,
> I will give a large, silent reaction:
> .......
> ......
> ......
> .....
> .....
> ....
> .....
> ....
> and hope that common sense will solve the problems in
> cr-waders (and
> other birdgroups)
> Now I go to bed. Tomorrow new challenges ;)
> Henk
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Pete Rock schreef:
> >
> > Dear Henk
> >
> > I have often thought that the wader watching
> fraternity is somewhat
> > idiosyncratic, but thinking of you dancing when you
> are reading
> > colour-rings does stretch the imagination!
> >
> > With all good wishes
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > Peter Rock
> >
> > 7, Parkside Avenue
> >
> > Winterbourne
> >
> > Bristol BS36 1LU
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com]
>
> > On Behalf Of H.J. van Huffelen
> > Sent: 14 November 2009 22:33
> > To: cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [cr-birding] cr-thanks , IWSG , cr-site
> >
> > Back to earth? Lets dance and read rings!
> >
> > Henk van Huffelen
> >
> > Pete Rock schreef:
> >
> > >
> >
> > > OK, Dirk… That’s enough glory! Back to earth
> – I will try to offer a
> >
> > > scheme with black rings showing white letters so
> that RIP will be
> >
> > > possible!
> >
> > >
> >
> > > With all good wishes
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Peter
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Peter Rock
> >
> > >
> >
> > > 7, Parkside Avenue
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Winterbourne
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Bristol BS36 1LU
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > >
> >
> > > *From:* cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com]
> >
> > > *On Behalf Of *Dirk Raes
> >
> > > *Sent:* 14 November 2009 16:10
> >
> > > *To:* cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > *Subject:* [cr-birding] cr-thanks , IWSG ,
> cr-site
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Dear Peter, Dear Henk,
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Dear cr-birders,
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Peter wrote :
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > **In this respect the work that Dirk does
> with the cr-birding website
> >
> > > is brought into sharp focus – what on earth
> would we do without him ?**
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Time to react, because too much glory is not
> good.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Soon I'l start believing this and asks a funeral
> service to make me as
> >
> > > stone in the form of a colour-ring, black with
> white letters **RIP** ;-))
> >
> > >
> >
> > > The past weeks were quite busy on the cr-birding
> newsgroup with a lot
> >
> > > of opinions and sure overwhelming gratitude for
> the colour-ring
> >
> > > birding work I did.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Thank you all for this warm appreciation ... but
> writing that if I'm
> >
> > > stopping it will lead into the "death" of
> cr-ringing is also too much.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Peter, Henk, you always can visit the cr-stone
> ;-))
> >
> > >
> >
> > > On the 11th. of November I have been cr-birding
> in Zeeland, The
> >
> > > Netherlands and spotted a Brent Goose coded OTRK.
> After reading the
> >
> > > rings, I have been talking a little bit with that
> bird.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > It was ringed on the 13th. of July 1995 at
> Isvestiya Troynoy, Russia
> >
> > > and that's exact 2 months before I started with
> the European
> >
> > > colour-ring Birding website.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > The bird asked me to continue with the European
> colour-ring Birding
> >
> > > website because otherwise it should be never been
> reported anymore and
> >
> > > therefore get lost.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > So, dear cr-birders, I will continue with the
> website.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > The past week a lot happened and several positive
> reactions //ref.//
> >
> > > 'working together' arrive into my/our mailbox.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Henk, Berend, James, Peter and all the others ...
> the cr-world has
> >
> > > sure new perspectives and a bright future.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > best greetings,
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Dirk
> >
> > >
> >
> > > ps 1.: the names of several coordinators are
> available on my website
> >
> > > and the coming week names will be updated due to
> a very close
> >
> > > mailing-contact with Henk.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > ps 2.: Peter R., the past night wild boar again
> in my prairie. That
> >
> > > means another Belgian beer ;-))
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > //European colour-ring Birding on
> ////www.cr-birding.be//
> >
> > > <http://www.cr-birding.be>
> >
> > > //a different way of birding. //
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >>>>>>>>
> >
> > >
> >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > >
> >
> > > From: "H.J. van Huffelen" <h.j.van.huffelen@...
> >
> > > <mailto:h.j.van.huffelen@...>>
> >
> > >
> >
> > > To: <cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com>>
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 12:21 PM
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Subject: Re: [cr-birding] soortscoordinatoren
> voor IWSG
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Dear Pete,
> >
> > > I could have known, though I didn't realise it,
> your were coordinator.
> >
> > > Of course I respect your point of keeping it to
> "large coordinator
> >
> > > gulls". I think cr-community is best served by
> people investing time
> >
> > > over more (many) years. Dirk is one of the best
> exemples. Stopping of
> >
> > > his activities would certainly lead to the
> "death" of cr-ringing.
> >
> > > You can do me a great favour still, without a
> great time investment, by
> >
> > > stimulating people to take part in coordinator
> activities. If you know a
> >
