Dear Dirk et al

Not wishing to resurrect this discussion again but on behalf of BTO I would like
to say that it really goes without saying that we all know Dirk has done a
tremendous job maintaining the database in his own time.

Unfortunately it is human nature to complain about things and expect, in this
day and age with electronic communication, a reply to be received nearly
immediately. Most people involved with the administration of colour ringing
projects and ringing schemes of course realise that due to things such as volume
of work, people and staff on leave/sick and general complications of tracing
details and contacting the colour ring marker, these things can take several
weeks or months. Unfortunate as this may be, they are being dealt with as
quickly as possible under certain situations and circumstances.

BTO have been making great efforts to get the message across to the colour
ringers that it is important details we send on are dealt with promptly as many
projects on waders, wildfowl and gulls rely on observations by members of the
public.  BTO always reply to finders of any marked bird and let them know who
the report has been sent to and ask them to let BTO know if a reply has not been
received after a certain amount of time so we can assist in following this up.

It is a good point here that we all need to be patient and understand the
pressures we are all under not only professionally at work but also in our own
time.

Thanks once again Dirk, and you know from the correspondence we regularly have
that BTO appreciates your work.

Best Wishes
Jez Blackburn
Licensing manager and co-ordinator of BTO colour marking projects

Dear all,
After the discussion of last days is here a list of all projects that
are vacant.
We ask your help in the linking of observers and projects. Not of the
issuingaccording of ringprojects. This stays a task of the IWSG.
Here is the list: If you are interested, please mail me.    Best wishes,
Henk van Huffelen IWSG
*CMO* vogelsoort  persoon
Eur Golden Plover
Red Knot
Eur Dotterel
Common ringed Plover
Eur Stone Curlew
Pied Avocet
Little Stint
Temminck's Stint
Curlew Sandpiper
Black-winged stilt
Grey Plover
Common Sandpiper
Great Knot
Pacific Golden Plover
Terek Sandpiper
St Helena's Plover
Crab Plover
Collared Pratincole
Common Snipe
Ruddy turnstone
Broad-billed Sandpiper
Green Sandpiper
Common Greenshank
Spotted Redshank
Bar-tailed Godwit
Sociable Lapwing
Great Snipe
Eur Oystercatcher
Red Phalorope

Sorry Marco, I realize this discussion was not so interesting for you.
It was late and there was a lot that happend.
The IWSG has been able to set some important steps to bring more
structure in the processing of cr-ringing of waders. I was very hapy
with all developments.
This was the end of the day discussion, my apologies.
I hope to serve cr spotters of waders in a good way, also in future.
Marco, can you forgive me?
ciao! Henk


