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#192 From: "Eric Ramseur" <ramseur@...>
Date: Thu Jun 29, 2006 6:58 pm
Subject: Re: Custom provider woes Eramseur
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I dont get what you mean. If you set the properties in the web.config, ASP.NET 2.0 and membership do all the work for you. All you have to do is call Profile.LastName = Eric or whatever your property is. My syntax maybe off but the concept still exist. I dont know why you wuold need a class. If you want to have more control [ and searching] you can use the TableProfile Provider and generate yoru own classes from datasets. Either way, youre only 1 wizard away.

HTH

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#191 From: Tom Price <tom_price@...>
Date: Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:27 pm
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Essentially converts role table from a pure list to a b-tree allowing establishment of a role admin at any point in the structure who is responsible for their respective branch.

These admins, in turn, can delegate authority down the branch by connecting ids with admin rights (the IsAdmin flag) to a subordinate role.

IBM's RACF works similarly and allows you to make different folks responsible for different things. In the M$ world, the closest thing is probably an OU.

BTW, finally found a WROX book late yesterday http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0764596985/104-0486025-2059911?v=glance&n=283155 that showed how to use the ProvidersHelper class to instantiate my custom provider and call it outside of the Membership and Roles classes. That seems to be a reasonable solution, at least so far...

Eric Ramseur <ramseur@...> wrote:

Can you please explain what you mean by parent role? Do you mean you want a root role and sub roles? You can in affect have a parent super root role by just making calls to IF user is in role and checking if they are in your desired parent role. You can do all this through code instead of mucking the implementation of ASPNETDB.
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#190 From: "Eric Ramseur" <ramseur@...>
Date: Thu Jun 29, 2006 6:19 pm
Subject: SQL Server 2005 XML profile Provider Eramseur
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My project was accepted at codeplex for the xml profile provider. If anyone has expertise in XQuery or SQL Server 2005 XML, please just ask if you want to contribute. My provider will store profile data [ address,name,etc] as XML in SQL Server 2005 only which will allow for a more flexible searchable profile.

Review : http://www.codeplex.com/Wiki/View.aspx?ProjectName=XMLProfileProvider

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#189 From: Tom Price <tom_price@...>
Date: Wed Jun 28, 2006 7:40 pm
Subject: Re: Custom provider woes tom_price
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Thx, tried that but how do you get a profile class generated based on the information added to web.config?

Not a good fit for the other two tables, unless I'm missing something...

Eric Ramseur <ramseur@...> wrote:

Why dont you just store teh first name , last name in the profile instead of trying to mess with ASPNETDB. This is the reason they created the ASPNETDB system so you dont have to modify it unless you really need a complex system. In the profile API, you can make a profile property of first name and last name with 2 lines of code in the web.config.

On 6/28/06, Tom Price <tom_price@...> wrote:

Hello group,

OK, I've got the source code for the ASP 2.0 Providers and I'm trying to make a series of modifications.

I need to add extra fields to the membership and role records, specifically:

First/last name to the aspnet_membership table

Parent role to the aspnet_Roles table

RoleAdmin and a UserData field to the aspnet_UsersInRoles table

I'm looking for a strategy to get these values into the CreateUser, CreateRole, and AddUserToRole methods. I realize that the prototypes for these methods in the Membership and Role classes can't be extended to include the additional parameters. And, these classes seem to wait to instantiate a new provider until I invoke the CreateUser and CreateRole methods.

What makes sense to me is to somehow instantiate the custom provider beforehand, set a couple of custom properties, and then let my modified methods pick them up when I invoke it via Membership/Roles.

I don't want to use personalization on the role records.