> > > wader guru who would like to do this job, please
> mail me.
> >
> > > Thank you for your part in the job (I had your
> help indeed last summer
> >
> > > with my Le Portel observations.)
> >
> > > We'll keep in touch!
> >
> > > Best wishes, Henk van Huffelen
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Pete Rock schreef:
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Dear Henk
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Your point is well made. I co-ordinate the
> large gulls which is
> >
> > > > relatively easy in comparison to the work
> you do. I still receive
> >
> > > > between 0-15 mails per day. Yes, there are
> days when I receive NO
> >
> > > > mails! This is a voluntary post and I am
> pleased to do the work.
> >
> > > > However, we must all acknowledge the fact
> that colour-ringing schemes
> >
> > > > for all species are increasing annually –
> which, of course, increases
> >
> > > > the work of co-ordinators. And. Let’s not
> forget that there are
> >
> > > > colour-ringing schemes for a large number of
> species and groups of
> >
> > > > species where there are no co-ordinators at
> all. In this respect the
> >
> > > > work that Dirk does with the cr-birding
> website is brought into sharp
> >
> > > > focus – what on earth would we do without
> him?
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Colour-ringing, as we all know, dramatically
> increases recovery rates
> >
> > > > (for the large gulls, for instance, recovery
> rates for metal alone are
> >
> > > > between 3-6%, but with colour-rings recovery
> rates above 60% are
> >
> > > > possible). For researchers this is a
> no-brainer. Why use only metal?
> >
> > > > There are two reasons: if you have plenty of
> money and if you intend
> >
> > > > to live for several lifetimes… Therefore,
> Henk, I endorse your words
> >
> > > > and encourage others to help. Within the
> world of colour-ringing we
> >
> > > > are all engaged in finding out important
> things to do with the species
> >
> > > > we study. Sometimes, those who are deeply
> engaged tend to forget that
> >
> > > > co-operation brings the richest rewards…
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > With all good wishes
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Peter
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Peter Rock
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > 7, Parkside Avenue
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Winterbourne
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Bristol BS36 1LU
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > *From:* cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > <mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com]
> >
> > > > *On Behalf Of *H.J. van Huffelen
> >
> > > > *Sent:* 13 November 2009 20:09
> >
> > > > *To:* Cr-Birding
> >
> > > > *Subject:* [cr-birding] soortscoordinatoren
> voor IWSG
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Hello all cr-birders,
> >
> > > > The IWSG heeft onlags een wisseling van de
> wacht gehad. Mark
> > Collier has
> >
> > > > stepped down and Henk van Huffelen tekes the
> reins.
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > The IWSG (Int Wader Study Group) is
> searching for dedicated
> > coordinators
> >
> > > > for a nearly all wader species.
> >
> > > > The problem is the workload of all mails
> reported to the IWSG. We have
> >
> > > > to take measures to keep it human.
> >
> > > > I would like to emphasize that all ringers
> and observers would
> > benefit a
> >
> > > > good communication between observers and
> ringers.
> >
> > > > That is why I put this mail in this
> newsgroup.
> >
> > > > I hope to find some new species coordinators
> per species.
> >
> > > > In the IWSG we are 120% active at this
> moment. Yesterday 50 mails were
> >
> > > > processed. We work with 2 persons, Jannik
> Hansen and me.
> >
> > > > In 2 days I found 3 new coordinators.
> >
> > > > Please feel yourself responsible for good
> communication between
> > observer
> >
> > > > and ringer.
> >
> > > > Your work: "adopt" the resightings of the
> species and try to find the
> >
> > > > ringer.
> >
> > > > Report back the result: "succeeded or not
> succeeded."
> >
> > > > The IWSG fully takes their responsibility
> for the waders as is agreed
> >
> > > > with Euring.
> >
> > > > Help is welcomed very much.
> >
> > > > Hope to hear from you. Let my inbox
> explode!
> >
> > > > Best wishes, Henk van Huffelen CMR Officer
> IWSG
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > ------------------------------------
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Please don't forget to check "European
> colour-ring projects" (Dirk
> >
> > > Raes website):
> >
> > > http://www.cr-birding.be/ <http://www.cr-birding.be/> before asking!
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Report a ring on
> >
> > > http://blx1.bto.org/euring/main/index.jspYahoo
> >
> > > <http://blx1.bto.org/euring/main/index.jspYahoo>!
> Groups Links
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > (Yahoo! ID required)
> >
> > >
> >
> > > cr-birding-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > <mailto:cr-birding-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com>
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
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> >
> > >
> >
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> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Please don't forget to check "European colour-ring
> projects" (Dirk
> > Raes website):
> >
> > http://www.cr-birding.be/ before asking!
> >
> > Report a ring on
> >
> > www.ring.ac
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cr-birding/
> >
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> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cr-birding/join
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> >
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Please don't forget to check "European colour-ring
> projects" (Dirk Raes website):
> http://www.cr-birding.be/ before asking!
>
> Report a ring on
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>

