> and which is the verb for the onomatopeea the raven makes? Every
> language must ( I guess ) have a verb for this special sound make by
> crows and raves.
> In rom this is "a croncăni".
E.g. Polish <kruk> 'raven', <krakac'> 'croak (like a raven)'. English
<croak> is of course onomatopoeic itself.
... and which is the verb for the onomatopeea the raven makes? Every language must ( I guess ) have a verb for this special sound make by crows and raves. In...
... by ... English ... ************ I will add here Alb. <krrok> 'to caw, to crow', suffixed form <krrokat> 'id.', n. krrokamë 'caw', all of onomatopoeic...
... corvid's ... root, ... it ... and ... conspicuous. ... Whence English etc. 'crow' and Germanic *xro:kaz > English 'rook', and I have vague recollection of...
... The 'horn, antler, head' etymon is definitely different from the corvid set, and involves *k^, not *k; more precisely, it's *k^r.-n- or *k^er-h2-, with...
... _curvare_ 'curve, ... between ... corvid ... large ... *k-? Pokorny (root #919) has a nice set of 'magpie' words, e.g. Sanskrit _sa:rika:_ 'Indian magpie'...
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 00:25:54 +0200, Piotr Gasiorowski ... On the subject of ornithology (off topic): since a couple of years, the city where I live (Hilversum,...
... the ... over by ... any ... Veneres ... sparrows) have ... wide- ... Just Magpies in Manchester, but the Crows are terrible in Moscow, although their...
... They are certainly rooks. Rooks are colonial and like to claim city parks as their rookeries. Ravens, which are much bigger and to a lesser extent...
... Ravens used to be rare in the eastern U.S. outside of wilderness areas of the north (Maine, New Hampshire, the Adirondack mountains of upstate New...
... I hadn't seen those. ... also ... initial ... likely than ... like 'magpie' > ... and the Greek 'raven' _korax_. Can we not also include Latin corvus,...
... It's hard to be sure about anything here, especially in view of all that possible onomatopoeic reshaping. I've always thought of <corvus> as somehow...
At 5:52:19 AM on Wednesday, August 20, 2003, tgpedersen ... Old word. According to SAOB the Swedish word is from OSw <korper>; ON has <korpr>. According to...
... sure, ... E.A. Poe in Finnish? What next? Even though 'raven' is a loan from Swedish, 'crow' seems to be in most FU languages. Hung. - varja' Finnish -...
... ************ I am afraid that Hungarian <szarka> and Romanian <tzarka> are derived from Slavic _arka_ 'colored bird' (cf. ara 'spot' with big family of...
... But Slavic has (*s(v)arka: >) *s(v)orka, becoming <soroka> ~ <s(v)raka> ~ <sroka> in the modern languages. This word is a far more likely, not to say...
... Isn't this just an attempt to portray the bird's call? The two sites in my last post give the Old English name as - "Ceo ... [or] ... Ceahhe" not too...
... I was amused by the definitely un-corvine sound of "Nevermore" in the Finnish translation. If that's any comfort, most Polish translations of "The Raven"...
... the ... translations of ... It's not without some merit. "Korppi huus: ei milloinkaan". "Huus" would often be written "huusi" in prose. The /i/ is 3rd...
... Isn't ... secondary ... is ... two ... ************ I believe that also Alb. <qep> 'beak', prefixed form <sqep> 'beak; bill', singularized plural <qip>...
... hmmm there is the same semantism for the root "cor-" coroi= name for several small predatory birds like the falcons( cf DEX, "coroi" < Hungarian "karvaly")...
... why should be a magpie associated with the crow or raven? Just because they are birds? Their noise does not sound simmilar and they are not looking alike....
... If the Rom. word is from Slavic, then it cannot be a direct loan from Slavic but a loan trough an intermediary language. The Hungarian "sz" is pronounced...
... derived ... family ... also ... suffix). ... from ... It ... ************ As far as I remember Hungarian gula(S)(Alt+0154 or like first sound in English...
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