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#188 From: "Eric Ramseur" <ramseur@...>
Date: Wed Jun 28, 2006 7:18 pm
Subject: Re: Custom provider woes Eramseur
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Can you please explain what you mean by parent role? Do you mean you want a root role and sub roles? You can in affect have a parent super root role by just making calls to IF user is in role and checking if they are in your desired parent role. You can do all this through code instead of mucking the implementation of ASPNETDB.
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#187 From: "Eric Ramseur" <ramseur@...>
Date: Wed Jun 28, 2006 7:15 pm
Subject: Re: Custom provider woes Eramseur
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Why dont you just store teh first name , last name in the profile instead of trying to mess with ASPNETDB. This is the reason they created the ASPNETDB system so you dont have to modify it unless you really need a complex system. In the profile API, you can make a profile property of first name and last name with 2 lines of code in the web.config.

On 6/28/06, Tom Price <tom_price@...> wrote:

Hello group,

OK, I've got the source code for the ASP 2.0 Providers and I'm trying to make a series of modifications.

I need to add extra fields to the membership and role records, specifically:

First/last name to the aspnet_membership table

Parent role to the aspnet_Roles table

RoleAdmin and a UserData field to the aspnet_UsersInRoles table

I'm looking for a strategy to get these values into the CreateUser, CreateRole, and AddUserToRole methods. I realize that the prototypes for these methods in the Membership and Role classes can't be extended to include the additional parameters. And, these classes seem to wait to instantiate a new provider until I invoke the CreateUser and CreateRole methods.

What makes sense to me is to somehow instantiate the custom provider beforehand, set a couple of custom properties, and then let my modified methods pick them up when I invoke it via Membership/Roles.

I don't want to use personalization on the role records.

What's the best way to accomplish this?

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#186 From: Tom Price <tom_price@...>
Date: Wed Jun 28, 2006 7:09 pm
Subject: Custom provider woes tom_price
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Hello group,

OK, I've got the source code for the ASP 2.0 Providers and I'm trying to make a series of modifications.

I need to add extra fields to the membership and role records, specifically:

First/last name to the aspnet_membership table

Parent role to the aspnet_Roles table

RoleAdmin and a UserData field to the aspnet_UsersInRoles table

I'm looking for a strategy to get these values into the CreateUser, CreateRole, and AddUserToRole methods. I realize that the prototypes for these methods in the Membership and Role classes can't be extended to include the additional parameters. And, these classes seem to wait to instantiate a new provider until I invoke the CreateUser and CreateRole methods.

What makes sense to me is to somehow instantiate the custom provider beforehand, set a couple of custom properties, and then let my modified methods pick them up when I invoke it via Membership/Roles.

I don't want to use personalization on the role records.

What's the best way to accomplish this?

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#185 From: "ilker onur kaya" <ilkeronurkaya@...>
Date: Mon Jun 26, 2006 8:12 pm
Subject: Re: Build your ASP.NET 2 apps faster ilkeronurkaya
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I was trying to say, "Please help!" :)

Thanks again..

On 6/26/06, ilker onur kaya <ilkeronurkaya@... > wrote:

Hi everyone,
I am trying to make an small uninstall program for my project. However, I dettach the database, clear the registers but I could not make an uninstall program that removes all the softaware after these steps. (detach and clear register)
Thanks,

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#184 From: "ilker onur kaya" <ilkeronurkaya@...>
Date: Mon Jun 26, 2006 8:11 pm
Subject: Re: Build your ASP.NET 2 apps faster ilkeronurkaya
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Hi everyone,
I am trying to make an small uninstall program for my project. However, I dettach the database, clear the registers but I could not make an uninstall program that removes all the softaware after these steps. (detach and clear register)
Thanks,

ilker onur kaya
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#183 From: "Eric Ramseur" <ramseur@...>
Date: Sun Jun 25, 2006 3:03 pm
Subject: Build your ASP.NET 2 apps faster Eramseur
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MS is finally understanding what we proffessionals need. Here is a new prototype that auto generates a pretty good data connected App. All you need is the LINQ assemblies installed on the machine running the generated applications. The generator is called BLINQ because its built upon the LINQ assembiles which allow for query C# structure.