#3880

From: "H.J. van Huffelen" <h.j.van.huffelen@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:40 pm
Subject: Re: cr-thanks , IWSG , cr-site

hjvanhuffelen

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Sorry Marco, I realize this discussion was not so interesting for you.
It was late and there was a lot that happend.
The IWSG has been able to set some important steps to bring more
structure in the processing of cr-ringing of waders. I was very hapy
with all developments.
This was the end of the day discussion, my apologies.
I hope to serve cr spotters of waders in a good way, also in future.
Marco, can you forgive me?
ciao! Henk


marco basso schreef:
>
>
> happy to be into this list!
> ;-)
> m
>
> Marco Basso
> Via Ivrea, 20/A
> I-35142 Padova - Italy
> tel +39 349 4242596
> marcobassopd@... <mailto:marcobassopd%40yahoo.it>
> http://www.marcobasso.com <http://www.marcobasso.com>
> http://www.crb-photoguide.com/ <http://www.crb-photoguide.com/>
> Please consider the environment. Print this mail only if necessary
>
> --- Dom 15/11/09, H.J. van Huffelen <h.j.van.huffelen@...
> <mailto:h.j.van.huffelen%40planet.nl>> ha scritto:
>
> > Da: H.J. van Huffelen <h.j.van.huffelen@...
> <mailto:h.j.van.huffelen%40planet.nl>>
> > Oggetto: Re: [cr-birding] cr-thanks , IWSG , cr-site
> > A: cr-birding@yahoogroups.com <mailto:cr-birding%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Data: Domenica 15 novembre 2009, 00:05
> > Dear Pete,
> > I will give a large, silent reaction:
> > .......
> > ......
> > ......
> > .....
> > .....
> > ....
> > .....
> > ....
> > and hope that common sense will solve the problems in
> > cr-waders (and
> > other birdgroups)
> > Now I go to bed. Tomorrow new challenges ;)
> > Henk
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Pete Rock schreef:
> > >
> > > Dear Henk
> > >
> > > I have often thought that the wader watching
> > fraternity is somewhat
> > > idiosyncratic, but thinking of you dancing when you
> > are reading
> > > colour-rings does stretch the imagination!
> > >
> > > With all good wishes
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
> > > Peter Rock
> > >
> > > 7, Parkside Avenue
> > >
> > > Winterbourne
> > >
> > > Bristol BS36 1LU
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cr-birding@yahoogroups.com <mailto:cr-birding%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:cr-birding%40yahoogroups.com>]
> >
> > > On Behalf Of H.J. van Huffelen
> > > Sent: 14 November 2009 22:33
> > > To: cr-birding@yahoogroups.com <mailto:cr-birding%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [cr-birding] cr-thanks , IWSG , cr-site
> > >
> > > Back to earth? Lets dance and read rings!
> > >
> > > Henk van Huffelen
> > >
> > > Pete Rock schreef:
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > OK, Dirk… That’s enough glory! Back to earth
> > – I will try to offer a
> > >
> > > > scheme with black rings showing white letters so
> > that RIP will be
> > >
> > > > possible!
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > With all good wishes
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Peter
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Peter Rock
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > 7, Parkside Avenue
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Winterbourne
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Bristol BS36 1LU
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > *From:* cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:cr-birding%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:cr-birding%40yahoogroups.com>]
> > >
> > > > *On Behalf Of *Dirk Raes
> > >
> > > > *Sent:* 14 November 2009 16:10
> > >
> > > > *To:* cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:cr-birding%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >
> > > > *Subject:* [cr-birding] cr-thanks , IWSG ,
> > cr-site
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Dear Peter, Dear Henk,
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Dear cr-birders,
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Peter wrote :
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > > **In this respect the work that Dirk does
> > with the cr-birding website
> > >
> > > > is brought into sharp focus – what on earth
> > would we do without him ?**
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Time to react, because too much glory is not
> > good.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Soon I'l start believing this and asks a funeral
> > service to make me as
> > >
> > > > stone in the form of a colour-ring, black with
> > white letters **RIP** ;-))
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > The past weeks were quite busy on the cr-birding
> > newsgroup with a lot
> > >
> > > > of opinions and sure overwhelming gratitude for
> > the colour-ring
> > >
> > > > birding work I did.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Thank you all for this warm appreciation ... but
> > writing that if I'm
> > >
> > > > stopping it will lead into the "death" of
> > cr-ringing is also too much.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Peter, Henk, you always can visit the cr-stone
> > ;-))
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > On the 11th. of November I have been cr-birding
> > in Zeeland, The
> > >
> > > > Netherlands and spotted a Brent Goose coded OTRK.
> > After reading the
> > >
> > > > rings, I have been talking a little bit with that
> > bird.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > It was ringed on the 13th. of July 1995 at
> > Isvestiya Troynoy, Russia
> > >
> > > > and that's exact 2 months before I started with
> > the European
> > >
> > > > colour-ring Birding website.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > The bird asked me to continue with the European
> > colour-ring Birding
> > >
> > > > website because otherwise it should be never been
> > reported anymore and
> > >
> > > > therefore get lost.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > So, dear cr-birders, I will continue with the
> > website.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > The past week a lot happened and several positive
> > reactions //ref.//
> > >
> > > > 'working together' arrive into my/our mailbox.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Henk, Berend, James, Peter and all the others ...
> > the cr-world has
> > >
> > > > sure new perspectives and a bright future.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > best greetings,
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Dirk
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > ps 1.: the names of several coordinators are
> > available on my website
> > >
> > > > and the coming week names will be updated due to
> > a very close
> > >
> > > > mailing-contact with Henk.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > ps 2.: Peter R., the past night wild boar again
> > in my prairie. That
