Thank you very much, Glen, for this summary of your view. Some questions (excuse my ignorance): - If I understand you well, IYO the Bandkeramiker must have...
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Glen Gordon
glengordon01@...
May 1, 2001 11:48 pm
... Doesn't a question automatically imply ignorance? And since when was a question offensive? :) I find people who _don't_ ask questions offensive. ... Of...
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Glen Gordon
glengordon01@...
May 1, 2001 11:52 pm
... T'as raison. Je me suis tromper un peu. En fait, il y a le mot /is^u:/ "avoir"... mais je dois en penser encore. C'est drole. Je ne me souviens plus de...
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Piotr Gasiorowski
gpiotr@...
May 2, 2001 1:27 am
IV VERBS: The PIE Voices The standard reconstruction of PIE recognises two voices, the active and the middle (I'll use the latter term as handy shorthand for...
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Glen Gordon
glengordon01@...
May 2, 2001 3:13 am
... That would be great. I remember reading your stress thing but it didn't seem "short". It seemed quite comprehensive. ...
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Asvard Hrafn Istvansson
asvardhrafn@...
May 2, 2001 12:11 pm
I am new to the list and would like some help with a pet project. Any info on PIE deities and the etymolgy and derivations involved. All theories welcome. Also...
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Piotr Gasiorowski
gpiotr@...
May 8, 2001 12:35 pm
It seems several members' computers were infected with Badtrans-A. The next hapless victim is Silvin Kosak. Yahoo has suddenly closed the list archives to...
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Andrei Markine
andrey@...
May 8, 2001 12:41 pm
Something is strange about this list. I can understand three roots for "sheep", three roots for "goat". But five roots for "he-goat"?.. And how to explain...
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Marc Verhaegen
marc.verhaegen@...
May 8, 2001 1:13 pm
... If the LBKs spoke Semitic (not unlikely?: the first farmers into Europe), they could have had direct contact with PIE, no? Perhaps this "Semitish" ...
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Piotr Gasiorowski
gpiotr@...
May 8, 2001 1:17 pm
Would *pah2u- (paulus, paucus, few, etc.) fit the bill? Why not a singular form (an uncountable word; the neuter Nom./Acc. is just *pah2u)? The instrumental of...
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Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
mcv@...
May 8, 2001 4:50 pm
On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 20:34:55 -0000, "Lisa Jacqueline Emerson" ... I probably used /t_/, the traditional transcription (t-underscore), or /T/, the ASCII-IPA way...
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Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
mcv@...
May 8, 2001 5:01 pm
On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 20:48:19 -0000, "Lisa Jacqueline Emerson" ... The traditional interpretation is that PIE *t became Germanic *T (thorn), except where...
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Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
mcv@...
May 8, 2001 5:20 pm
On Mon, 07 May 2001 15:01:17 -0000, "Piotr Gasiorowski" ... I do not doubt that Szemerényi's on the right track. Maybe we can start from *-dhwom, as in Skt....
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Christopher Gwinn
sonno3@...
May 8, 2001 7:05 pm
Does anyone know offhand the PIE etymology of the Latin -ô / -ônis (gen.) endings? I am specifically interested in this because some Celtic names are ...
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Piotr Gasiorowski
gpiotr@...
May 8, 2001 7:39 pm
Pokorny's favourites are roots producing verbs of motion, glossed "bewegen" or the like; there must be scores of them. There's nothing strange about that; ANY...
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Glen Gordon
glengordon01@...
May 8, 2001 7:51 pm
One matter of clarification... I use "Semitoid" to refer to both Semitish AND Semitic languages. Whereas "Semitish" is under the Semitoid umbrella, refering to...
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Marc Verhaegen
marc.verhaegen@...
May 8, 2001 9:47 pm
From the MotherTongue list: "I have just read (on Funknet) of the passing of Joseph Greenberg. Certainly a scholar of many talents, as well as a maverick...
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João S. Lopes Filho
jodan99@...
May 8, 2001 10:51 pm
It's the IE ending *-o:n, -o:nos In Portuguese the Latin -o: (-onem) developped into -a~o , a augmentative suffix: cf. lobo "wolf", loba~o "big wolf" ... From:...
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Steve Woodson
wood2@...
May 8, 2001 11:57 pm
Thanks Piotr. ... From: Piotr Gasiorowski To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com ; Silwin.Kosak@... ; Cyril Babaev ; C. Gwinn ; Mark Odegard ; Glen Gordon ;...
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Piotr Gasiorowski
gpiotr@...
May 9, 2001 7:52 am
It's PIE *-o:n/*-(o)n- with the long vowel of the Nom.sg. generalised analogically in the other cases. The generalisation of strong vocalism in Latin has ample...
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Piotr Gasiorowski
gpiotr@...
May 9, 2001 9:54 am
... From: Glen Gordon To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [tied] Semitoid, PIE, Tyrrhenian, etc. ... I wouldn't...
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petegray
petegray@...
May 9, 2001 1:29 pm
... velar stop, I have never heard of it as an emphatic, only as a post-velar stop. But the difference between a pharyngealised velar and a post-velar must be...
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petegray
petegray@...
May 9, 2001 1:29 pm
... from verb endings. Yes, I remove the "of course" ! It would be nice to derive it from verb endings, if that were possible. There may be two bits of...
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Christopher Gwinn
sonno3@...
May 9, 2001 2:35 pm
Thank you João and Piotr for your help with this. -Chris Gwinn...
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MCLSSAA2@...
May 9, 2001 3:40 pm
Someone wrote:- ... The Hebrew word for "wine" is "yayin". Perhaps it was Semitic or Semitoid people spread the grapevine and how to make wine....
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MCLSSAA2@...
May 9, 2001 3:46 pm
Someone wqrote:- ... It seems easy to me. In most finite verb forms in Italic, the ending could be passivized by appending an "r", but in the 2nd person plural...
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Piotr Gasiorowski
gpiotr@...
May 9, 2001 5:47 pm
Unpronounceable?? What was the mysterious ending that became unpronounceable with an "r" appended to it? The PIE 2pl. middle ending was something like *-dHwe....
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petegray
petegray@...
May 9, 2001 7:34 pm
... Pokorny offers *alp- as well as the *po:u / p@u / pu: / pu root that Piotr mentioned. (You'll find these under "small" in the list I've posted (with...
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petegray
petegray@...
May 9, 2001 7:34 pm
... Surely the -a~o ending is from the Latin -atio? Or have I mis-remembered? Peter...
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Piotr Gasiorowski
gpiotr@...
May 9, 2001 10:41 pm
Perhaps you have. My impression is that the regular development of -a:tio:n(em) is -ação, and that final -o:n(em) developed as João says it did. Piotr ... ...