marco basso schreef:
>
>
> happy to be into this list!
> ;-)
> m
>
> Marco Basso
> Via Ivrea, 20/A
> I-35142 Padova - Italy
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> --- Dom 15/11/09, H.J. van Huffelen <h.j.van.huffelen@...
> <mailto:h.j.van.huffelen%40planet.nl>> ha scritto:
>
> > Da: H.J. van Huffelen <h.j.van.huffelen@...
> <mailto:h.j.van.huffelen%40planet.nl>>
> > Oggetto: Re: [cr-birding] cr-thanks , IWSG , cr-site
> > A: cr-birding@yahoogroups.com <mailto:cr-birding%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Data: Domenica 15 novembre 2009, 00:05
> > Dear Pete,
> > I will give a large, silent reaction:
> > .......
> > ......
> > ......
> > .....
> > .....
> > ....
> > .....
> > ....
> > and hope that common sense will solve the problems in
> > cr-waders (and
> > other birdgroups)
> > Now I go to bed. Tomorrow new challenges ;)
> > Henk
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Pete Rock schreef:
> > >
> > > Dear Henk
> > >
> > > I have often thought that the wader watching
> > fraternity is somewhat
> > > idiosyncratic, but thinking of you dancing when you
> > are reading
> > > colour-rings does stretch the imagination!
> > >
> > > With all good wishes
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
> > > Peter Rock
> > >
> > > 7, Parkside Avenue
> > >
> > > Winterbourne
> > >
> > > Bristol BS36 1LU
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cr-birding@yahoogroups.com <mailto:cr-birding%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:cr-birding%40yahoogroups.com>]
> >
> > > On Behalf Of H.J. van Huffelen
> > > Sent: 14 November 2009 22:33
> > > To: cr-birding@yahoogroups.com <mailto:cr-birding%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [cr-birding] cr-thanks , IWSG , cr-site
> > >
> > > Back to earth? Lets dance and read rings!
> > >
> > > Henk van Huffelen
> > >
> > > Pete Rock schreef:
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > OK, Dirk… That’s enough glory! Back to earth
> > – I will try to offer a
> > >
> > > > scheme with black rings showing white letters so
> > that RIP will be
> > >
> > > > possible!
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > With all good wishes
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Peter
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Peter Rock
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > 7, Parkside Avenue
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Winterbourne
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Bristol BS36 1LU
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > *From:* cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:cr-birding%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:cr-birding%40yahoogroups.com>]
> > >
> > > > *On Behalf Of *Dirk Raes
> > >
> > > > *Sent:* 14 November 2009 16:10
> > >
> > > > *To:* cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:cr-birding%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >
> > > > *Subject:* [cr-birding] cr-thanks , IWSG ,
> > cr-site
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Dear Peter, Dear Henk,
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Dear cr-birders,
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Peter wrote :
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > > **In this respect the work that Dirk does
> > with the cr-birding website
> > >
> > > > is brought into sharp focus – what on earth
> > would we do without him ?**
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Time to react, because too much glory is not
> > good.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Soon I'l start believing this and asks a funeral
> > service to make me as
> > >
> > > > stone in the form of a colour-ring, black with
> > white letters **RIP** ;-))
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > The past weeks were quite busy on the cr-birding
> > newsgroup with a lot
> > >
> > > > of opinions and sure overwhelming gratitude for
> > the colour-ring
> > >
> > > > birding work I did.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Thank you all for this warm appreciation ... but
> > writing that if I'm
> > >
> > > > stopping it will lead into the "death" of
> > cr-ringing is also too much.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Peter, Henk, you always can visit the cr-stone
> > ;-))
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > On the 11th. of November I have been cr-birding
> > in Zeeland, The
> > >
> > > > Netherlands and spotted a Brent Goose coded OTRK.
> > After reading the
> > >
> > > > rings, I have been talking a little bit with that
> > bird.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > It was ringed on the 13th. of July 1995 at
> > Isvestiya Troynoy, Russia
> > >
> > > > and that's exact 2 months before I started with
> > the European
> > >
> > > > colour-ring Birding website.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > The bird asked me to continue with the European
> > colour-ring Birding
> > >
> > > > website because otherwise it should be never been
> > reported anymore and
> > >
> > > > therefore get lost.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > So, dear cr-birders, I will continue with the
> > website.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > The past week a lot happened and several positive
> > reactions //ref.//
> > >
> > > > 'working together' arrive into my/our mailbox.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Henk, Berend, James, Peter and all the others ...
> > the cr-world has
> > >
> > > > sure new perspectives and a bright future.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > best greetings,
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Dirk
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > ps 1.: the names of several coordinators are
> > available on my website
> > >
> > > > and the coming week names will be updated due to
> > a very close
> > >
> > > > mailing-contact with Henk.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > ps 2.: Peter R., the past night wild boar again
> > in my prairie. That
> > >
> > > > means another Belgian beer ;-))
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > //European colour-ring Birding on
> > ////www.cr-birding.be//
> > >
> > > > <http://www.cr-birding.be <http://www.cr-birding.be>>
> > >
> > > > //a different way of birding. //
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > From: "H.J. van Huffelen" <h.j.van.huffelen@...
> <mailto:h.j.van.huffelen%40planet.nl>
> > >
> > > > <mailto:h.j.van.huffelen@...
> <mailto:h.j.van.huffelen%40planet.nl>>>
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > To: <cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:cr-birding%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:cr-birding%40yahoogroups.com>>>
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 12:21 PM
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Subject: Re: [cr-birding] soortscoordinatoren
> > voor IWSG
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Dear Pete,
> > >
> > > > I could have known, though I didn't realise it,
> > your were coordinator.
> > >
> > > > Of course I respect your point of keeping it to