> > >
> > > > means another Belgian beer ;-))
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > //European colour-ring Birding on
> > ////www.cr-birding.be//
> > >
> > > > <http://www.cr-birding.be <http://www.cr-birding.be>>
> > >
> > > > //a different way of birding. //
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > From: "H.J. van Huffelen" <h.j.van.huffelen@...
> <mailto:h.j.van.huffelen%40planet.nl>
> > >
> > > > <mailto:h.j.van.huffelen@...
> <mailto:h.j.van.huffelen%40planet.nl>>>
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > To: <cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:cr-birding%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:cr-birding%40yahoogroups.com>>>
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 12:21 PM
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Subject: Re: [cr-birding] soortscoordinatoren
> > voor IWSG
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Dear Pete,
> > >
> > > > I could have known, though I didn't realise it,
> > your were coordinator.
> > >
> > > > Of course I respect your point of keeping it to
> > "large coordinator
> > >
> > > > gulls". I think cr-community is best served by
> > people investing time
> > >
> > > > over more (many) years. Dirk is one of the best
> > exemples. Stopping of
> > >
> > > > his activities would certainly lead to the
> > "death" of cr-ringing.
> > >
> > > > You can do me a great favour still, without a
> > great time investment, by
> > >
> > > > stimulating people to take part in coordinator
> > activities. If you know a
> > >
> > > > wader guru who would like to do this job, please
> > mail me.
> > >
> > > > Thank you for your part in the job (I had your
> > help indeed last summer
> > >
> > > > with my Le Portel observations.)
> > >
> > > > We'll keep in touch!
> > >
> > > > Best wishes, Henk van Huffelen
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Pete Rock schreef:
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Dear Henk
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Your point is well made. I co-ordinate the
> > large gulls which is
> > >
> > > > > relatively easy in comparison to the work
> > you do. I still receive
> > >
> > > > > between 0-15 mails per day. Yes, there are
> > days when I receive NO
> > >
> > > > > mails! This is a voluntary post and I am
> > pleased to do the work.
> > >
> > > > > However, we must all acknowledge the fact
> > that colour-ringing schemes
> > >
> > > > > for all species are increasing annually –
> > which, of course, increases
> > >
> > > > > the work of co-ordinators. And. Let’s not
> > forget that there are
> > >
> > > > > colour-ringing schemes for a large number of
> > species and groups of
> > >
> > > > > species where there are no co-ordinators at
> > all. In this respect the
> > >
> > > > > work that Dirk does with the cr-birding
> > website is brought into sharp
> > >
> > > > > focus – what on earth would we do without
> > him?
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Colour-ringing, as we all know, dramatically
> > increases recovery rates
> > >
> > > > > (for the large gulls, for instance, recovery
> > rates for metal alone are
> > >
> > > > > between 3-6%, but with colour-rings recovery
> > rates above 60% are
> > >
> > > > > possible). For researchers this is a
> > no-brainer. Why use only metal?
> > >
> > > > > There are two reasons: if you have plenty of
> > money and if you intend
> > >
> > > > > to live for several lifetimes… Therefore,
> > Henk, I endorse your words
> > >
> > > > > and encourage others to help. Within the
> > world of colour-ringing we
> > >
> > > > > are all engaged in finding out important
> > things to do with the species
> > >
> > > > > we study. Sometimes, those who are deeply
> > engaged tend to forget that
> > >
> > > > > co-operation brings the richest rewards…
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > With all good wishes
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Peter
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Peter Rock
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > 7, Parkside Avenue
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Winterbourne
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Bristol BS36 1LU
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > *From:* cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:cr-birding%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >
> > > > <mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:cr-birding%40yahoogroups.com>>
> > [mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:cr-birding%40yahoogroups.com>]
> > >
> > > > > *On Behalf Of *H.J. van Huffelen
> > >
> > > > > *Sent:* 13 November 2009 20:09
> > >
> > > > > *To:* Cr-Birding
> > >
> > > > > *Subject:* [cr-birding] soortscoordinatoren
> > voor IWSG
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Hello all cr-birders,
> > >
> > > > > The IWSG heeft onlags een wisseling van de
> > wacht gehad. Mark
> > > Collier has
> > >
> > > > > stepped down and Henk van Huffelen tekes the
> > reins.
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > The IWSG (Int Wader Study Group) is
> > searching for dedicated
> > > coordinators
> > >
> > > > > for a nearly all wader species.
> > >
> > > > > The problem is the workload of all mails
> > reported to the IWSG. We have
> > >
> > > > > to take measures to keep it human.
> > >
> > > > > I would like to emphasize that all ringers
> > and observers would
> > > benefit a
> > >
> > > > > good communication between observers and
> > ringers.
> > >
> > > > > That is why I put this mail in this
> > newsgroup.
> > >
> > > > > I hope to find some new species coordinators
> > per species.
> > >
> > > > > In the IWSG we are 120% active at this
> > moment. Yesterday 50 mails were
> > >
> > > > > processed. We work with 2 persons, Jannik
> > Hansen and me.
> > >
> > > > > In 2 days I found 3 new coordinators.
> > >
> > > > > Please feel yourself responsible for good
> > communication between
> > > observer
> > >
> > > > > and ringer.
> > >
> > > > > Your work: "adopt" the resightings of the
> > species and try to find the
> > >
> > > > > ringer.
> > >
> > > > > Report back the result: "succeeded or not
> > succeeded."
> > >
> > > > > The IWSG fully takes their responsibility
> > for the waders as is agreed
> > >
> > > > > with Euring.
> > >
> > > > > Help is welcomed very much.
> > >
> > > > > Hope to hear from you. Let my inbox
> > explode!
> > >
> > > > > Best wishes, Henk van Huffelen CMR Officer
> > IWSG
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Please don't forget to check "European
> > colour-ring projects" (Dirk
> > >
> > > > Raes website):
> > >
> > > > http://www.cr-birding.be/ <http://www.cr-birding.be/>
> <http://www.cr-birding.be/ <http://www.cr-birding.be/>> before asking!
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Report a ring on
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#3881

