We have two mostly-full "M-oxygen" tanks which we "rented" from Camcarb: http://www.camcarb.com/ We picked-up the tanks on November 27, 2003 and Gary Tripp's...
Dear all, I've written a short article about cryonics that intends to introduce people to the practice via internet and hardcopy publications. This is the sort...
Generally the cult manage to threaten editors enough to prevent stories (counter memes) about them from being published, major exceptions being Time's story...
Keith Henson
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Feb 4, 2005 3:59 pm
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Hi Anthony. While it is commendable that you want to "get the word out", I must say that this essay as currently conceived is not quite the word we want out....
Ben- I know for several years there has been a continuing discussion of moving surgery leading directly to vitrification in the field - is CI considering this,...
Brian, ... Who's "we"? Are you stating official CSC policy? ... But that is what it is, as stated in the essay. You are pronounced dead, then cryonics prevents...
... He's got ya there Brian :-) Yes, you need to define your "we"'s whenever you write them! See my essay: "Collectivism in Language: Its Effects on Valid...
... By "we", I simply mean cryonicists. ... dead, ... Look at it this way. A wounded soldier in Iraq is declared dead by local Iraqi officials. Now American...
... that ... Exactly! Death is not intrinsic to cryonics. The basic idea of cryonics doesn't contain death at all. ... Presenting Cryonics A typical...
... As shown in the essay, I'm aware of this. ... But it does prevent legally dead people from rotting away. ... If cryonics works. That cannot be shown until...
... Agreed. I approached the article from the "death" perspective when I started research past funeral practices, and whether they were intended to store a...
... Only if it is not a medical procedure prescribed for those in extremis alone, but includes euthansia cases for those who could still live a long, but...
... The concept of "legal death" has nothing to do with scientific reality. It is a pure artificial creation of government. Death and rotting are terms firmly...
... Only the scientific reality of not being able to revive a person with current technology. ... Yes, but if makes sense to differentiate them. ... Social...
... reality. ... with ... But many cases of legal death *can* be revived with current technology! That's what "no code" status, or DNR ("do not resuscitate")...
... reality. ... I leave this since Brian has already answered it brilliantly. ... relate an ... Only in the same way that one should differentiate between...
... If one's religion claims to uphold life as a value, and one acts to value life, then one is not being inconsistent with one's religion. The internal...
... True, but if I were a more sensative type, I'd probably be intimidated and silenced by the tone of these exchanges and find you both rather humourless....
... intimidated ... rather ... Sorry about that, and thanks for being receptive despite our tone. Strong feelings about this subject are a result of years and...
... Thanks for taking the time - and not correcting my spelling ;) I've read a lot online about cryonics, but little of it frames the practice in the terms you...
... Not "ideological", purely logical. ... Yes, I do have great difficulty trying to live a fully honest life in this world of gross logical inconsistency...
I feel that the following considerations are all pertinent to any group or individual seeking longer-life. All animals have evolved with a survival instinct....
... Paul, I am a former Seventh-Day Adventist (raised as such from the age of 7), and I would consider myself to be quite familiar with their beliefs and ...
... That is a reasonable criticism. Perhaps we appear that way because both of us have made this explanation time and time again. I know that I am tired of...
... Absolutely! It is highly unfortunately that so few cryonicists realize this and that so many in the medical establishment are so blind to the similarity to...
... Thanks Allan. That is good to know. Having been an atheist for over 45 years (and with agnostic parents that), I admit to knowing little about the...
I should further add that generally SDAs have an enlightened view of biology, and are advocates of both therapeutic cloning and even organ transplants from...
Hi everyone. Sorry for the email silence in the past couple of weeks. I am in the process of moving residences. For those of you familiar with the LA area, I...
Hi all, the coming meetup is on Thursday, February 24 at 7:00PM at the usual place: Le Commensal 655 Bay St. Toronto ON M5G 2K4 416-596-9364 Would be great if...
