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63723
... What makes you think *Baza- 'bare' and *Bo:sma- 'bosom' _should_ be related? Piotr...
Piotr Gasiorowski
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Apr 2, 2009
9:10 pm
63724
... Hello Piotr, I could answer you in the same way as you did: What makes you think they shouldn't? Marius...
alexandru_mg3
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Apr 2, 2009
9:35 pm
63725
... We normally don't assume that two words are related until somebody presents a good reason to suspect that they are. One doesn't have to prove...
Piotr Gasiorowski
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Apr 2, 2009
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63726
... But now talking seriously: 1. A similar phonetism bHVs- 2. ...linked to a specific semantism : Because both of them make reference to something...
alexandru_mg3
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Apr 2, 2009
10:14 pm
63727
... Was it refarded as a characteristically _bare_ body part among the Germani? *Bo:sma- doesn't even necessarily refer to the breast(s). I know the word best...
Piotr Gasiorowski
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Apr 2, 2009
10:24 pm
63728
... 1. I agree on the 'swollen' attribute of this 'body part' or of 'that area' -> maybe this attribute could be the originar one than 'the naked'...
alexandru_mg3
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Apr 3, 2009
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63729
... bHám.sas- - as it is neuter, the final /s/ is part of the stem. It's on p742, and the meaning is given as 'a particular part of the intestine or...
Richard Wordingham
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Apr 3, 2009
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63730
... In German, der Busen /'bu:z&n/ (Old High Germ. buosam, buosum.) means (1) "breast/s;" (2) a gulf: Meerbusen (syn. Bucht, Meeresbucht, Meeresarm, Golf)....
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Apr 3, 2009
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63731
... DEO: I. barm en "bryst'; glda., no., sv. d.s., oldnord. baðmr (en nyere form, dannet eft. faðmr 'favn'), nyisl. barmur, got. barms, oldsax., oldhty. barm...
tgpedersen
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Apr 3, 2009
10:31 am
63732
... English 'bosom buddy'. Brian...
Brian M. Scott
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Apr 3, 2009
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63733
... Thanks, Richard. Could somebody help with the derivation of bHám.sas- from a root bHes- as Pokorny indicated ? I'm not sure what is the transformation...
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Apr 3, 2009
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63734
... http://www.sanskrit-lexicon.uni-koeln.de/scans/MWScan/MWScanjpg/mw0742-brAhmaNi.jpg 'bHám.sas- a particular part of the intestine or of the abdomen RV....
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63735
... http://www.sanskrit-lexicon.uni-koeln.de/scans/MWScan/MWScanjpg/mw0742-brAhmaNi.jpg ... If you look at ...
Richard Wordingham
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Apr 3, 2009
6:52 pm
63736
... <m.> (anusva:ra) indicates the nasalisation of the preceding vowel, which is how all underlying nasals are realised before a fricative in Sanskrit. <n.>...
Piotr Gasiorowski
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Apr 3, 2009
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63737
... Is clear now, thanks. Marius...
alexandru_mg3
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Apr 3, 2009
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63738
... So the reconstruction is PIE bHVs-m-so- > Skt. bhám.sas? Thanks again, Marius...
alexandru_mg3
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Apr 3, 2009
7:15 pm
63739
... No. First of all, the Skt. stem is consonantal, i.e. it reflects an *-os/-es- stem without a final *-o-. Secondly, an interconsonantal *m would have been...
Piotr Gasiorowski
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Apr 3, 2009
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63740
... " where the bHos- derivatives are 'a kind of swollen limb' (abdominal part, bosom part, foot part)" I will add here : Skt. bhasád 'pudendum mulier, penis...
alexandru_mg3
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Apr 3, 2009
7:42 pm
63741
... But Piotr, the word is under bHes-2 at Pokorny (see Pok. 146) And I cannot think see that Pokorny can made such a trivial mistake....to link a word to a...
alexandru_mg3
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Apr 3, 2009
7:46 pm
63742
... Also my opinion is that no vocalisation is need in bHVs-mso- (PIE m. > Skt. a) Because the supposed word bHVs-mso- would have been had 2 syllables: /...
alexandru_mg3
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Apr 3, 2009
7:57 pm
63743
... I know. But it's one of the shakiest roots in the whole book. ... There's plenty of _extremely_ doubtful stuff in Pokorny. ... Two points: (a) *bHes-...
Piotr Gasiorowski
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Apr 3, 2009
8:25 pm
63744
... Skt. bhasád 'a genital part' could be also *bHos-m.-d- Marius...
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Apr 3, 2009
8:26 pm
63745
... Unfortunately, speakers of PIE and Old Indic didn't think so. /ms/ was not a permissible syllable onset in either language, nor was /sm/ a permissible...
Piotr Gasiorowski
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Apr 3, 2009
8:33 pm
63746
... Still an open syllable. Piotr...
Piotr Gasiorowski
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Apr 3, 2009
8:34 pm
63747
... So Pokorny (Pok.146) was an idiot, thinking to bHes-2 here? Marius...
alexandru_mg3
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Apr 3, 2009
9:18 pm
63748
... In Skt. bhasád 'a genital part' we clearly have PIE *bHVs- very probable *bHos- Also a semantic link with Germanic *bo:smaz 'bosom' and with PIE *bhosos...
alexandru_mg3
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Apr 3, 2009
9:25 pm
63749
... No. He was most likely wrong in that case, which surely doesn't make him "an idiot". It's human to err, and the best and wisest of us also make mistakes. ...
Piotr Gasiorowski
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Apr 3, 2009
9:36 pm
63750
... We don't seem to understand the words "clearly" and "probable" in the same way. Of all the PIE vocalisms *o is the least likely one here (no Brugmann's...
Piotr Gasiorowski
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Apr 3, 2009
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63751
... Before to consider that he made 'an error' viewing an -s- where it isn't....I need to know his ideea first (that is not explicitly there...)...this was my...
alexandru_mg3
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Apr 3, 2009
9:50 pm
63752
... Just because is similar,yes: - both from a phonetic bHVs- - as from a semnatic point of view 'bHVs-' 'a swollen limb of the body (we have: bosom limb,...
alexandru_mg3
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