http://interviews.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/03/03/1528247 Slashdot ISP Operator Barry Shein Answers Spam Questions Posted by Roblimo on Monday March 03,...
R. A. Hettinga
rah@...
Mar 4, 2003 1:56 pm
45896
... Better idea: Sender pays recipient. A wholly voluntary mail protocol, that any ISP can offer, or not. Customers have the option of using the protocol by...
John Noble
jnoble@...
Mar 4, 2003 3:51 pm
45897
... Who gets the money for e-mail sent, but not received? Who gets to pay for the fraud investigations? Who is stuck with the uncollectables? Here is a story...
Sean Donelan
sean@...
Mar 4, 2003 4:00 pm
45898
Haven't had a chance to read the decision yet, but today, in Mosely v. Secret Catalogue, Inc., the Supreme Court unanimously reversed the summary judgment...
James S. Tyre
jstyre@...
Mar 4, 2003 4:40 pm
45899
====== today, in Mosely v. Secret Catalogue, Inc., the Supreme Court unanimously reversed the summary judgment granted to Victoria's Secret and against...
James S. Huggins (Cyb...
Cyberia@...
Mar 4, 2003 5:10 pm
45900
... If there's no credit, there's no debit. If the recipient doesn't use the $ protocol, there's also no debit. ... Think class action, RICO, treble damages....
John Noble
jnoble@...
Mar 4, 2003 5:39 pm
45901
[snip] If there's no credit, there's no debit. If the recipient doesn't use the $ protocol, there's also no debit. [/snip] One question. How do we identify...
Drew Lehman - DigitaE...
dlehman@...
Mar 4, 2003 5:54 pm
45902
RE: Supreme Court decision reversing 259 F.3d 464 The decision sets an evidentiary requirement that, in cases wherein the marks at issue are not identifical,...
Ebert, Lawrence B.
LEbert@...
Mar 4, 2003 5:54 pm
45903
... Doesn't this effectively mean that the more famous the mark is, the less likely it will be diluted? (or more precisely, the more famous the mark, the...
Mike Oliver
me@...
Mar 4, 2003 7:01 pm
45904
... How effective has the "sender pays" requirement been at reducing the volume of junk snailmail? --Mike -- ... "I speak the password primeval .... I give the...
Mike Godwin
mnemonic@...
Mar 4, 2003 7:10 pm
45905
Directionally, I think this case will make the federal antidilution law more difficult to use by famous mark holders, at least in cases involving nonidentical...
Ebert, Lawrence B.
LEbert@...
Mar 4, 2003 7:28 pm
45906
... I'm going to get in tech trouble here, but the "real" money is in a "real" trust account controlled by the "$mail Authority", for lack of a better term,...
John Noble
jnoble@...
Mar 4, 2003 7:49 pm
45907
... Well I don't get more than 3-4 a day in my PO Box, compared to the 80-100 UCE's I get every day, and Uncle Sam keeps all the money. Plus, nobody ever sends...
John Noble
jnoble@...
Mar 4, 2003 8:23 pm
45908
How would pay-as-you-send work for lists like Cyberia? Does the list owner pay? Or do I have to shell out $20 bucks every time I post? I could create an...
Stephen T. Middlebrook
Stephen.Middlebrook@...
Mar 4, 2003 8:38 pm
45909
... I'd say pretty well. If I only got as much e-mail SPAM as I do junk mail in my mailbox everyday or every other day, I'd be pretty happy. Plus, I think...
Kevin Neely
ktneely@...
Mar 4, 2003 9:11 pm
45910
So how effective has the US Postal Service been? http://www.usps.com/postalinspectors/smutmail.htm ...
Sean Donelan
sean@...
Mar 4, 2003 9:16 pm
45911
I found this in an internet news letter and thought you would be interested in it, as we had a conversation about some of this not long ago. Arrest Me By...
Virginia Metze
vmetze@...
Mar 4, 2003 9:18 pm
45912
... This is the usual problem with "junk mail." For people who don't get very much, it isn't a problem. Then one day they end up on the wrong list, and get...
Sean Donelan
sean@...
Mar 4, 2003 9:25 pm
45913
And me too. Thomas E. Reilly ... From: "Virginia Metze" <vmetze@...> To: <CYBERIA-L@...> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 4:18 PM Subject:...
Thomas E. Reilly
treilly@...
Mar 4, 2003 11:52 pm
45914
... I'm repeating myself, but the protocol allows you to provide your mother or cyberia-l with a token that allows only the token holder to send mail only to...
John Noble
jnoble@...
Mar 5, 2003 1:29 am
45915
... Let me refine that. As I think about it, there's no reason it has to be tiered or even reciprocal. You could set your own price for received email --...
John Noble
jnoble@...
Mar 5, 2003 1:29 am
45916
Spam-assassin didn't like Bob forwarding the discussion with Barry :-) I'm assuming that the item weights are set by my ISP, but the categories of things it...
Bill Stewart
bill.stewart@...
Mar 5, 2003 2:50 am
45917
John Noble has gotten the basic clue that almost all sender-pays systems fail unless they're sender-pays-recipient (or sender-pays-recipient's-agent, which is...
Bill Stewart
bill.stewart@...
Mar 5, 2003 3:55 am
45918
... Status: RO From: Barry Shein <bzs@...> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:34:49 -0500 To: "R. A. Hettinga" <rah@...> Subject: Re: [CYBERIA]...
R. A. Hettinga
rah@...
Mar 5, 2003 3:56 am
45919
... Status: RO From: Barry Shein <bzs@...> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:20:24 -0500 To: "R. A. Hettinga" <rah@...> Subject: Re: [CYBERIA]...
R. A. Hettinga
rah@...
Mar 5, 2003 3:56 am
45920
... Nothing about my proposal requires an infrastructure of any kind, and nothing in Barry's slashdot piece speaks to the proposal. It's a software solution,...
John Noble
jnoble@...
Mar 5, 2003 4:45 am
45921
... Hmm ... Perhaps I *will* read the opinion, but the way it was reported here (Victor's Secret is in the Louisville television market), it was a complete...
Randall
rvh40@...
Mar 5, 2003 5:10 am
45922
... This is a variation of "I don't get much snail junk mail, so it must not be a problem for anyone else." If you watch the periodic hearings Congress holds...
Sean Donelan
sean@...
Mar 5, 2003 5:13 am
45923
... Aren't cyberia-l messages archived on the web? "Friends come and friends go, but google is forever". ...
Randall
rvh40@...
Mar 5, 2003 6:18 am
45924
... I have an equaintance of twenty-some years who lives in Malaysia. Insightbb has an optional spam filter. When it is on, I get NO spam, but my friend in...
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