From: marco basso <marcobassopd@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:07 pm
Subject: Re: cr-thanks , IWSG , cr-site

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I have always my dictionary in hand (I studied French at school ...)

Henk! I was not ironic, it was nice to read that ... for what i can understand with my bad English!

ciao!

Marco

Marco Basso
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--- Dom 15/11/09, H.J. van Huffelen <h.j.van.huffelen@...> ha scritto:

Da: H.J. van Huffelen <h.j.van.huffelen@...>
Oggetto: Re: [cr-birding] cr-thanks , IWSG , cr-site
A: cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
Data: Domenica 15 novembre 2009, 13:40

Sorry Marco, I realize this discussion was not so interesting for you.
It was late and there was a lot that happend.
The IWSG has been able to set some important steps to bring more
structure in the processing of cr-ringing of waders. I was very hapy
with all developments.
This was the end of the day discussion, my apologies.
I hope to serve cr spotters of waders in a good way, also in future.
Marco, can you forgive me?
ciao! Henk

marco basso schreef:
>
>
> happy to be into this list!
> ;-)
> m
>
> Marco Basso
> Via Ivrea, 20/A
> I-35142 Padova - Italy
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> Please consider the environment. Print this mail only if necessary
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> --- Dom 15/11/09, H.J. van Huffelen <h.j.van.huffelen@ planet.nl
> <mailto:h.j. van.huffelen% 40planet. nl>> ha scritto:
>
> > Da: H.J. van Huffelen <h.j.van.huffelen@ planet.nl
> <mailto:h.j. van.huffelen% 40planet. nl>>
> > Oggetto: Re: [cr-birding] cr-thanks , IWSG , cr-site
> > A: cr-birding@yahoogro ups.com <mailto:cr-birding% 40yahoogroups. com>
> > Data: Domenica 15 novembre 2009, 00:05
> > Dear Pete,
> > I will give a large, silent reaction:
> > .......
> > ......
> > ......
> > .....
> > .....
> > ....
> > .....
> > ....
> > and hope that common sense will solve the problems in
> > cr-waders (and
> > other birdgroups)
> > Now I go to bed. Tomorrow new challenges ;)
> > Henk
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Pete Rock schreef:
> > >
> > > Dear Henk
> > >
> > > I have often thought that the wader watching
> > fraternity is somewhat
> > > idiosyncratic, but thinking of you dancing when you
> > are reading
> > > colour-rings does stretch the imagination!
> > >
> > > With all good wishes
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
> > > Peter Rock
> > >
> > > 7, Parkside Avenue
> > >
> > > Winterbourne
> > >
> > > Bristol BS36 1LU
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cr-birding@yahoogro ups.com <mailto:cr-birding% 40yahoogroups. com>
> > [mailto:cr-birding@yahoogro ups.com
> <mailto:cr-birding% 40yahoogroups. com>]
> >
> > > On Behalf Of H.J. van Huffelen
> > > Sent: 14 November 2009 22:33
> > > To: cr-birding@yahoogro ups.com <mailto:cr-birding% 40yahoogroups. com>
> > > Subject: Re: [cr-birding] cr-thanks , IWSG , cr-site
> > >
> > > Back to earth? Lets dance and read rings!
> > >
> > > Henk van Huffelen
> > >
> > > Pete Rock schreef:
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > OK, Dirk… That’s enough glory! Back to earth
> > – I will try to offer a
> > >
> > > > scheme with black rings showing white letters so
> > that RIP will be
> > >
> > > > possible!
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > With all good wishes
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Peter
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Peter Rock
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > 7, Parkside Avenue
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Winterbourne
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Bristol BS36 1LU
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > *From:* cr-birding@yahoogro ups.com
> <mailto:cr-birding% 40yahoogroups. com>
> > [mailto:cr-birding@yahoogro ups.com
> <mailto:cr-birding% 40yahoogroups. com>]
> > >
> > > > *On Behalf Of *Dirk Raes
> > >
> > > > *Sent:* 14 November 2009 16:10
> > >
> > > > *To:* cr-birding@yahoogro ups.com
> <mailto:cr-birding% 40yahoogroups. com>
> > >
> > > > *Subject:* [cr-birding] cr-thanks , IWSG ,
> > cr-site
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Dear Peter, Dear Henk,
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Dear cr-birders,
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Peter wrote :
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > > **In this respect the work that Dirk does
> > with the cr-birding website
> > >
> > > > is brought into sharp focus – what on earth
> > would we do without him ?**
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Time to react, because too much glory is not
> > good.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Soon I'l start believing this and asks a funeral
> > service to make me as
> > >
> > > > stone in the form of a colour-ring, black with
> > white letters **RIP** ;-))
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > The past weeks were quite busy on the cr-birding
> > newsgroup with a lot
> > >
> > > > of opinions and sure overwhelming gratitude for
> > the colour-ring
> > >
> > > > birding work I did.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Thank you all for this warm appreciation ... but
> > writing that if I'm
> > >
> > > > stopping it will lead into the "death" of
> > cr-ringing is also too much.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Peter, Henk, you always can visit the cr-stone
> > ;-))
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > On the 11th. of November I have been cr-birding
> > in Zeeland, The
> > >
> > > > Netherlands and spotted a Brent Goose coded OTRK.
> > After reading the
> > >
> > > > rings, I have been talking a little bit with that
> > bird.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > It was ringed on the 13th. of July 1995 at
> > Isvestiya Troynoy, Russia
> > >
> > > > and that's exact 2 months before I started with
> > the European
> > >
> > > > colour-ring Birding website.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > The bird asked me to continue with the European
> > colour-ring Birding
> > >
> > > > website because otherwise it should be never been
> > reported anymore and
> > >
> > > > therefore get lost.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > So, dear cr-birders, I will continue with the
> > website.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > The past week a lot happened and several positive
> > reactions //ref.//
> > >
> > > > 'working together' arrive into my/our mailbox.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Henk, Berend, James, Peter and all the others ...
> > the cr-world has
> > >
> > > > sure new perspectives and a bright future.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > best greetings,
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Dirk
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > ps 1.: the names of several coordinators are
> > available on my website
> > >