> > "large coordinator
> > >
> > > > gulls". I think cr-community is best served by
> > people investing time
> > >
> > > > over more (many) years. Dirk is one of the best
> > exemples. Stopping of
> > >
> > > > his activities would certainly lead to the
> > "death" of cr-ringing.
> > >
> > > > You can do me a great favour still, without a
> > great time investment, by
> > >
> > > > stimulating people to take part in coordinator
> > activities. If you know a
> > >
> > > > wader guru who would like to do this job, please
> > mail me.
> > >
> > > > Thank you for your part in the job (I had your
> > help indeed last summer
> > >
> > > > with my Le Portel observations.)
> > >
> > > > We'll keep in touch!
> > >
> > > > Best wishes, Henk van Huffelen
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Pete Rock schreef:
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Dear Henk
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Your point is well made. I co-ordinate the
> > large gulls which is
> > >
> > > > > relatively easy in comparison to the work
> > you do. I still receive
> > >
> > > > > between 0-15 mails per day. Yes, there are
> > days when I receive NO
> > >
> > > > > mails! This is a voluntary post and I am
> > pleased to do the work.
> > >
> > > > > However, we must all acknowledge the fact
> > that colour-ringing schemes
> > >
> > > > > for all species are increasing annually –
> > which, of course, increases
> > >
> > > > > the work of co-ordinators. And. Let’s not
> > forget that there are
> > >
> > > > > colour-ringing schemes for a large number of
> > species and groups of
> > >
> > > > > species where there are no co-ordinators at
> > all. In this respect the
> > >
> > > > > work that Dirk does with the cr-birding
> > website is brought into sharp
> > >
> > > > > focus – what on earth would we do without
> > him?
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Colour-ringing, as we all know, dramatically
> > increases recovery rates
> > >
> > > > > (for the large gulls, for instance, recovery
> > rates for metal alone are
> > >
> > > > > between 3-6%, but with colour-rings recovery
> > rates above 60% are
> > >
> > > > > possible). For researchers this is a
> > no-brainer. Why use only metal?
> > >
> > > > > There are two reasons: if you have plenty of
> > money and if you intend
> > >
> > > > > to live for several lifetimes… Therefore,
> > Henk, I endorse your words
> > >
> > > > > and encourage others to help. Within the
> > world of colour-ringing we
> > >
> > > > > are all engaged in finding out important
> > things to do with the species
> > >
> > > > > we study. Sometimes, those who are deeply
> > engaged tend to forget that
> > >
> > > > > co-operation brings the richest rewards…
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > With all good wishes
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Peter
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Peter Rock
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > 7, Parkside Avenue
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Winterbourne
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Bristol BS36 1LU
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > *From:* cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:cr-birding%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >
> > > > <mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:cr-birding%40yahoogroups.com>>
> > [mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:cr-birding%40yahoogroups.com>]
> > >
> > > > > *On Behalf Of *H.J. van Huffelen
> > >
> > > > > *Sent:* 13 November 2009 20:09
> > >
> > > > > *To:* Cr-Birding
> > >
> > > > > *Subject:* [cr-birding] soortscoordinatoren
> > voor IWSG
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Hello all cr-birders,
> > >
> > > > > The IWSG heeft onlags een wisseling van de
> > wacht gehad. Mark
> > > Collier has
> > >
> > > > > stepped down and Henk van Huffelen tekes the
> > reins.
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > The IWSG (Int Wader Study Group) is
> > searching for dedicated
> > > coordinators
> > >
> > > > > for a nearly all wader species.
> > >
> > > > > The problem is the workload of all mails
> > reported to the IWSG. We have
> > >
> > > > > to take measures to keep it human.
> > >
> > > > > I would like to emphasize that all ringers
> > and observers would
> > > benefit a
> > >
> > > > > good communication between observers and
> > ringers.
> > >
> > > > > That is why I put this mail in this
> > newsgroup.
> > >
> > > > > I hope to find some new species coordinators
> > per species.
> > >
> > > > > In the IWSG we are 120% active at this
> > moment. Yesterday 50 mails were
> > >
> > > > > processed. We work with 2 persons, Jannik
> > Hansen and me.
> > >
> > > > > In 2 days I found 3 new coordinators.
> > >
> > > > > Please feel yourself responsible for good
> > communication between
> > > observer
> > >
> > > > > and ringer.
> > >
> > > > > Your work: "adopt" the resightings of the
> > species and try to find the
> > >
> > > > > ringer.
> > >
> > > > > Report back the result: "succeeded or not
> > succeeded."
> > >
> > > > > The IWSG fully takes their responsibility
> > for the waders as is agreed
> > >
> > > > > with Euring.
> > >
> > > > > Help is welcomed very much.
> > >
> > > > > Hope to hear from you. Let my inbox
> > explode!
> > >
> > > > > Best wishes, Henk van Huffelen CMR Officer
> > IWSG
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Please don't forget to check "European
> > colour-ring projects" (Dirk
> > >
> > > > Raes website):
> > >
> > > > http://www.cr-birding.be/ <http://www.cr-birding.be/>
> <http://www.cr-birding.be/ <http://www.cr-birding.be/>> before asking!
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Report a ring on
> > >
> > > > http://blx1.bto.org/euring/main/index.jspYahoo
> <http://blx1.bto.org/euring/main/index.jspYahoo>
> > >
> > > > <http://blx1.bto.org/euring/main/index.jspYahoo
> <http://blx1.bto.org/euring/main/index.jspYahoo>>!
> > Groups Links
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > (Yahoo! ID required)
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > cr-birding-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:cr-birding-fullfeatured%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >
> > > > <mailto:cr-birding-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com
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> > >
> > > >
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> > >
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> > > Please don't forget to check "European colour-ring
> > projects" (Dirk
> > > Raes website):
> > >
> > > http://www.cr-birding.be/ <http://www.cr-birding.be/> before asking!
> > >
> > > Report a ring on
> > >
> > > www.ring.ac
> > >
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> > Please don't forget to check "European colour-ring
> > projects" (Dirk Raes website):
> > http://www.cr-birding.be/ <http://www.cr-birding.be/> before asking!
> >
> > Report a ring on
> > www.ring.ac
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
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;-)
m