Link to Blinq prototype [ the generator } : http://www.asp.net/sandbox/app_blinq.aspx?tabid=62

Link to the LINQ libs : http://msdn.microsoft.com/data/ref/linq/

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#182 From: "Eramseur" <ramseur@...>
Date: Sat Jun 24, 2006 9:38 pm
Subject: .NET 3.0 Webcasts and links Eramseur
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https://www1.msteched.com/content/webcasts.aspx  - some web casts on
Windows Workflow.

Get started on .NET 3.0

Labs:

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-dff70288a8bb&displaylang=en

2.2 Runtime (Only needed for SharePoint Workflow Integration):

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=5c080096-f3a0-4ce4-8830\
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State Machine Example:

http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/wfstatemachineaspnet.asp

WinFX (.NET 3.0) Home (Includes SDKs for download)

http://msdn.microsoft.com/windowsvista/downloads/products/getthebeta/default.asp\
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#181 From: "Eric Ramseur" <ramseur@...>
Date: Thu May 25, 2006 8:50 pm
Subject: Vista review Eramseur
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I did two blog entrys on Vista. One on vista in general and one with Rainbow [ C# / .net 2] .

Rainbow : http://url123.com/gbae5

Vista Reviw : http://url123.com/gb5wp

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#180 From: "Eric Ramseur" <ramseur@...>
Date: Mon May 8, 2006 3:22 pm
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I glad to see our membership is up to 40 now from the 15 members we had a couple of months ago. I am sorry not to give more discussions in this group as I am crazy busy. I am currently going after my MVP, guiding Rainbow Portal on 2.0 framework to dominate the open source market, creating new products on 2.0 with the crazy influx of new components, and trying to keep up with 4 blogs.

Anywho, I would love to have a conversation/discussion about .NET 2.0/red hat linux/ mysql. This IMO could be a strong force in the near feature. Ive only used linux/mysql when I did work for web hosting clients and would like to know more. I know mono 2.0 wont be out till Q3 2006 [ if they are lucky] but want to get a head start. If anyone knows about great free red hat linux enterprise resources, please shoot me an email.

Help? If anyone needs help with C# or .NET in general, please dont hesitate to ask. I have 3 email alerts and answer email faster than a cell phone. I am always interested in what real developers are doing and ways to make their lives easier. Its the reason why I work on rainbow for it allows you to plug web applications into a open source alternative [ like sharepoint].

Ajax? If anyone needs any ajax help, I can offer many solutions as I am a dev for Magic Ajax and am testing out atlas.

Blog Topics? Im always in need to find something to write about and Im only human when I run out of topics. If you see a reoccurring question on a forum or you personally want to figure something out, please ask the group and Ill post about it.

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#179 From: "Eric Ramseur" <ramseur@...>
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#177 From: "glabana2003" <glabana2003@...>
Date: Tue Apr 18, 2006 8:28 pm
Subject: Re: Partial classes / Code behind and the app_code glabana2003
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I agree, I think I don't really have any choice! Thanks for the help
and input!