> > > > and the coming week names will be updated due to
> > a very close
> > >
> > > > mailing-contact with Henk.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > ps 2.: Peter R., the past night wild boar again
> > in my prairie. That
> > >
> > > > means another Belgian beer ;-))
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > //European colour-ring Birding on
> > ////www.cr-birding. be//
> > >
> > > > <http://www.cr- birding.be <http://www.cr- birding.be>>
> > >
> > > > //a different way of birding. //
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > From: "H.J. van Huffelen" <h.j.van.huffelen@ planet.nl
> <mailto:h.j. van.huffelen% 40planet. nl>
> > >
> > > > <mailto:h.j.van.huffelen@ planet.nl
> <mailto:h.j. van.huffelen% 40planet. nl>>>
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > To: <cr-birding@yahoogro ups.com
> <mailto:cr-birding% 40yahoogroups. com>
> > <mailto:cr-birding@yahoogro ups.com
> <mailto:cr-birding% 40yahoogroups. com>>>
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 12:21 PM
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Subject: Re: [cr-birding] soortscoordinatoren
> > voor IWSG
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Dear Pete,
> > >
> > > > I could have known, though I didn't realise it,
> > your were coordinator.
> > >
> > > > Of course I respect your point of keeping it to
> > "large coordinator
> > >
> > > > gulls". I think cr-community is best served by
> > people investing time
> > >
> > > > over more (many) years. Dirk is one of the best
> > exemples. Stopping of
> > >
> > > > his activities would certainly lead to the
> > "death" of cr-ringing.
> > >
> > > > You can do me a great favour still, without a
> > great time investment, by
> > >
> > > > stimulating people to take part in coordinator
> > activities. If you know a
> > >
> > > > wader guru who would like to do this job, please
> > mail me.
> > >
> > > > Thank you for your part in the job (I had your
> > help indeed last summer
> > >
> > > > with my Le Portel observations. )
> > >
> > > > We'll keep in touch!
> > >
> > > > Best wishes, Henk van Huffelen
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Pete Rock schreef:
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Dear Henk
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Your point is well made. I co-ordinate the
> > large gulls which is
> > >
> > > > > relatively easy in comparison to the work
> > you do. I still receive
> > >
> > > > > between 0-15 mails per day. Yes, there are
> > days when I receive NO
> > >
> > > > > mails! This is a voluntary post and I am
> > pleased to do the work.
> > >
> > > > > However, we must all acknowledge the fact
> > that colour-ringing schemes
> > >
> > > > > for all species are increasing annually –
> > which, of course, increases
> > >
> > > > > the work of co-ordinators. And. Let’s not
> > forget that there are
> > >
> > > > > colour-ringing schemes for a large number of
> > species and groups of
> > >
> > > > > species where there are no co-ordinators at
> > all. In this respect the
> > >
> > > > > work that Dirk does with the cr-birding
> > website is brought into sharp
> > >
> > > > > focus – what on earth would we do without
> > him?
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Colour-ringing, as we all know, dramatically
> > increases recovery rates
> > >
> > > > > (for the large gulls, for instance, recovery
> > rates for metal alone are
> > >
> > > > > between 3-6%, but with colour-rings recovery
> > rates above 60% are
> > >
> > > > > possible). For researchers this is a
> > no-brainer. Why use only metal?
> > >
> > > > > There are two reasons: if you have plenty of
> > money and if you intend
> > >
> > > > > to live for several lifetimes… Therefore,
> > Henk, I endorse your words
> > >
> > > > > and encourage others to help. Within the
> > world of colour-ringing we
> > >
> > > > > are all engaged in finding out important
> > things to do with the species
> > >
> > > > > we study. Sometimes, those who are deeply
> > engaged tend to forget that
> > >
> > > > > co-operation brings the richest rewards…
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > With all good wishes
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Peter
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Peter Rock
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > 7, Parkside Avenue
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Winterbourne
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Bristol BS36 1LU
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > *From:* cr-birding@yahoogro ups.com
> <mailto:cr-birding% 40yahoogroups. com>
> > >
> > > > <mailto:cr-birding@yahoogro ups.com
> <mailto:cr-birding% 40yahoogroups. com>>
> > [mailto:cr-birding@yahoogro ups.com
> <mailto:cr-birding% 40yahoogroups. com>]
> > >
> > > > > *On Behalf Of *H.J. van Huffelen
> > >
> > > > > *Sent:* 13 November 2009 20:09
> > >
> > > > > *To:* Cr-Birding
> > >
> > > > > *Subject:* [cr-birding] soortscoordinatoren
> > voor IWSG
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Hello all cr-birders,
> > >
> > > > > The IWSG heeft onlags een wisseling van de
> > wacht gehad. Mark
> > > Collier has
> > >
> > > > > stepped down and Henk van Huffelen tekes the
> > reins.
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > The IWSG (Int Wader Study Group) is
> > searching for dedicated
> > > coordinators
> > >
> > > > > for a nearly all wader species.
> > >
> > > > > The problem is the workload of all mails
> > reported to the IWSG. We have
> > >
> > > > > to take measures to keep it human.
> > >
> > > > > I would like to emphasize that all ringers
> > and observers would
> > > benefit a
> > >
> > > > > good communication between observers and
> > ringers.
> > >
> > > > > That is why I put this mail in this
> > newsgroup.
> > >
> > > > > I hope to find some new species coordinators
> > per species.
> > >
> > > > > In the IWSG we are 120% active at this
> > moment. Yesterday 50 mails were
> > >
> > > > > processed. We work with 2 persons, Jannik
> > Hansen and me.
> > >
> > > > > In 2 days I found 3 new coordinators.
> > >
> > > > > Please feel yourself responsible for good
> > communication between
> > > observer
> > >
> > > > > and ringer.
> > >
> > > > > Your work: "adopt" the resightings of the
> > species and try to find the
> > >
> > > > > ringer.
> > >
> > > > > Report back the result: "succeeded or not
> > succeeded."
> > >
> > > > > The IWSG fully takes their responsibility
> > for the waders as is agreed
> > >
> > > > > with Euring.
> > >
> > > > > Help is welcomed very much.
> > >
> > > > > Hope to hear from you. Let my inbox
> > explode!
> > >
> > > > > Best wishes, Henk van Huffelen CMR Officer
> > IWSG
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Please don't forget to check "European
> > colour-ring projects" (Dirk
> > >
> > > > Raes website):
> > >
> > > > http://www.cr- birding.be/ <http://www.cr- birding.be/>
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> > >
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#3882

