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45185
... Er, are those labio-velars or "labiovelar + w"s ? What would constitute the difference soundwise? (If possible, could you give examples to explain?)...
C. Darwin Goranson
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Jul 1, 2006
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45186
... the labiovelars seems to be a theoretical joker. By myelf I don't consider them for have beeing for real. Instead of this I prefer the Rumanian living...
alex
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Jul 1, 2006
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45187
***HOW TO BEHAVE ON CYBALIST*** Moderatorial Recommendations and Rules of Proper Conduct The purpose of Cybalist is to popularise Indo-European studies and to...
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45188
In Italian there is an opposition between "qu" and "cu", examples: qui-here, quieto-still, cui-which, acuito-sharp The difference is that in "qu", the labial...
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Jul 2, 2006
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45189
*rebh- `to roof'. Oldest form seems to be *H3rebh-. 1. Alb. <brinjë> `rib, hillside' from suffixed zero-grade form *H3r.bh-n-yeH2: Old English ribb `rib': Old...
Abdullah Konushevci
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45190
... German ... chest ... the ... (Pokorny 2. ... Correction: bravare 'sheep und the care of a village herdsman'...
Abdullah Konushevci
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Jul 2, 2006
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45191
*** Patrick: And what would convince anyone of the initial *H3? ... From: Abdullah Konushevci<mailto:akonushevci@...> To:...
Patrick Ryan
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Jul 2, 2006
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45192
... And what would convince anyone of the initial *H2 in *kous- 'to hear'. I think Greek form akouein 'to hear'. And, in case of *rebh-, I think it is Albanian...
Abdullah Konushevci
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Jul 2, 2006
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45193
... allow me please the question. Where is the labiovelar in "qui, queito"? I have the feeling they are written with "qu" just because of the tradition and...
altamix
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Jul 3, 2006
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45194
... It doesn't until you demonstrate, using independent evidence, that *h3- ... Piotr...
Piotr Gasiorowski
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Jul 3, 2006
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45195
... stops? ... Whatever they are, they're from Latin qu- which is from PIE *kW. But the /a/ has not been influenced by it, it's still /a/, in spite of your ...
tgpedersen
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Jul 3, 2006
7:14 am
45196
The following quote, from Matisoff, James A. Handbook of Proto-Tibeto-Burman : system and philosophy of Sino-Tibetan reconstruction should, given the subject...
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Jul 3, 2006
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45197
... because Aren't you confusing Spanish and Italian (which easily happens)? However in Spanish qu still has a distinct function as a "hardener" before fronted...
squilluncus
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Jul 3, 2006
8:08 am
45198
Another irrelevance from Matisoff: " (6) FIRE/BURN/SHINE/BRIGHT/LIGHT This `spectacular' word-family was first presented in JAM 1997 (`Laryngeals'). First of...
tgpedersen
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Jul 3, 2006
9:23 am
45199
... the "c" and "q" in "cu" and "qu" has the same quality in my opinion. I don't hear a difference there. ... we don't mean Latin poetry here, we mean Italian...
altamix
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Jul 3, 2006
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45200
I am speking about contemporary Italian, not the development of the phonems or distinctions. As far as I can see, there is a phonemic difference between qu and...
aquila_grande
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Jul 3, 2006
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45201
... just ... anymore ... OK. The labio-part must have been kept long after the general palatalisation in the west contrary to Roumanian. As for aqua and che I...
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Jul 3, 2006
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45202
... From: Abdullah Konushevci<mailto:akonushevci@...> To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com<mailto:cybalist@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 6:32 PM ...
Patrick Ryan
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Jul 3, 2006
2:37 pm
45203
... hear'. ... think ... *h3- ... ************ OK. Lets take other example: *rebh- `to move, hurry'. Probably extended root of *er-. 1. Alb. <revan> `fast...
Abdullah Konushevci
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Jul 3, 2006
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45204
... 'to ... I ... that ... *reb- ... but ... could ... Or, better, lets take other example *reg'- 'to lead, rule, to move in a stright line'. Oldest attested...
Abdullah Konushevci
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Jul 3, 2006
4:27 pm
45205
In Italian cui is stressed on the /u/ as kúi, qui- is stressed on the /i/ as /kwi-/ ... because Aren't you confusing Spanish and Italian (which easily...
Rick McCallister
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Jul 3, 2006
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45206
... From: Abdullah Konushevci<mailto:akonushevci@...> To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com<mailto:cybalist@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 10:04 AM ...
Patrick Ryan
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5:28 pm
45207
On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 01:13:55 +0200, Miguel Carrasquer ... Another case of V:RHV is bêlU (a.p. b), from *bhé:lHos, syllabification bhe:l-Hos, with first...
Miguel Carrasquer
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Jul 3, 2006
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45208
... The 'rib' word has likely cognates in Greek -- the verb <erépto:> 'cover, provide with a roof' (*h1rebH-je/o-) and its lexical family. If there ever was...
Piotr Gasiorowski
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Jul 3, 2006
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45209
Speaking of Italian qu- as the group has been, I was wondering if anyone knew the origin of <qu-> in Italian <quello> "that", <questo> "this", presumably from...
Andrew Jarrette
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Jul 3, 2006
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45210
On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 17:47:38 -0400 (EDT), Andrew Jarrette ... It's shortened from *accu(m), an emphatic particle, as in Port. aquele, Sp. aquel, OSp. aquese,...
Miguel Carrasquer
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Jul 3, 2006
10:11 pm
45211
Really, but *bh > Greek ph: *bhH-n-yo > phainein 'to shine', Alb. <bënj> 'to do, to bring to light'; *bha-k'o > Greek phagos 'lentil', Alb. <bathë> 'broad...
Abdullah Konushevci
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Jul 3, 2006
10:31 pm
45212
... <bënj> 'to ... <bathë> ... Compare as well, besides *H3reH1g'-, *H3reH1d- 'to scrape, scratch, gnaw'. 1. Alb. <brenj> 'to gnaw': Lat. ro:dere 'id.' from...
Abdullah Konushevci
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Jul 4, 2006
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45213
... anyone knew the origin of <qu-> in Italian <quello> "that", <questo> "this", presumably from Latin <ille, illud> and <iste, istud> with <qu> prefixed....
altamix
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Jul 4, 2006
5:18 am
45214
... What do you take me for, Abdullah? :) *bH does give /pH/ in this root, cf. the derivatives I quoted, such as <óropHos>. However, in the present tense of...
Piotr Gasiorowski
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