--- In csharp2@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Ramseur" <ramseur@...> wrote:
>
> I think its best just to store DAL, BLL, and classes that are not
associated
> with pages [ as they will be in another assembly like you stated]
and
> precompile your site.  Its the same affect that you are trying to
achieve
> and its a better modle.  I think you discovered the reason why you
shouldnt
> put your page codebehinds in app_code.
>
> On 4/18/06, glabana2003 <glabana2003@...> wrote:
> >
> >  Hi Eric,
> >
> > Thanks for the quick reply.
> >
> > Firstly the url of the MSDN article is at:
> >
> > http://msdn.microsoft.com/asp.net/default.aspx?pull=/library/en-
> > us/dnvs05/html/Internals.asp
> >
> > I understand the point you are making. However on this MSDN
article
> > they state that you can put your code behind partial classes in
the
> > App_code folder (Unless I am misunderstanding).
> >
> > I think that this is not true!
> >
> > The reason is that from my understanding is that the asp 2
> > compilation model now uses partial classes for both the aspx and
the
> > code behind and then at runtime combines the 2 partial classes
into
> > one class. This is better performing then asp 1.1. as before all
> > code behind classes were complied into an application DLL and
then a
> > temporary DLL was created for each aspx requested by the web
> > client.
> >
> > However all classes in the App_code folder are compiled into a
> > separate assembly and thus the aspx cannot be joined to the code
> > behind and hence my error message.
> >
> > I agree with your comments that we should precomplie web apps,
but I
> > would like to be able to add my code behind partial classes to
the
> > app_code folder as stated in the MSDN article.
> >
> > this is what they say:
> >
> > Full runtime compilation� At the other extreme of deployment
> > precompilation, ASP.NET 2.0 provides a new mechanism to compile
the
> > entire application at runtime. That is, you can put your
uncompiled
> > code-behind files and any other associated code in the new
\app_code
> > directory and let ASP.NET 2.0 create and maintain references to
the
> > assembly that will be generated from these files at runtime. This
> > option provides the greatest flexibility in terms of changing Web
> > site content at the cost of storing uncompiled code on the
server.
> >
> > Any thoughs / corrections will be welcomed.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Garry
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In csharp2@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Ramseur" <ramseur@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Code-behind classes are best reserved for in the application
> > directory as
> > > they get complied by ASP.NET and this could cause issues of a
> > compile
> > > twice.  You should only put things like Business Language layer
> > classes or
> > > DAL classes in app_code.  Other things are assemblyInfo.cs and
cs
> > files that
> > > are part of components and not code-behind for pages.  If you
want
> > to trully
> > > compile your site, you should precompile it using Publish or
from
> > command
> > > prompt:
> > >
> > >
> > > Precompile apps by command prompt :
> > > http://eramseur.blogspot.com/2005/12/precompile-your-aspnet-
> > apps.html
> > >
> > > On 4/18/06, glabana2003 <glabana2003@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >  Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I get the following error when I put my code behind partial
class
> > > > (Myfile.aspx.cs) into the App-code folder:
> > > >
> > > > Error 106 The file '/MyApp/Logon.aspx.cs' is in the special
> > > > directory 'App_Code', which is not allowed.
> > > >
> > > > Is this true, are you not allowed to put code behind source
> > files in
> > > > to the App_code directory?.
> > > >
> > > > The following article from MSDN states otherwise under the
> > section
> > > >
> > > > Compilation in ASP.NET 2.0
> > > >
> > > > Can some please enlighten me
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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#176 From: "Eric Ramseur" <ramseur@...>
Date: Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:40 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Partial classes / Code behind and the app_code Eramseur
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I think its best just to store DAL, BLL, and classes that are not associated with pages [ as they will be in another assembly like you stated] and precompile your site. Its the same affect that you are trying to achieve and its a better modle. I think you discovered the reason why you shouldnt put your page codebehinds in app_code.

On 4/18/06, glabana2003 <glabana2003@...> wrote:

Hi Eric, Thanks for the quick reply. Firstly the url of the MSDN article is at: http://msdn.microsoft.com/asp.net/default.aspx?pull=/library/en- us/dnvs05/html/Internals.asp I understand the point you are making. However on this MSDN article they state that you can put your code behind partial classes in the App_code folder (Unless I am misunderstanding). I think that this is not true! The reason is that from my understanding is that the asp 2 compilation model now uses partial classes for both the aspx and the code behind and then at runtime combines the 2 partial classes into one class. This is better performing then asp 1.1. as before all code behind classes were complied into an application DLL and then a temporary DLL was created for each aspx requested by the web client. However all classes in the App_code folder are compiled into a separate assembly and thus the aspx cannot be joined to the code behind and hence my error message. I agree with your comments that we should precomplie web apps, but I would like to be able to add my code behind partial classes to the app_code folder as stated in the MSDN article. this is what they say: Full runtime compilation� At the other extreme of deployment precompilation, ASP.NET 2.0 provides a new mechanism to compile the entire application at runtime. That is, you can put your uncompiled code-behind files and any other associated code in the new \app_code directory and let ASP.NET 2.0 create and maintain references to the assembly that will be generated from these files at runtime. This option provides the greatest flexibility in terms of changing Web site content at the cost of storing uncompiled code on the server. Any thoughs / corrections will be welcomed. Cheers Garry
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#175 From: "glabana2003" <glabana2003@...>
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Hi Eric,

Thanks for the quick reply.