From: Simon Feys <simonfeys@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 6:38 pm
Subject: Re: pigeon ring on a gull? [3 Attachments]

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I saw a Herring Gull with a (similar?) white plastic ring (and no metal) at Nieuwpoort, Belgium, last month. Other ideas about the origin of this type of rings?

Regards,

Simon

--- On Sat, 11/14/09, Alain FOSSÉ <alainbfosse@...> wrote:

From: Alain FOSSÉ <alainbfosse@...>
Subject: [cr-birding] pigeon ring on a gull? [3 Attachments]
To: cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 14, 2009, 4:10 PM

I saw the enclosed gull (HG I guess) with this small bright lime ring on left tarsus (probably no ring on right tarsus, tibias not seen), [LBL;RB-;LA? ;RA?]*.

Any idea?

(Peter Rock doesn't know its origin.)

Best regards.

*BTO code <http://www.btoipmr.f9.co.uk/eucmark.html>

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44, rue Barra
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47° 29' 5.28" N, 0° 33' 49.08" W
<alainbfosse at gmail.com>
Web Site LPO Anjou<http://www.lpo-anjou.org/baguage/baguage.htm>
My digiscoping
<http://www.digimages.info/>
My French List of the Birds of the World
<http://www.digimages.info/listeoiseauxmonde/index.html>
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Zilver witte ring.jpg

#3883

From: "H.J. van Huffelen" <h.j.van.huffelen@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:30 pm
Subject: list of vacant species coordinators

hjvanhuffelen

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Dear all,
After the discussion of last days is here a list of all projects that
are vacant.
We ask your help in the linking of observers and projects. Not of the
issuingaccording of ringprojects. This stays a task of the IWSG.
Here is the list: If you are interested, please mail me.    Best wishes,
Henk van Huffelen IWSG
*CMO* vogelsoort  persoon
Eur Golden Plover
Red Knot
Eur Dotterel
Common ringed Plover
Eur Stone Curlew
Pied Avocet
Little Stint
Temminck's Stint
Curlew Sandpiper
Black-winged stilt
Grey Plover
Common Sandpiper
Great Knot
Pacific Golden Plover
Terek Sandpiper
St Helena's Plover
Crab Plover
Collared Pratincole
Common Snipe
Ruddy turnstone
Broad-billed Sandpiper
Green Sandpiper
Common Greenshank
Spotted Redshank
Bar-tailed Godwit
Sociable Lapwing
Great Snipe
Eur Oystercatcher
Red Phalorope

#3884

From: "jezblackburn" <jez.blackburn@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:39 pm
Subject: Reporting colour ringed birds and patience!

jezblackburn

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Dear Dirk et al

Not wishing to resurrect this discussion again but on behalf of BTO I would like
to say that it really goes without saying that we all know Dirk has done a
tremendous job maintaining the database in his own time.

