--- In crusers@yahoogroups.com, "paul_umbers" <paul.umbers@...> wrote:
>
> Found http://scottraymond.net/articles/2006/02/28/rails-1.1 today via
> Digg, detailing some of the features coming up in Rails 1.1 ... nice.
>

Very cool, indeed.  I've been drooling in anticipation of the RJS
templates for quite a while now.

Found http://scottraymond.net/articles/2006/02/28/rails-1.1 today via
Digg, detailing some of the features coming up in Rails 1.1 ... nice.

--- In crusers@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff P" <jeffperrin@...> wrote:

> A co-worker of mine just asked me if I'd joined the 'Cruisers' group
> yet.  I was a little miffed and offended

What's wrong with:

QTE
someone who stands out from the crowd by customising their car above
the standard specifications that the manufacturer provides. one who
should be considered god by all other non cruisers and demand respect
from fellow cruisers on the road.
UNQTE

Should it be "Java Programmers Anonymous" instead? :)

Alex Verkhovsky
ThoughtWorks Canada

--- In crusers@yahoogroups.com, "Jonathan Kohl" <jkohl@...> wrote:
> I think this would make a good CRUSERS-sponsored "Ruby skills fusion"
> meeting, where the more experienced Ruby programmers can help get
nubies up
> to speed.  The exchange could be cool, and I know I always learn a
lot when
> I try to teach just about anything, so even battle-hardened Rubyists
might
> learn from it.
>
> I agree it wouldn't be something CRUSERS would want to do all the time
> though.

Oh... pardon my North American :)

When I said "regular" I didn't mean rerunning it. Just that we may
want to do it outside of our regular (third Tuesday of a month)
schedule, because it may not be of interest to everybody in the group.

Anyway, does anybody want a session about Ruby development, tools,
documentation, etc strongly enough to actually organize it?
Or should we make it a subject of CRUSERS meeting in May?

To remind, we already have topics for March and April (introduction to
Rails and Canada On Rails conference, respectively).

Alex Verkhovsky
ThoughtWorks Canada

A co-worker of mine just asked me if I'd joined the 'Cruisers' group
yet.  I was a little miffed and offended, as my initial interpretation
of his question was a little bit different:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cruiser

Anyways, that's just something to think about (and will maybe explain
the strange look you'll receive when you're telling your wife/husband
where you're going for the evening).

Alex;

I think this would make a good CRUSERS-sponsored "Ruby skills fusion"
meeting, where the more experienced Ruby programmers can help get nubies up
to speed.  The exchange could be cool, and I know I always learn a lot when
I try to teach just about anything, so even battle-hardened Rubyists might
learn from it.

I agree it wouldn't be something CRUSERS would want to do all the time
though.

And I agree you'd make a good preacher for one of these meetings. :)

-Jonathan

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> Hi all,
>
> In our first meeting we had people who already work with
> Ruby, and people who are just learning it. Many of the latter
> group expressed an interest in learning about tools,
> documentation, and generally how to develop real software with Ruby.
>
> Is it a good topic for a regular CRUSERS meeting? Doesn't
> seem that way to me. But, maybe we can organize some sort of
> a demo for those who are interested. A two hours session
> during an evening should do it. I'd be happy to play the
> preacher this time, if somebody else takes an initiative to
> organize it.
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Hi all,

In our first meeting we had people who already work with Ruby, and
people who are just learning it. Many of the latter group expressed an
interest in learning about tools, documentation, and generally how to
develop real software with Ruby.

Is it a good topic for a regular CRUSERS meeting? Doesn't seem that way
to me. But, maybe we can organize some sort of a demo for those who are
interested. A two hours session during an evening should do it. I'd be
happy to play the preacher this time, if somebody else takes an
initiative to organize it.

Best regards,
Alex Verkhovsky

P.S. To everybody who subscribed to our Yahoo group in the last couple
of days: welcome!

Greetings all.

First of all, I've very pleased to find that there is a Ruby group in Calgary.

I've been using Ruby for the past 4 years to maintain my websites 1st-spot.net
and synaptix.com, mostly thru client side web scripting and meta-spiders.
It's been good using Ruby as an integral part of my day job.  I come from a
Perl/Unix/C++ background and so, at first for me, Ruby was a much better
Perl, keeping the facility with RE's that distinguishes Perl but being much
more expressive and having a much better object implementation.  And most
of all, I find that Ruby really puts the fun back into coding.  There's
something about working with this language that generates the experience of
"flow".

All this time (being a bit of a hermit), I've been alone in my use of Ruby
and I look forward to meeting others who are using this fantastic language.
I'm particularly interested in meeting others who have had positive
experience with Rails.

Harold Shore
hshore@...

> And once you subscribe, consider posting an introductory message,
> describing your programming background, how do you use Ruby, and what
> would you like to do in CRUSERS.