Firstly the url of the MSDN article is at:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/asp.net/default.aspx?pull=/library/en-
us/dnvs05/html/Internals.asp

I understand the point you are making. However on this MSDN article
they state that you can put your code behind partial classes in the
App_code folder (Unless I am misunderstanding).

I think that this is not true!

The reason is that from my understanding is that the asp 2
compilation model now uses partial classes for both the aspx and the
code behind and then at runtime combines the 2 partial classes into
one class. This is better performing then asp 1.1. as before all
code behind classes were complied into an application DLL and then a
temporary DLL was created for each aspx requested by the web
client.

However all classes in the App_code folder are compiled into a
separate assembly and thus the aspx cannot be joined to the code
behind and hence my error message.

I agree with your comments that we should precomplie web apps, but I
would like to be able to add my code behind partial classes to the
app_code folder as stated in the MSDN article.

this is what they say:

Full runtime compilation� At the other extreme of deployment
precompilation, ASP.NET 2.0 provides a new mechanism to compile the
entire application at runtime. That is, you can put your uncompiled
code-behind files and any other associated code in the new \app_code
directory and let ASP.NET 2.0 create and maintain references to the
assembly that will be generated from these files at runtime. This
option provides the greatest flexibility in terms of changing Web
site content at the cost of storing uncompiled code on the server.

Any thoughs / corrections will be welcomed.

Cheers
Garry

--- In csharp2@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Ramseur" <ramseur@...> wrote:
>
> Code-behind classes are best reserved for in the application
directory as
> they get complied by ASP.NET and this could cause issues of a
compile
> twice.  You should only put things like Business Language layer
classes or
> DAL classes in app_code.  Other things are assemblyInfo.cs and cs
files that
> are part of components and not code-behind for pages.  If you want
to trully
> compile your site, you should precompile it using Publish or from
command
> prompt:
>
>
> Precompile apps by command prompt :
> http://eramseur.blogspot.com/2005/12/precompile-your-aspnet-
apps.html
>
> On 4/18/06, glabana2003 <glabana2003@...> wrote:
> >
> >  Hi,
> >
> > I get the following error when I put my code behind partial class
> > (Myfile.aspx.cs) into the App-code folder:
> >
> > Error 106 The file '/MyApp/Logon.aspx.cs' is in the special
> > directory 'App_Code', which is not allowed.
> >
> > Is this true, are you not allowed to put code behind source
files in
> > to the App_code directory?.
> >
> > The following article from MSDN states otherwise under the
section
> >
> > Compilation in ASP.NET 2.0
> >
> > Can some please enlighten me
> >
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#174 From: "Eric Ramseur" <ramseur@...>
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Code-behind classes are best reserved for in the application directory as they get complied by ASP.NET and this could cause issues of a compile twice. You should only put things like Business Language layer classes or DAL classes in app_code. Other things are assemblyInfo.cs and cs files that are part of components and not code-behind for pages. If you want to trully compile your site, you should precompile it using Publish or from command prompt:

Precompile apps by command prompt : http://eramseur.blogspot.com/2005/12/precompile-your-aspnet-apps.html

On 4/18/06, glabana2003 <glabana2003@...> wrote:

Hi, I get the following error when I put my code behind partial class (Myfile.aspx.cs) into the App-code folder: Error 106 The file '/MyApp/Logon.aspx.cs' is in the special directory 'App_Code', which is not allowed. Is this true, are you not allowed to put code behind source files in to the App_code directory?. The following article from MSDN states otherwise under the section Compilation in ASP.NET 2.0 Can some please enlighten me Cheers

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#173 From: "glabana2003" <glabana2003@...>
Date: Tue Apr 18, 2006 10:40 am
Subject: Partial classes / Code behind and the app_code glabana2003
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Hi,

I get the following error when I put my code behind partial class
(Myfile.aspx.cs) into the App-code folder:

Error 106 The file '/MyApp/Logon.aspx.cs' is in the special
directory 'App_Code', which is not allowed.