Unfortunately it is human nature to complain about things and expect, in this
day and age with electronic communication, a reply to be received nearly
immediately. Most people involved with the administration of colour ringing
projects and ringing schemes of course realise that due to things such as volume
of work, people and staff on leave/sick and general complications of tracing
details and contacting the colour ring marker, these things can take several
weeks or months. Unfortunate as this may be, they are being dealt with as
quickly as possible under certain situations and circumstances.

BTO have been making great efforts to get the message across to the colour
ringers that it is important details we send on are dealt with promptly as many
projects on waders, wildfowl and gulls rely on observations by members of the
public.  BTO always reply to finders of any marked bird and let them know who
the report has been sent to and ask them to let BTO know if a reply has not been
received after a certain amount of time so we can assist in following this up.

It is a good point here that we all need to be patient and understand the
pressures we are all under not only professionally at work but also in our own
time.

Thanks once again Dirk, and you know from the correspondence we regularly have
that BTO appreciates your work.

Best Wishes
Jez Blackburn
Licensing manager and co-ordinator of BTO colour marking projects

#3885

From: "H.J. van Huffelen" <h.j.van.huffelen@...>
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:39 pm
Subject: emailadres wanted

hjvanhuffelen

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Dear cr-birders,
As CMR Officer of the Int Waderstudygroup I try to reach Jennifer Smart
at             jennifer.smart@...
Unfortunately I get a permanent failure of delivery back
Can you provide me with the correct emailadres?
Txs in advance, best wishes, Henk van Huffelen

#3886

From: M Lancaster <mbl.tenbel@...>
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 6:56 am
Subject: Eurasian Spoonbill

kt151tb

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On 18 and 21.11.2008 and again on 20.01.09, I saw a Eurasian Spoonbill wearing short colour rings (not Darvics with legends) and a metal ring. All rings on tibia.

Blue/Orange Rt:Green/Metal Lt.

On my first visit to the site (Charca de El Fraile - Tenerife, Islas Canarias) this autumn (19.11.09) I saw the same bird in the company of 9 other unrung birds.

I think I had difficulty deciding the origin when I checked Dirk's site last year. Any information appreciated.

Barry

M B Lancaster,
Currently - Tenerife, Islas Canarias

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#3887

From: James Cracknell <james@...>
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 5:55 pm
Subject: Re: emailadres wanted

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Hi Henk

I've just sent a copy of your message via Facebook to Jen Smart. �I know some others on here will try as well.

2009/11/21 H.J. van Huffelen <h.j.van.huffelen@...>

Dear cr-birders,
As CMR Officer of the Int Waderstudygroup I try to reach Jennifer Smart
at � � � � � � jennifer.smart@...
Unfortunately I get a permanent failure of delivery back
Can you provide me with the correct emailadres?
Txs in advance, best wishes, Henk van Huffelen

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#3888

From: "H.J. van Huffelen" <h.j.van.huffelen@...>
Date: Sun Nov 22, 2009 8:16 pm
Subject: Re: emailadres wanted

hjvanhuffelen

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Dear James, Thank you for your help. I'll wait for Jen to mail.
Cheers, Henk

James Cracknell schreef:
>
> Hi Henk
>
>
> I've just sent a copy of your message via Facebook to Jen Smart. I
> know some others on here will try as well.
>
> J.
>
> 2009/11/21 H.J. van Huffelen <h.j.van.huffelen@...
> <mailto:h.j.van.huffelen@...>>
>
>     Dear cr-birders,
>     As CMR Officer of the Int Waderstudygroup I try to reach Jennifer
>     Smart
>     at jennifer.smart@... <mailto:jennifer.smart@...>
>     Unfortunately I get a permanent failure of delivery back
>     Can you provide me with the correct emailadres?
>     Txs in advance, best wishes, Henk van Huffelen
>
>
>     ------------------------------------
>
>     Please don't forget to check "European colour-ring projects" (Dirk
>     Raes website):
>     http://www.cr-birding.be/ <http://www.cr-birding.be/> before asking!
>
>     Report a ring on
>     www.ring.ac <http://www.ring.ac>
>     Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>     (Yahoo! ID required)
>
>     cr-birding-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com
>     <mailto:cr-birding-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com>
>
>
>
>

#3889

From: "H.J. van Huffelen" <h.j.van.huffelen@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:41 pm
Subject: mystery observation

hjvanhuffelen

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Dear cr-birders,
As CMR Officer of the IWSG( the Wader Study Group), I ask your help in
finding a project not know in the IWSG and not on the site of Dirk Raes.
I would like to know the ringer and the emailadress.
In general: all wader ringers in Europe have to registrate their
projects at the IWSG.
Please always communicate about what you are ringing.
Dirk Raes and Henk van Huffelen (IWSG) have started reorganising the
waders. We started with the Curlew Sandpiper.

It is about a Calidris ferruginea, a Curlew Sandpiper.
read is:     Ring on left tarsus from above: yellow - yellow - yellow
                 Ring on right tarsus from above: dark green - light
green - yellow.
No rings registered on the tibia.
Date August 2009   Place: Falsterbo-Sweden.

Thanks for mailing an answer. I hope to minimise bothering all of you
with this kind of questions. (Ringers send your info!)
Keep looking through your scope!
Henk van Huffelen CMR Officer IWSG