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Re: "Deemed" jurisdiction / disclaimed personal jurisdiction

I've run into these only in unilateral contracts -- two TOS, two are
non-negotiable software licenses. I wouldn't be counseling a client to
agree to these in a negotiated contract, for obvious reasons.

Warren E. Agin wrote:
> I'm not sure how this adds anything if you've already negotiated an exclusive
jurisdiction provision in the contract. Are you spotting these in terms of
service provisions or negotiated contracts?
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: Carol Shepherd
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> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 3:44 PM
> Subject: "Deemed" jurisdiction / disclaimed personal jurisdiction
>
>
> I just saw my third or fourth instance of a contract provision along the
> lines of:
>
> "You agree that 1. the site, services and platform shall be deemed
> solely based in [STATE] and 2. the site shall be deemed a passive
> website that does not give rise to personal jurisdiction over us, either
> specific or general, in jurisdictions other than [STATE]."
>
> This seems to be at best hopeful and at worst in terrorem but I've
> probably missed some relevant developments.
>
> Can anyone point me to state or federal caselaw (conflicts of laws or
> jdx, contracts cases, or otherwise) which would support this gambit?
> --
>
> Carol Ruth Shepherd, Esq.
> VP/General Counsel Loud Feed, Inc. | http://loudfeed.com
> Principal, Arborlaw PLC | http://arborlaw.biz
> 734.717.4646 v 734.786.1241 f
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Carol Ruth Shepherd
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Ann Arbor MI USA
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I just saw my third or fourth instance of a contract provision along the lines of: "You agree that 1. the site, services and platform shall be deemed solely...
Carol Shepherd
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Sep 17, 2008
8:22 pm

I'm not sure how this adds anything if you've already negotiated an exclusive jurisdiction provision in the contract. Are you spotting these in terms of...
Warren E. Agin
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Sep 18, 2008
2:36 pm

I've run into these only in unilateral contracts -- two TOS, two are non-negotiable software licenses. I wouldn't be counseling a client to agree to these in...
Carol Shepherd
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Sep 18, 2008
3:54 pm

The provision doesn't make a lot of sense to me. You may consent to personal jurisdiction, but I don't think you can "deem" it away. In a two party contract...
Stephen T. Middlebrook
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Sep 18, 2008
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