Marco Basso
Via Ivrea, 20/A
I-35142 Padova - Italy
tel +39 349 4242596
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--- Dom 15/11/09, H.J. van Huffelen <h.j.van.huffelen@...> ha scritto:

> Da: H.J. van Huffelen <h.j.van.huffelen@...>
> Oggetto: Re: [cr-birding] cr-thanks , IWSG , cr-site
> A: cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
> Data: Domenica 15 novembre 2009, 00:05
> Dear Pete,
> I will give a large, silent reaction:
> .......
> ......
> ......
> .....
> .....
> ....
> .....
> ....
> and hope that common sense will solve the problems in
> cr-waders (and
> other birdgroups)
> Now I go to bed. Tomorrow new challenges ;)
> Henk
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Pete Rock schreef:
> >
> > Dear Henk
> >
> > I have often thought that the wader watching
> fraternity is somewhat
> > idiosyncratic, but thinking of you dancing when you
> are reading
> > colour-rings does stretch the imagination!
> >
> > With all good wishes
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > Peter Rock
> >
> > 7, Parkside Avenue
> >
> > Winterbourne
> >
> > Bristol BS36 1LU
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com]
>
> > On Behalf Of H.J. van Huffelen
> > Sent: 14 November 2009 22:33
> > To: cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [cr-birding] cr-thanks , IWSG , cr-site
> >
> > Back to earth? Lets dance and read rings!
> >
> > Henk van Huffelen
> >
> > Pete Rock schreef:
> >
> > >
> >
> > > OK, Dirk… That’s enough glory! Back to earth
> – I will try to offer a
> >
> > > scheme with black rings showing white letters so
> that RIP will be
> >
> > > possible!
> >
> > >
> >
> > > With all good wishes
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Peter
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Peter Rock
> >
> > >
> >
> > > 7, Parkside Avenue
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Winterbourne
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Bristol BS36 1LU
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > >
> >
> > > *From:* cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com]
> >
> > > *On Behalf Of *Dirk Raes
> >
> > > *Sent:* 14 November 2009 16:10
> >
> > > *To:* cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > *Subject:* [cr-birding] cr-thanks , IWSG ,
> cr-site
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Dear Peter, Dear Henk,
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Dear cr-birders,
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Peter wrote :
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > **In this respect the work that Dirk does
> with the cr-birding website
> >
> > > is brought into sharp focus – what on earth
> would we do without him ?**
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Time to react, because too much glory is not
> good.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Soon I'l start believing this and asks a funeral
> service to make me as
> >
> > > stone in the form of a colour-ring, black with
> white letters **RIP** ;-))
> >
> > >
> >
> > > The past weeks were quite busy on the cr-birding
> newsgroup with a lot
> >
> > > of opinions and sure overwhelming gratitude for
> the colour-ring
> >
> > > birding work I did.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Thank you all for this warm appreciation ... but
> writing that if I'm
> >
> > > stopping it will lead into the "death" of
> cr-ringing is also too much.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Peter, Henk, you always can visit the cr-stone
> ;-))
> >
> > >
> >
> > > On the 11th. of November I have been cr-birding
> in Zeeland, The
> >
> > > Netherlands and spotted a Brent Goose coded OTRK.
> After reading the
> >
> > > rings, I have been talking a little bit with that
> bird.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > It was ringed on the 13th. of July 1995 at
> Isvestiya Troynoy, Russia
> >
> > > and that's exact 2 months before I started with
> the European
> >
> > > colour-ring Birding website.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > The bird asked me to continue with the European
> colour-ring Birding
> >
> > > website because otherwise it should be never been
> reported anymore and
> >
> > > therefore get lost.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > So, dear cr-birders, I will continue with the
> website.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > The past week a lot happened and several positive
> reactions //ref.//
> >
> > > 'working together' arrive into my/our mailbox.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Henk, Berend, James, Peter and all the others ...
> the cr-world has
> >
> > > sure new perspectives and a bright future.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > best greetings,
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Dirk
> >
> > >
> >
> > > ps 1.: the names of several coordinators are
> available on my website
> >
> > > and the coming week names will be updated due to
> a very close
> >
> > > mailing-contact with Henk.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > ps 2.: Peter R., the past night wild boar again
> in my prairie. That
> >
> > > means another Belgian beer ;-))
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > //European colour-ring Birding on
> ////www.cr-birding.be//
> >
> > > <http://www.cr-birding.be>
> >
> > > //a different way of birding. //
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >>>>>>>>
> >
> > >
> >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > >
> >
> > > From: "H.J. van Huffelen" <h.j.van.huffelen@...
> >
> > > <mailto:h.j.van.huffelen@...>>
> >
> > >
> >
> > > To: <cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com>>
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 12:21 PM
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Subject: Re: [cr-birding] soortscoordinatoren
> voor IWSG
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Dear Pete,
> >
> > > I could have known, though I didn't realise it,
> your were coordinator.
> >
> > > Of course I respect your point of keeping it to
> "large coordinator
> >
> > > gulls". I think cr-community is best served by
> people investing time
> >
> > > over more (many) years. Dirk is one of the best
> exemples. Stopping of
> >
> > > his activities would certainly lead to the
> "death" of cr-ringing.
> >
> > > You can do me a great favour still, without a
> great time investment, by
> >
> > > stimulating people to take part in coordinator
> activities. If you know a
> >
> > > wader guru who would like to do this job, please
> mail me.
> >
> > > Thank you for your part in the job (I had your
> help indeed last summer
> >
> > > with my Le Portel observations.)
> >
> > > We'll keep in touch!
> >
> > > Best wishes, Henk van Huffelen
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Pete Rock schreef:
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Dear Henk
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Your point is well made. I co-ordinate the
> large gulls which is
> >
> > > > relatively easy in comparison to the work
> you do. I still receive
> >
> > > > between 0-15 mails per day. Yes, there are
> days when I receive NO
> >
> > > > mails! This is a voluntary post and I am
> pleased to do the work.
> >
> > > > However, we must all acknowledge the fact
> that colour-ringing schemes
> >
> > > > for all species are increasing annually –
> which, of course, increases
> >
> > > > the work of co-ordinators. And. Let’s not
> forget that there are
> >
> > > > colour-ringing schemes for a large number of
> species and groups of
> >
> > > > species where there are no co-ordinators at
> all. In this respect the
> >
> > > > work that Dirk does with the cr-birding
> website is brought into sharp
> >
> > > > focus – what on earth would we do without
> him?
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Colour-ringing, as we all know, dramatically
> increases recovery rates
> >
> > > > (for the large gulls, for instance, recovery
> rates for metal alone are
> >
> > > > between 3-6%, but with colour-rings recovery
> rates above 60% are
> >
> > > > possible). For researchers this is a
> no-brainer. Why use only metal?
> >
> > > > There are two reasons: if you have plenty of
> money and if you intend
> >
> > > > to live for several lifetimes… Therefore,
> Henk, I endorse your words
> >
> > > > and encourage others to help. Within the
> world of colour-ringing we
> >
> > > > are all engaged in finding out important
> things to do with the species
> >
> > > > we study. Sometimes, those who are deeply
> engaged tend to forget that
> >
> > > > co-operation brings the richest rewards…
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > With all good wishes
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Peter
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Peter Rock
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > 7, Parkside Avenue
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Winterbourne
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Bristol BS36 1LU
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > *From:* cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > <mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com]
> >
> > > > *On Behalf Of *H.J. van Huffelen
> >
> > > > *Sent:* 13 November 2009 20:09
> >
> > > > *To:* Cr-Birding
> >
> > > > *Subject:* [cr-birding] soortscoordinatoren
> voor IWSG
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Hello all cr-birders,
> >
> > > > The IWSG heeft onlags een wisseling van de
> wacht gehad. Mark
> > Collier has
> >
> > > > stepped down and Henk van Huffelen tekes the
> reins.
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > The IWSG (Int Wader Study Group) is
> searching for dedicated
> > coordinators
> >
> > > > for a nearly all wader species.
> >
> > > > The problem is the workload of all mails
> reported to the IWSG. We have
> >
> > > > to take measures to keep it human.
> >
> > > > I would like to emphasize that all ringers
> and observers would
> > benefit a
> >
> > > > good communication between observers and
> ringers.
> >
> > > > That is why I put this mail in this
> newsgroup.
> >
> > > > I hope to find some new species coordinators
> per species.
> >
> > > > In the IWSG we are 120% active at this
> moment. Yesterday 50 mails were
> >
> > > > processed. We work with 2 persons, Jannik
> Hansen and me.
> >
> > > > In 2 days I found 3 new coordinators.
> >
> > > > Please feel yourself responsible for good
> communication between
> > observer
> >
> > > > and ringer.
> >
> > > > Your work: "adopt" the resightings of the
> species and try to find the
> >
> > > > ringer.
> >
> > > > Report back the result: "succeeded or not
> succeeded."
> >
> > > > The IWSG fully takes their responsibility
> for the waders as is agreed
> >
> > > > with Euring.
> >
> > > > Help is welcomed very much.
> >
> > > > Hope to hear from you. Let my inbox
> explode!
> >
> > > > Best wishes, Henk van Huffelen CMR Officer
> IWSG
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > ------------------------------------
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Please don't forget to check "European
> colour-ring projects" (Dirk
> >
> > > Raes website):
> >
> > > http://www.cr-birding.be/ <http://www.cr-birding.be/> before asking!
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Report a ring on
> >
> > > http://blx1.bto.org/euring/main/index.jspYahoo
> >
> > > <http://blx1.bto.org/euring/main/index.jspYahoo>!
> Groups Links
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > (Yahoo! ID required)
> >
> > >
> >
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> >
> > > <mailto:cr-birding-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com>
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
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> > ------------------------------------
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> > Raes website):
> >
> > http://www.cr-birding.be/ before asking!
> >
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>
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----- Original Message -----