Is this true, are you not allowed to put code behind source files in
to the App_code directory?.

The following article from MSDN states otherwise under the section

Compilation in ASP.NET 2.0

Can some please enlighten me

Cheers

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#172 From: "Eric Ramseur" <ramseur@...>
Date: Mon Apr 17, 2006 4:30 pm
Subject: Re: Need Inputs on NHibernate. Eramseur
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NHibernate is primarily tested on Microsoft SQL Server 2000. It is also known to work on these databases:

On 4/17/06, Eric Ramseur < ramseur@...> wrote:

http://www.hibernate.org/361.html

All the info you need. It supports all the major plus some minor.

On 4/17/06, Purav Gandhi <purav.gandhi@...> wrote:

How about using NHibernate ?

Regards,

Purav Gandhi

From: csharp2@yahoogroups.com [mailto: csharp2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Ramseur Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 9:59 AM
To: csharp2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [csharp2] Need Inputs on NHibernate.

IBATIS supports orcale,mysql and mssql.

On 4/17/06, Purav Gandhi < purav.gandhi@...> wrote:

Hi,

I started using nettiers but the problem is that it does not support Oracle. Can anyone suggest me some tool which supports oracle, mysql, & MS Sql. I would really thank you if you have any code generators which would create a DAL for me.

Thanx,

Purav Gandhi

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Subject: Re: [csharp2] Need Inputs on NHibernate.

Purav, What version of the .net framework are you using? I suggest [ for any version] you look into some free code generators. They can make your sprocs for you and install them into yoru db as long as you have access. This can save you a lot of time and effort and you can learn as you go. My fav generator is however not free but has a 30 day trial and def worth a look. It works with my microsoft dbs and creates ALL Sprocs for insert,update,delete,select all , select by id. It also can look at your DB structure and from your mappings see what extra sprocs you need. So if you have two tables that ref each other then you will get an extra Sproc to allow you to insert. Here is the download : http://www.radsoftware.com.au/codegenerator/ Another one is codeSmith but a little more advanced.

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#171 From: "Eric Ramseur" <ramseur@...>
Date: Mon Apr 17, 2006 4:29 pm
Subject: Re: Need Inputs on NHibernate. Eramseur
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http://www.hibernate.org/361.html

All the info you need. It supports all the major plus some minor.

On 4/17/06, Purav Gandhi <purav.gandhi@...> wrote:

How about using NHibernate ?

Regards,

Purav Gandhi

From: csharp2@yahoogroups.com [mailto: csharp2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Ramseur Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 9:59 AM
To: csharp2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [csharp2] Need Inputs on NHibernate.

IBATIS supports orcale,mysql and mssql.

On 4/17/06, Purav Gandhi < purav.gandhi@...> wrote:

Hi,

I started using nettiers but the problem is that it does not support Oracle. Can anyone suggest me some tool which supports oracle, mysql, & MS Sql. I would really thank you if you have any code generators which would create a DAL for me.

Thanx,

Purav Gandhi

From: csharp2@yahoogroups.com [mailto: csharp2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Ramseur Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 9:31 PM To: csharp2@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [csharp2] Need Inputs on NHibernate.

Purav, What version of the .net framework are you using? I suggest [ for any version] you look into some free code generators. They can make your sprocs for you and install them into yoru db as long as you have access. This can save you a lot of time and effort and you can learn as you go. My fav generator is however not free but has a 30 day trial and def worth a look. It works with my microsoft dbs and creates ALL Sprocs for insert,update,delete,select all , select by id. It also can look at your DB structure and from your mappings see what extra sprocs you need. So if you have two tables that ref each other then you will get an extra Sproc to allow you to insert. Here is the download : http://www.radsoftware.com.au/codegenerator/ Another one is codeSmith but a little more advanced.

