Sigh. Big Sigh. These are false analogies. There is a big difference between snipping out an article from a copy you purchase and fiddling with the browser to...
Peter Wayner
pcw2@...
Mar 1, 2005 12:41 pm
49235
This is America- we should be able to come up with an easy solution for this. One that of course involves expense to consumers... How about this idea: A...
Martin Klingmeyer
martinwk@...
Mar 1, 2005 12:49 pm
49236
... Cute. But wrong. If the marketplace subverts the advertising, it won't get the content formerly supported by it. You're certainly welcome to pay nothing...
Peter Wayner
pcw2@...
Mar 1, 2005 1:27 pm
49237
... Cute, but begging the question. (If the marketplace subverts the advertising, then it won't get the content formerly supported by advertising in the...
Martin Klingmeyer
martinwk@...
Mar 1, 2005 1:46 pm
49238
... See http://skepdic.com/begging.html for a definition of begging the question. I'm not claiming to prove anything. And I'm not assuming this will happen....
Peter Wayner
pcw2@...
Mar 1, 2005 2:09 pm
49239
Oh please. There's no response to this kind of melodrama other than "cry me a river." An important way that we reason about the world -- both in law and in ...
Paul Gowder
paultopia@...
Mar 1, 2005 2:10 pm
49240
... I don't think that discussing the copyright merits, etc. is irrelevant. You really have two options here, proceeding under copyright, or under contract. If...
Bruce Hayden
bhayden@...
Mar 1, 2005 2:49 pm
49241
... Yes, that's true. You can choose your previous situations and I'll choose mine: * Satellite Television-- I can think of at least one satellite television...
Peter Wayner
pcw2@...
Mar 1, 2005 2:52 pm
49242
... I don't really like this analogy because when you go to the restort, you know what the requirements of the agreement are. You hopefully go in there with...
Bruce Hayden
bhayden@...
Mar 1, 2005 3:04 pm
49243
... The problem here is that for the most part, you don't know in advance how much, and precisely the content, of the advertising that you are about to...
Bruce Hayden
bhayden@...
Mar 1, 2005 3:21 pm
49244
... And he uses tools to figure out how good of a deal this is. ... Well, theoretically, I agree. ... They also help people - maybe more people than they hurt....
Bruce Hayden
bhayden@...
Mar 1, 2005 3:34 pm
49245
... Yes, and the bigger ones hopefully have some good idea of how many of the newspapers are actually sold, how big the households are, etc. ... YOu are...
Bruce Hayden
bhayden@...
Mar 1, 2005 3:55 pm
49246
... But you look at this totally from the point of view of the advertiser. You can't because contracts have two parties, and you have to look at the reasonable...
Bruce Hayden
bhayden@...
Mar 1, 2005 4:24 pm
49247
Hey Bruce, good to see you chiming in on this one. ... Yea, totally, That's why I've been saying (for some time now) that we need to get over the silly idea...
Paul Gowder
paultopia@...
Mar 1, 2005 4:37 pm
49248
What bugs me about a lot of this (c) analysis is that people dig down a little bit into the technology and then pronounce a conclusion. But they don't fully...
Stephen T. Middlebrook
Stephen.Middlebrook@...
Mar 1, 2005 5:11 pm
49249
... I agree it's a bit silly. And my question is "What is it a copy of?" stm ********************************************************************** For...
Stephen T. Middlebrook
Stephen.Middlebrook@...
Mar 1, 2005 5:18 pm
49250
... question. YAH! Thanks Peter... Off topic, but I'm so glad someone else understands this term correctly. I'm so tired of seeing it used with the meaning of ...
roberthelmer@...
Mar 1, 2005 6:50 pm
49251
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 06:01 am, Peter Wayner <pcw2@...> ... Are you seriously trying to suggest that the advent of the VCR lead to cable and then...
Joshua Tinnin
smogmonster@...
Mar 1, 2005 7:32 pm
49252
I used the word "hasten". Please read what I wrote again. It's not a cause and effect relationship by any stretch of the imagination. I do feel that it's clear...
Peter Wayner
pcw2@...
Mar 1, 2005 8:07 pm
49253
... From: Law & Policy of Computer Communications [mailto:CYBERIA-L@...] On Behalf Of Peter Wayner Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 7:31 AM To:...
Chris Savage
chris.savage@...
Mar 2, 2005 12:36 am
49254
... It seems to me that a correlation between advertising and content is assumed. I don't grant that assumption. Thus, the statement is begging the question....
Martin Klingmeyer
martinwk@...
Mar 2, 2005 1:02 am
49255
... How much of this is the fault of the FCC? ... ESPN pays the University of Louisville far more money for exclusive broadcast rights than the local FOX...
Randall
rvh40@...
Mar 2, 2005 1:42 am
49256
... Not during Pledge Week. ********************************************************************** For Listserv Instructions, see...
Randall
rvh40@...
Mar 2, 2005 1:45 am
49257
Just in case anyone here is paying attention to the case, today was the Supreme Court filing deadline for Respondents (Grokster and StreamCast) and their...
James S. Tyre
jstyre@...
Mar 2, 2005 2:06 am
49258
... I agree. I have tried to do a more thorough job at: http://bhayden.blogspot.com/2005/03/firefox-adblock-infringement-part-2.html But in short, my argument...
Bruce Hayden
bhayden@...
Mar 2, 2005 5:07 pm
49259
I am helping spread the word about a great e-politics conference. Check out the full agenda: http://www.ipdi.org/politicsonline Also, next week I'll be hosting...
Steven Clift
slc@...
Mar 2, 2005 8:35 pm
49260
Here's the thing. At bottom, I think this technical stuff is irrelevant and wrongheaded, no matter which side you come out on. The word "copy" (or affixed in...
Paul Gowder
paultopia@...
Mar 3, 2005 1:53 pm
49261
... Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 23:20:58 -0600 (CST) From: Andrew Odlyzko <odlyzko@...> To: Andrew Odlyzko <odlyzko@...> Subject: FYI: paper about...
R.A. Hettinga
rah@...
Mar 3, 2005 2:05 pm
49262
... I don't have much of a problem saying that if you modify the HTML, or maybe even the Javascript, you probably have infringement (in a similar way that you...
Chris Mohr
cmohrworld@...
Mar 3, 2005 6:35 pm
49263
http://tinyurl.com/67r7s State officials attack Web site, alleging trademark violation Harrodsburg man used logo on 'satirical' site 03/06/05 ...
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