From: Alain FOSSÉ

To: cr-birding@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 3:10 PM

Subject: [cr-birding] pigeon ring on a gull? [3 Attachments]

 

I saw the enclosed gull (HG I guess) with this small bright lime ring on left tarsus (probably no ring on right tarsus, tibias not seen), [LBL;RB-;LA?;RA?]*.

---

Any idea?

(Peter Rock doesn't know its origin.)

Best regards.

*BTO code <http://www.btoipmr.f9.co.uk/eucmark.html>

============================================
Alain Fossé (LPO Anjou)
44, rue Barra
F-49100 ANGERS
47° 29' 5.28" N, 0° 33' 49.08" W
<alainbfosse at gmail.com>
Web Site LPO Anjou<http://www.lpo-anjou.org/baguage/baguage.htm>
My digiscoping
<http://www.digimages.info/>
My French List of the Birds of the World
<http://www.digimages.info/listeoiseauxmonde/index.html>
============================================

Dear Pete,
I will give a large, silent reaction:
.......
......
......
.....
.....
....
.....
....
and hope that common sense will solve the problems in cr-waders (and
other birdgroups)
Now I go to bed. Tomorrow new challenges ;)
Henk









Pete Rock schreef:
>
> Dear Henk
>
> I have often thought that the wader watching fraternity is somewhat
> idiosyncratic, but thinking of you dancing when you are reading
> colour-rings does stretch the imagination!
>
> With all good wishes
>
> Peter
>
> Peter Rock
>
> 7, Parkside Avenue
>
> Winterbourne
>
> Bristol BS36 1LU
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cr-birding@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of H.J. van Huffelen
> Sent: 14 November 2009 22:33
> To: cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [cr-birding] cr-thanks , IWSG , cr-site
>
> Back to earth? Lets dance and read rings!
>
> Henk van Huffelen
>
> Pete Rock schreef:
>
> >
>
> > OK, Dirk… That’s enough glory! Back to earth – I will try to offer a
>
> > scheme with black rings showing white letters so that RIP will be
>
> > possible!
>
> >
>
> > With all good wishes
>
> >
>
> > Peter
>
> >
>
> > Peter Rock
>
> >
>
> > 7, Parkside Avenue
>
> >
>
> > Winterbourne
>
> >
>
> > Bristol BS36 1LU
>
> >
>
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> >
>
> > *From:* cr-birding@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com]
>
> > *On Behalf Of *Dirk Raes
>
> > *Sent:* 14 November 2009 16:10
>
> > *To:* cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
>
> > *Subject:* [cr-birding] cr-thanks , IWSG , cr-site
>
> >
>
> > Dear Peter, Dear Henk,
>
> >
>
> > Dear cr-birders,
>
> >
>
> > Peter wrote :
>
> >
>
> > > **In this respect the work that Dirk does with the cr-birding website
>
> > is brought into sharp focus – what on earth would we do without him ?**
>
> >
>
> > Time to react, because too much glory is not good.
>
> >
>
> > Soon I'l start believing this and asks a funeral service to make me as
>
> > stone in the form of a colour-ring, black with white letters **RIP** ;-))
>
> >
>
> > The past weeks were quite busy on the cr-birding newsgroup with a lot
>
> > of opinions and sure overwhelming gratitude for the colour-ring
>
> > birding work I did.
>
> >
>
> > Thank you all for this warm appreciation ... but writing that if I'm
>
> > stopping it will lead into the "death" of cr-ringing is also too much.
>
> >
>
> > Peter, Henk, you always can visit the cr-stone ;-))
>
> >
>
> > On the 11th. of November I have been cr-birding in Zeeland, The
>
> > Netherlands and spotted a Brent Goose coded OTRK. After reading the
>
> > rings, I have been talking a little bit with that bird.
>
> >
>
> > It was ringed on the 13th. of July 1995 at Isvestiya Troynoy, Russia
>
> > and that's exact 2 months before I started with the European
>
> > colour-ring Birding website.
>
> >
>
> > The bird asked me to continue with the European colour-ring Birding
>
> > website because otherwise it should be never been reported anymore and
>
> > therefore get lost.
>
> >
>
> > So, dear cr-birders, I will continue with the website.
>
> >
>
> > The past week a lot happened and several positive reactions //ref.//
>
> > 'working together' arrive into my/our mailbox.
>
> >
>
> > Henk, Berend, James, Peter and all the others ... the cr-world has
>
> > sure new perspectives and a bright future.
>
> >
>
> > best greetings,
>
> >
>
> > Dirk
>
> >
>
> > ps 1.: the names of several coordinators are available on my website
>
> > and the coming week names will be updated due to a very close
>
> > mailing-contact with Henk.
>
> >
>
> > ps 2.: Peter R., the past night wild boar again in my prairie. That
>
> > means another Belgian beer ;-))
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > //European colour-ring Birding on ////www.cr-birding.be//
>
> > <http://www.cr-birding.be>
>
> > //a different way of birding. //
>
> >
>
> > >>>>>>>>
>
> >
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
>
> >
>
> > From: "H.J. van Huffelen" <h.j.van.huffelen@...
>
> > <mailto:h.j.van.huffelen@...>>
>
> >
>
> > To: <cr-birding@yahoogroups.com <mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com>>
>
> >
>
> > Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 12:21 PM
>
> >
>
> > Subject: Re: [cr-birding] soortscoordinatoren voor IWSG
>
> >
>
> > Dear Pete,
>
> > I could have known, though I didn't realise it, your were coordinator.
>
> > Of course I respect your point of keeping it to "large coordinator
>
> > gulls". I think cr-community is best served by people investing time
>
> > over more (many) years. Dirk is one of the best exemples. Stopping of
>
> > his activities would certainly lead to the "death" of cr-ringing.
>
> > You can do me a great favour still, without a great time investment, by
>
> > stimulating people to take part in coordinator activities. If you know a
>
> > wader guru who would like to do this job, please mail me.
>
> > Thank you for your part in the job (I had your help indeed last summer
>
> > with my Le Portel observations.)
>
> > We'll keep in touch!
>
> > Best wishes, Henk van Huffelen
>
> >
>
> > Pete Rock schreef:
>
> > >
>
> > > Dear Henk
>
> > >
>
> > > Your point is well made. I co-ordinate the large gulls which is
>
> > > relatively easy in comparison to the work you do. I still receive
>
> > > between 0-15 mails per day. Yes, there are days when I receive NO
>
> > > mails! This is a voluntary post and I am pleased to do the work.
>
> > > However, we must all acknowledge the fact that colour-ringing schemes
>
> > > for all species are increasing annually – which, of course, increases
>
> > > the work of co-ordinators. And. Let’s not forget that there are
>
> > > colour-ringing schemes for a large number of species and groups of
>
> > > species where there are no co-ordinators at all. In this respect the
>
> > > work that Dirk does with the cr-birding website is brought into sharp
>
> > > focus – what on earth would we do without him?
>
> > >
>
> > > Colour-ringing, as we all know, dramatically increases recovery rates
>
> > > (for the large gulls, for instance, recovery rates for metal alone are
>
> > > between 3-6%, but with colour-rings recovery rates above 60% are
>
> > > possible). For researchers this is a no-brainer. Why use only metal?
>
> > > There are two reasons: if you have plenty of money and if you intend
>
> > > to live for several lifetimes… Therefore, Henk, I endorse your words
>
> > > and encourage others to help. Within the world of colour-ringing we
>
> > > are all engaged in finding out important things to do with the species
>
> > > we study. Sometimes, those who are deeply engaged tend to forget that
>
> > > co-operation brings the richest rewards…
>
> > >
>
> > > With all good wishes
>
> > >
>
> > > Peter
>
> > >
>
> > > Peter Rock
>
> > >
>
> > > 7, Parkside Avenue
>
> > >
>
> > > Winterbourne
>
> > >
>
> > > Bristol BS36 1LU
>
> > >
>
> > >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > >
>
> > > *From:* cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
>
> > <mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com]
>
> > > *On Behalf Of *H.J. van Huffelen
>
> > > *Sent:* 13 November 2009 20:09
>
> > > *To:* Cr-Birding
>
> > > *Subject:* [cr-birding] soortscoordinatoren voor IWSG
>
> > >
>
> > > Hello all cr-birders,
>
> > > The IWSG heeft onlags een wisseling van de wacht gehad. Mark
> Collier has
>
> > > stepped down and Henk van Huffelen tekes the reins.
>
> > >
>
> > > The IWSG (Int Wader Study Group) is searching for dedicated
> coordinators
>
> > > for a nearly all wader species.
>
> > > The problem is the workload of all mails reported to the IWSG. We have
>
> > > to take measures to keep it human.
>
> > > I would like to emphasize that all ringers and observers would
> benefit a
>
> > > good communication between observers and ringers.
>
> > > That is why I put this mail in this newsgroup.
>
> > > I hope to find some new species coordinators per species.
>
> > > In the IWSG we are 120% active at this moment. Yesterday 50 mails were
>
> > > processed. We work with 2 persons, Jannik Hansen and me.
>
> > > In 2 days I found 3 new coordinators.
>
> > > Please feel yourself responsible for good communication between
> observer
>
> > > and ringer.
>
> > > Your work: "adopt" the resightings of the species and try to find the
>
> > > ringer.
>
> > > Report back the result: "succeeded or not succeeded."
>
> > > The IWSG fully takes their responsibility for the waders as is agreed
>
> > > with Euring.
>
> > > Help is welcomed very much.
>
> > > Hope to hear from you. Let my inbox explode!
>
> > > Best wishes, Henk van Huffelen CMR Officer IWSG
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > ------------------------------------
>
> >
>
> > Please don't forget to check "European colour-ring projects" (Dirk
>
> > Raes website):
>
> > http://www.cr-birding.be/ <http://www.cr-birding.be/> before asking!
>
> >
>
> > Report a ring on
>
> > http://blx1.bto.org/euring/main/index.jspYahoo
>
> > <http://blx1.bto.org/euring/main/index.jspYahoo>! Groups Links
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > (Yahoo! ID required)
>
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Back to earth? Lets dance and read rings!
Henk van Huffelen