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#170 From: "Purav Gandhi" <purav.gandhi@...>
Date: Mon Apr 17, 2006 4:43 am
Subject: RE: Need Inputs on NHibernate. gandhipurav
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How about using NHibernate ?

Regards,

Purav Gandhi

From: csharp2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:csharp2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Ramseur
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 9:59 AM
To: csharp2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [csharp2] Need Inputs on NHibernate.

IBATIS supports orcale,mysql and mssql.

On 4/17/06, Purav Gandhi <purav.gandhi@...> wrote:

Hi,

I started using nettiers but the problem is that it does not support Oracle. Can anyone suggest me some tool which supports oracle, mysql, & MS Sql. I would really thank you if you have any code generators which would create a DAL for me.

Thanx,

Purav Gandhi

From:csharp2@yahoogroups.com [mailto: csharp2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Ramseur
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 9:31 PM
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Subject:Re: [csharp2] Need Inputs on NHibernate.

Purav,

What version of the .net framework are you using? I suggest [ for any version] you look into some free code generators. They can make your sprocs for you and install them into yoru db as long as you have access. This can save you a lot of time and effort and you can learn as you go. My fav generator is however not free but has a 30 day trial and def worth a look. It works with my microsoft dbs and creates ALL Sprocs for insert,update,delete,select all , select by id. It also can look at your DB structure and from your mappings see what extra sprocs you need. So if you have two tables that ref each other then you will get an extra Sproc to allow you to insert.

Here is the download : http://www.radsoftware.com.au/codegenerator/

Another one is codeSmith but a little more advanced.

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#169 From: "Eric Ramseur" <ramseur@...>
Date: Mon Apr 17, 2006 4:28 am
Subject: Re: Need Inputs on NHibernate. Eramseur
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IBATIS supports orcale,mysql and mssql.

On 4/17/06, Purav Gandhi <purav.gandhi@...> wrote:

Hi,

I started using nettiers but the problem is that it does not support Oracle. Can anyone suggest me some tool which supports oracle, mysql, & MS Sql. I would really thank you if you have any code generators which would create a DAL for me.

Thanx,

Purav Gandhi

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Subject: Re: [csharp2] Need Inputs on NHibernate.

Purav, What version of the .net framework are you using? I suggest [ for any version] you look into some free code generators. They can make your sprocs for you and install them into yoru db as long as you have access. This can save you a lot of time and effort and you can learn as you go. My fav generator is however not free but has a 30 day trial and def worth a look. It works with my microsoft dbs and creates ALL Sprocs for insert,update,delete,select all , select by id. It also can look at your DB structure and from your mappings see what extra sprocs you need. So if you have two tables that ref each other then you will get an extra Sproc to allow you to insert. Here is the download : http://www.radsoftware.com.au/codegenerator/ Another one is codeSmith but a little more advanced.

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#168 From: "Purav Gandhi" <purav.gandhi@...>
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Hi,

I started using nettiers but the problem is that it does not support Oracle. Can anyone suggest me some tool which supports oracle, mysql, & MS Sql. I would really thank you if you have any code generators which would create a DAL for me.

Thanx,

Purav Gandhi

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#167 From: "Eric Ramseur" <ramseur@...>
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Purav,

What version of the .net framework are you using? I suggest [ for any version] you look into some free code generators. They can make your sprocs for you and install them into yoru db as long as you have access. This can save you a lot of time and effort and you can learn as you go. My fav generator is however not free but has a 30 day trial and def worth a look. It works with my microsoft dbs and creates ALL Sprocs for insert,update,delete,select all , select by id. It also can look at your DB structure and from your mappings see what extra sprocs you need. So if you have two tables that ref each other then you will get an extra Sproc to allow you to insert.