Well since I just subscribed I thought I'd post my "introductory
message".  My day job involves writing a fair amount of
Java/JSP/XML...  And in the evening (when I have time) I like to
retreat to the sanity of Ruby on Rails.  Check out my blog at
http://cocoalocker.blogspot.com/  for more of my random thoughts about
Rails and other development topics.

Darcy.

Calgary Ruby Users Society (otherwise known as Association of Anonymous
Java Programmers, Calgary branch) had it's first meeting today. After a
round of introductions, we discussed our interests and brainstormed
possible activities for the group. Paul Rogers did a presentation on
Watir [http://wtr.rubyforge.org/]. Watir is not just a great tool, but
also a way to sneak Ruby into your day job. ThoughtWorks Canada bought
the donuts.

  From now on, we are planning to meet once a month, generally on the
third Tuesday. Our next meeting will be in the second half of March
(date TBD), most probably a joint meeting with CJUG (Calgary Java Users
Group). The subject of the meeting will be Rails (but of course!)

So, if you like Ruby and live in Calgary, you are most welcome to join us.
Please subscribe to CRUSERS Yahoo Group:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/crusers/
And once you subscribe, consider posting an introductory message,
describing your programming background, how do you use Ruby, and what
would you like to do in CRUSERS.

Best regards,
Alex Verkhovsky

Thanks to everyone for turning up and listening.

The presentaion is available on my web site - www.paulrogers.ca

Thanks

Paul


----- Original Message -----
From: Alexey Verkhovsky <alex@...>
Date: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 5:05 pm
Subject: [crusers] Reminder: the meeting is tonight

> Just to remind, we are meeting tonight at 6:30 pm in George Harris
> Room, Knox United Church building.
>
> Paul Rogers is doing presentation on Watir.
> ThoughtWorks is buying the donuts :)
> Please be there.
>
> Alex Verkhovsky
> ThoughtWorks Canada
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Just to remind, we are meeting tonight at 6:30 pm in George Harris
Room, Knox United Church building.

Paul Rogers is doing presentation on Watir.
ThoughtWorks is buying the donuts :)
Please be there.

Alex Verkhovsky
ThoughtWorks Canada

--- In crusers@yahoogroups.com, "cst02048" <ronmombourquette@...> wrote:
>
> Hey All,
>
> Three of us from the SAIT software engineering program would love to
> attend the meetings. However we have class until 7pm on Wednesdays
> until the end of May. Is there any way the meetings could be held on
> any other night if it not to much to ask. Thanks.
>
> If not see you this summer.
>
> Ron Mombourquette
> Cory Smith
> Ivan Latak
>

The original plan was to have the meetings on the third Tuesday of the
month.

Planning for this one got away from us, and we had to book the meeting
room at the last minute, and ended up with the Wednesday.  Hopefully
we can do better next time.

Hey All,

Three of us from the SAIT software engineering program would love to
attend the meetings. However we have class until 7pm on Wednesdays
until the end of May. Is there any way the meetings could be held on
any other night if it not to much to ask. Thanks.

If not see you this summer.

Ron Mombourquette
Cory Smith
Ivan Latak

The place for tomorrow meeting is:

George Harris Room
Knox United Church
506 - 4th Street SW

There is a small entrance to the Knox United building on the left side
of 4th Street, about 100 meters south of 5th Av. Meeting room is very
near that entrance.

And here is the parking map:
http://www.knoxunited.ab.ca//logos/Parking%20Map.jpg

Best regards,
Alex Verkhovsky
ThoughtWorks Canada

--- In crusers@yahoogroups.com, "Lori Olson" <loriolson@...> wrote:

> And I already have a little star beside Paul's name for Watir.  But
> what about Instiki?

What about it? In David Hansson's words it's "yet another WikiClone
that is so beautiful to look at..." and all that jazz :)

Since I now have an enterprise computing job that doesn't suck, I
almost stopped working on it.

Alex Verkhovsky
ThoughtWorks Canada

Hi!

We should probably update the crusers (yahoo) calendar with the new date and
time...

:)

Cheers
James.

--- In crusers@yahoogroups.com, "Alexey Verkhovsky" <alex@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I've booked a meeting room in Knox United Church (506 4th St. SW) for
> our first meeting. It will be on Feb 22 (Wednesday), from 6:30 to 8:30 pm.
>
> This time there is no defined agenda, it will be just meeting each
> other and discussing what is everybody interested in.
>
> I am going to Knox United tomorrow to see the room etc, then I will
> post more detailed information about the place, parking options etc.
> See you there!
>
> Best regards,
> Alex Verkhovsky
> ThoughtWorks Canada
>

if i get time over this weekend I'll try and get a watir presentation done. Its
likely to be very similar to the camug one from November, but if we run short on
things, it may well do.