Pete Rock schreef:
>
> OK, Dirk… That’s enough glory! Back to earth – I will try to offer a
> scheme with black rings showing white letters so that RIP will be
> possible!
>
> With all good wishes
>
> Peter
>
> Peter Rock
>
> 7, Parkside Avenue
>
> Winterbourne
>
> Bristol BS36 1LU
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:* cr-birding@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com]
> *On Behalf Of *Dirk Raes
> *Sent:* 14 November 2009 16:10
> *To:* cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* [cr-birding] cr-thanks , IWSG , cr-site
>
> Dear Peter, Dear Henk,
>
> Dear cr-birders,
>
> Peter wrote :
>
> > **In this respect the work that Dirk does with the cr-birding website
> is brought into sharp focus – what on earth would we do without him ?**
>
> Time to react, because too much glory is not good.
>
> Soon I'l start believing this and asks a funeral service to make me as
> stone in the form of a colour-ring, black with white letters **RIP** ;-))
>
> The past weeks were quite busy on the cr-birding newsgroup with a lot
> of opinions and sure overwhelming gratitude for the colour-ring
> birding work I did.
>
> Thank you all for this warm appreciation ... but writing that if I'm
> stopping it will lead into the "death" of cr-ringing is also too much.
>
> Peter, Henk, you always can visit the cr-stone ;-))
>
> On the 11th. of November I have been cr-birding in Zeeland, The
> Netherlands and spotted a Brent Goose coded OTRK. After reading the
> rings, I have been talking a little bit with that bird.
>
> It was ringed on the 13th. of July 1995 at Isvestiya Troynoy, Russia
> and that's exact 2 months before I started with the European
> colour-ring Birding website.
>
> The bird asked me to continue with the European colour-ring Birding
> website because otherwise it should be never been reported anymore and
> therefore get lost.
>
> So, dear cr-birders, I will continue with the website.
>
> The past week a lot happened and several positive reactions //ref.//
> 'working together' arrive into my/our mailbox.
>
> Henk, Berend, James, Peter and all the others ... the cr-world has
> sure new perspectives and a bright future.
>
> best greetings,
>
> Dirk
>
> ps 1.: the names of several coordinators are available on my website
> and the coming week names will be updated due to a very close
> mailing-contact with Henk.
>
> ps 2.: Peter R., the past night wild boar again in my prairie. That
> means another Belgian beer ;-))
>
>
> //European colour-ring Birding on ////www.cr-birding.be//
> <http://www.cr-birding.be>
> //a different way of birding. //
>
> >>>>>>>>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "H.J. van Huffelen" <h.j.van.huffelen@...
> <mailto:h.j.van.huffelen@...>>
>
> To: <cr-birding@yahoogroups.com <mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com>>
>
> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 12:21 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [cr-birding] soortscoordinatoren voor IWSG
>
> Dear Pete,
> I could have known, though I didn't realise it, your were coordinator.
> Of course I respect your point of keeping it to "large coordinator
> gulls". I think cr-community is best served by people investing time
> over more (many) years. Dirk is one of the best exemples. Stopping of
> his activities would certainly lead to the "death" of cr-ringing.
> You can do me a great favour still, without a great time investment, by
> stimulating people to take part in coordinator activities. If you know a
> wader guru who would like to do this job, please mail me.
> Thank you for your part in the job (I had your help indeed last summer
> with my Le Portel observations.)
> We'll keep in touch!
> Best wishes, Henk van Huffelen
>
> Pete Rock schreef:
> >
> > Dear Henk
> >
> > Your point is well made. I co-ordinate the large gulls which is
> > relatively easy in comparison to the work you do. I still receive
> > between 0-15 mails per day. Yes, there are days when I receive NO
> > mails! This is a voluntary post and I am pleased to do the work.
> > However, we must all acknowledge the fact that colour-ringing schemes
> > for all species are increasing annually – which, of course, increases
> > the work of co-ordinators. And. Let’s not forget that there are
> > colour-ringing schemes for a large number of species and groups of
> > species where there are no co-ordinators at all. In this respect the
> > work that Dirk does with the cr-birding website is brought into sharp
> > focus – what on earth would we do without him?
> >
> > Colour-ringing, as we all know, dramatically increases recovery rates
> > (for the large gulls, for instance, recovery rates for metal alone are
> > between 3-6%, but with colour-rings recovery rates above 60% are
> > possible). For researchers this is a no-brainer. Why use only metal?
> > There are two reasons: if you have plenty of money and if you intend
> > to live for several lifetimes… Therefore, Henk, I endorse your words
> > and encourage others to help. Within the world of colour-ringing we
> > are all engaged in finding out important things to do with the species
> > we study. Sometimes, those who are deeply engaged tend to forget that
> > co-operation brings the richest rewards…
> >
> > With all good wishes
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > Peter Rock
> >
> > 7, Parkside Avenue
> >
> > Winterbourne
> >
> > Bristol BS36 1LU
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > *From:* cr-birding@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com]
> > *On Behalf Of *H.J. van Huffelen
> > *Sent:* 13 November 2009 20:09
> > *To:* Cr-Birding
> > *Subject:* [cr-birding] soortscoordinatoren voor IWSG
> >
> > Hello all cr-birders,
> > The IWSG heeft onlags een wisseling van de wacht gehad. Mark Collier has
> > stepped down and Henk van Huffelen tekes the reins.
> >
> > The IWSG (Int Wader Study Group) is searching for dedicated coordinators
> > for a nearly all wader species.
> > The problem is the workload of all mails reported to the IWSG. We have
> > to take measures to keep it human.
> > I would like to emphasize that all ringers and observers would benefit a
> > good communication between observers and ringers.
> > That is why I put this mail in this newsgroup.
> > I hope to find some new species coordinators per species.
> > In the IWSG we are 120% active at this moment. Yesterday 50 mails were
> > processed. We work with 2 persons, Jannik Hansen and me.
> > In 2 days I found 3 new coordinators.
> > Please feel yourself responsible for good communication between observer
> > and ringer.
> > Your work: "adopt" the resightings of the species and try to find the
> > ringer.
> > Report back the result: "succeeded or not succeeded."
> > The IWSG fully takes their responsibility for the waders as is agreed
> > with Euring.
> > Help is welcomed very much.
> > Hope to hear from you. Let my inbox explode!
> > Best wishes, Henk van Huffelen CMR Officer IWSG
> >
> >
>
>
>
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> Raes website):
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>
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I saw the enclosed gull (HG I guess) with this small bright lime ring on left
tarsus (probably no ring on right tarsus, tibias not seen), [LBL;RB-;LA?;RA?]*.