Here is the download : http://www.radsoftware.com.au/codegenerator/

Another one is codeSmith but a little more advanced.

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#166 From: "Mohamed A. Meligy" <Eng.Meligy@...>
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that's NHibernate or .NET Tiers ?

I don't know about NHibernate, but, if .NET Tiers, you'll find very comprehensive quick start on that in their site.

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Hi Mohamed, I have installed it and created the dll, but I don't get how to insert a particular row in the db. I have a table named Role, I get a method called CreateRole(int id, string s); I try to insert and that is fine, but it does not reflect this in the db. Can you tell me please how to insert it into the db. Regards, Purav Gandhi From: csharp2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:csharp2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mohamed A. Meligy Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 4:52 PM To: csharp2@yahoogroups.com Cc: Visual_Studio_Dot_Net@yahoogroups.com ; Microsofts_C_Sharp@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [csharp2] Need Inputs on NHibernate. Preferably use .NET tiers. Read about it at www.nettiers.com I think On 4/15/06, Purav Gandhi < purav.gandhi@...> wrote: Hi DotNet Masters, I am a newbie to .Net, I just wanted to know, what to use as a db layer. Using NHibernate is good or not, pros and cons for using it. Please let me know Regards, Purav Gandhi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "csharp2 " on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: csharp2-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Regards, Mohamed Ahmed Meligy Solution Developer / Freelance .NET Consultant GNS eGroup - A Mansour Company ( enabling e-business) http://www.GNSeGroup.com E-mail: Eng.Meligy@... Weblog: http://www.GeeksWithBlogs.NET/Mohamed Mobile: +20 10 603 3013

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#165 From: "Eric Ramseur" <ramseur@...>
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I would take a look at IBATIS [ google search it] or Nhibernate. I would say the pros of IBATIS is that its not db dependent and can support any feature the db currently has. It also plan to use everything nhibernate uses. It also uses nhibernate to store somethings [ they are currently testing things]. All you have to do is write raw SQL or use SPROCS and you can support any db through XML files.

Nhib is more supported and has a bigger community that IBATIS but doesnt make it better. Its more the .NET approach to dbs and has some db reliant stuff. Take for example the xml node type. Nhib would have to make something special for storing in xml node type in 2005 but IBASTIS wouldnt :).

Personally, if you are starting out to make a dal layer...I wouldnt start with object persistance. I would start with the free Micfosot Enterprise libraries. They get the job done and take 4 lines of code to do pretty much most things. In pre beta of .net you had to write pure ADO.NET code to do anything and look how far weve come . [ of course im 24 and dont about the old old days but still :)]

HTH

On 4/15/06, Mohamed A. Meligy <Eng.Meligy@...> wrote:

Preferably use .NET tiers.

Read about it at www.nettiers.com I think

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Hi DotNet Masters, I am a newbie to .Net, I just wanted to know, what to use as a db layer. Using NHibernate is good or not, pros and cons for using it. Please let me know Regards, Purav Gandhi

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#164 From: "Purav Gandhi" <purav.gandhi@...>
Date: Sat Apr 15, 2006 3:49 pm
Subject: RE: Need Inputs on NHibernate. gandhipurav
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Hi Mohamed,

I have installed it and created the dll, but I don’t get how to insert a particular row in the db. I have a table named Role, I get a method called CreateRole(int id, string s);

I try to insert and that is fine, but it does not reflect this in the db. Can you tell me please how to insert it into the db.

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Purav Gandhi

From: csharp2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:csharp2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mohamed A. Meligy
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Subject: Re: [csharp2] Need Inputs on NHibernate.

Preferably use .NET tiers.

Read about it at www.nettiers.com I think

On 4/15/06, Purav Gandhi <purav.gandhi@...> wrote:

Hi DotNet Masters,

I am a newbie to .Net, I just wanted to know, what to use as a db layer. Using NHibernate is good or not, pros and cons for using it. Please let me know

Regards,

Purav Gandhi

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