Longer term id like to come up with a more in depth one

Paul

----- Original Message -----
From: Lori Olson <loriolson@...>
Date: Saturday, February 18, 2006 0:42 am
Subject: [crusers] Re: Feb meeting: time and place

> --- In crusers@yahoogroups.com, "Alexey Verkhovsky" <alex@...> wrote:
>
> > In no particular order, I'd love it if somebody could show me
> how the
> > following things work:
> >
> > * SwitchTower
>
> I could do a talk on SwitchTower.
>
> > * Continuations
> > * Integration with native libraries
>
> I'd love to see either of these, too.
>
> > * ActiveRecord (or some other form of object-relational mapping)
> in
> > a Legacy Database Schema From Hell scenario
>
> Ha!  I know that Tim could do one of these
>
> > * Ruby driver for Selenium
> >
>
> Ooo.  That one too.
>
> And I already have a little star beside Paul's name for Watir.  But
> what about Instiki?
>
> > I hope it won't be another introduction to Rails... not that I can't
> > stomach just one more if that's what everybody wants though :)
> >
>
> I don't think that "Intro to Rails" would be useful.  The best intro
> to Rails is that video where (was that really DHH?) had WAY too much
> caffeine...
>
> http://www.loudthinking.com/arc/000478.html
>
> I was thinking of something with more detail.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

--- In crusers@yahoogroups.com, "Alexey Verkhovsky" <alex@...> wrote:

> In no particular order, I'd love it if somebody could show me how the
> following things work:
>
> * SwitchTower

I could do a talk on SwitchTower.

> * Continuations
> * Integration with native libraries

I'd love to see either of these, too.

> * ActiveRecord (or some other form of object-relational mapping) in
> a Legacy Database Schema From Hell scenario

Ha!  I know that Tim could do one of these

> * Ruby driver for Selenium
>

Ooo.  That one too.

And I already have a little star beside Paul's name for Watir.  But
what about Instiki?

> I hope it won't be another introduction to Rails... not that I can't
> stomach just one more if that's what everybody wants though :)
>

I don't think that "Intro to Rails" would be useful.  The best intro
to Rails is that video where (was that really DHH?) had WAY too much
caffeine...

http://www.loudthinking.com/arc/000478.html

I was thinking of something with more detail.

> 4. Presentation
> - this is open, so if anyone has requests, speak up. Otherwise we'll
> probably borrow a presentation from another Ruby user group and
> run with it.

In no particular order, I'd love it if somebody could show me how the
following things work:

* SwitchTower
* Continuations
* Integration with native libraries
* Rich UI toolkits
* ActiveRecord (or some other form of object-relational mapping) in a
Legacy Database Schema From Hell scenario
* Ruby driver for Selenium

I myself could do a presentation about:

* Test automation in a Rails project
* Rake
* Watir
* generally using Ruby for auxiliary tasks like builds, testing, data
migration, continuous integration etc in Java or .NET projects.

Speaking of Watir, Paul Rogers is obviously the best guy to talk about
it (he wrote most of it, after all).

I hope it won't be another introduction to Rails... not that I can't
stomach just one more if that's what everybody wants though :)

Best regards,
Alexey Verkhovsky
ThoughtWorks Canada

Hi all,

I've booked a meeting room in Knox United Church (506 4th St. SW) for
our first meeting. It will be on Feb 22 (Wednesday), from 6:30 to 8:30 pm.

This time there is no defined agenda, it will be just meeting each
other and discussing what is everybody interested in.

I am going to Knox United tomorrow to see the room etc, then I will
post more detailed information about the place, parking options etc.
See you there!

Best regards,
Alex Verkhovsky
ThoughtWorks Canada

Got another comment on my blog.  Looks like +3 for the Feb meeting,
probably SAIT students.

Sorry for the spam, but CJUG is at

http://www.cjug.com

Tim

Hi all,

Just a quick note to let you know we are planning to combine our March meeting
with that of
CJUG (Calgary Java User's Group).  Please see their web site

http://www.cjug.org

for more information.

Lori Olson and I will present an overview of differences between Ruby/Rails and
Java, plus go
through building a RoR web application from the perspective of Java developers.

I updated the CRUSERS homepage to allow people to subscribe to this
group easily.  The stats on the page say that we've had 239 hits, so I
have to think that we have people checking back often, looking for
more information.

http://crusers.org

gunter.sammet@...
hendie@...
paul.umbers@...
paul.rogers@...
christian@...
arif@...
ryan@...
wordpress@...
philduby@...

On the Ruby Wiki - http://rubygarden.com/ruby?CalgaryGroup we have
another 3 people who have expressed interest, but I have no emails

MidToad
Dave Lee
Jerry Seutter