Any idea?

(Peter Rock doesn't know its origin.)

Best regards.

*BTO code <http://www.btoipmr.f9.co.uk/eucmark.html>

============================================
Alain Fossé (LPO Anjou)
44, rue Barra
F-49100 ANGERS
47° 29' 5.28" N, 0° 33' 49.08" W
<alainbfosse at gmail.com>
Web Site LPO Anjou<http://www.lpo-anjou.org/baguage/baguage.htm>
My digiscoping
<http://www.digimages.info/>
My French List of the Birds of the World
<http://www.digimages.info/listeoiseauxmonde/index.html>
============================================

Dear Pete,
I could have known, though I didn't realise it, your were coordinator.
Of course I respect your point of keeping it to "large coordinator
gulls". I think cr-community is best served by people investing time
over more (many) years. Dirk is one of the best exemples. Stopping of
his activities would certainly lead to the "death" of cr-ringing.
You can do me a great favour still, without a great time investment, by
stimulating people to take part in coordinator activities. If you know a
wader guru who would like to do this job, please mail me.
Thank you for your part in the job (I had your help indeed last summer
with my Le Portel observations.)
We'll keep in touch!
Best wishes, Henk van Huffelen

Pete Rock schreef:
>
> Dear Henk
>
> Your point is well made. I co-ordinate the large gulls which is
> relatively easy in comparison to the work you do. I still receive
> between 0-15 mails per day. Yes, there are days when I receive NO
> mails! This is a voluntary post and I am pleased to do the work.
> However, we must all acknowledge the fact that colour-ringing schemes
> for all species are increasing annually – which, of course, increases
> the work of co-ordinators. And. Let’s not forget that there are
> colour-ringing schemes for a large number of species and groups of
> species where there are no co-ordinators at all. In this respect the
> work that Dirk does with the cr-birding website is brought into sharp
> focus – what on earth would we do without him?
>
> Colour-ringing, as we all know, dramatically increases recovery rates
> (for the large gulls, for instance, recovery rates for metal alone are
> between 3-6%, but with colour-rings recovery rates above 60% are
> possible). For researchers this is a no-brainer. Why use only metal?
> There are two reasons: if you have plenty of money and if you intend
> to live for several lifetimes… Therefore, Henk, I endorse your words
> and encourage others to help. Within the world of colour-ringing we
> are all engaged in finding out important things to do with the species
> we study. Sometimes, those who are deeply engaged tend to forget that
> co-operation brings the richest rewards…
>
> With all good wishes
>
> Peter
>
> Peter Rock
>
> 7, Parkside Avenue
>
> Winterbourne
>
> Bristol BS36 1LU
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:* cr-birding@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cr-birding@yahoogroups.com]
> *On Behalf Of *H.J. van Huffelen
> *Sent:* 13 November 2009 20:09
> *To:* Cr-Birding
> *Subject:* [cr-birding] soortscoordinatoren voor IWSG
>
> Hello all cr-birders,
> The IWSG heeft onlags een wisseling van de wacht gehad. Mark Collier has
> stepped down and Henk van Huffelen tekes the reins.
>
> The IWSG (Int Wader Study Group) is searching for dedicated coordinators
> for a nearly all wader species.
> The problem is the workload of all mails reported to the IWSG. We have
> to take measures to keep it human.
> I would like to emphasize that all ringers and observers would benefit a
> good communication between observers and ringers.
> That is why I put this mail in this newsgroup.
> I hope to find some new species coordinators per species.
> In the IWSG we are 120% active at this moment. Yesterday 50 mails were
> processed. We work with 2 persons, Jannik Hansen and me.
> In 2 days I found 3 new coordinators.
> Please feel yourself responsible for good communication between observer
> and ringer.
> Your work: "adopt" the resightings of the species and try to find the
> ringer.
> Report back the result: "succeeded or not succeeded."
> The IWSG fully takes their responsibility for the waders as is agreed
> with Euring.
> Help is welcomed very much.
> Hope to hear from you. Let my inbox explode!
> Best wishes, Henk van Huffelen CMR Officer IWSG
>
>

Hello all cr-birders,
The IWSG heeft onlags een wisseling van de wacht gehad. Mark Collier has
stepped down and Henk van Huffelen tekes the reins.

The IWSG (Int Wader Study Group) is searching for dedicated coordinators
for a nearly all wader species.
The problem is the workload of all mails reported to the IWSG. We have
to take measures to keep it human.
I would like to emphasize that all ringers and observers would benefit a
good communication between observers and ringers.
That is why I put this mail in this newsgroup.
I hope to find some new species coordinators per species.
In the IWSG we are 120% active at this moment. Yesterday 50 mails were
processed. We work with 2 persons, Jannik Hansen and me.
In 2 days I found 3 new coordinators.
Please feel yourself responsible for good communication between observer
and ringer.
Your work: "adopt"  the resightings of the species and try to find the
ringer.
Report back the result: "succeeded or not succeeded."
The IWSG fully takes their responsibility for the waders as is agreed
with Euring.
Help is welcomed very much.
Hope to hear from you. Let my inbox explode!
Best wishes, Henk van Huffelen CMR Officer IWSG

Dear CR readers and ringers,
As CMR Officer of the IWSG I would like to get in contact with Mark Bolton.
Who can help me (offline) to get his email adres. My mail came back
"undeliverable"
Same questions for Gaute Gronstol,Ingvar Byrkjedal,Terje Lislevand (all
lapwing ringers
Txs in advance, Henk van Huffelen IWSG

 

some pictures and info You can also find here: http://kolring.blogspot.com/

 

Best regards,

Marcin Sowa 

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