Interesting initiative -- prevention being better than cure, I guess.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Jacob Hale Russell [mailto:jrussell@...]
Sent: 04 October 1999 06:58
To: undisclosed recipients: ;
Subject: Justice Dept. to Launch Anti-Hacking Campaign Aimed at Kids


Article from The Industry Standard:
<http://www.thestandard.com/articles/display/0,1449,6711,00.html>

     ============================================================
     Justice Dept. Funds Antihacking Campaign
     by Keith Perine

     WASHINGTON ­ The Justice Department is trying to save
     children before they turn into hackers.

     [snip]

     Figuring that it's too late to reform terrorists and
     spies, the ITAA decided to concentrate on the kids. The
     campaign, which debuts in January, will initially target
     children 12 and under, aiming to teach them proper
     online behavior and to instill a healthy disdain for
     hacking. The association wants to "help weed out some of
     the less meaningful system violations by curious
     children so that law enforcement can focus on the true
     criminals," says ITAA President Harris Miller.
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To illustrate the problems associated with accepting e-mail as evidence
(which we discussed at the panel), here is a comment relating to the US
situation:

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Subject: Part of new encryption export policy


>From EPIC Alert 6.15:

  "Under the latter
provision, law enforcement agents presenting "plaintext" evidence
would be exempted from routine requirements of criminal procedure that
permit a defendant to explore the means by which evidence was
obtained."

This relates to protecting the confidentiality of the techniques by which
the government decrypted a document and presented the plain text version as
evidence.  It seems to me that under this provision there is nothing to
prevent the law enforcement agencies from creating a fictional document and
presenting it as evidence.

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OK, now that we are all back home after the busy conference, let us settle
down to how we want to use this excellent collection of legal minds we have
here. Some suggestions made were:

1) Prepare our own version of a draft IT bill. We were agreed that the
government drafts are trying to do too much. Could we put together a
minimalist version? Firstly, what must such a bill contain? Where there is a
difference of opinion among us, we could frankly list out the different
views, and the reasoning.
2) Collaborate on a challenge to the Internet telephony policy of the
government. I am already working on this, got some ideas from Stephen when
he was here, Pavan was keen on this one too. The first step would be to put
together the arguments, technical, legal, and developmental.
3) Perhaps a faq on cyberlaws -- what must one read in order to appreciate
the problems in this area? I'm sure if we all checked our bookmarks, we
would come up with quite a neat list.

Any other ideas?

Arun Mehta, B-69, Lajpat Nagar-I, New Delhi-110024. Phone 6841172, 6849103
http://www.cerfnet.com/~amehta

> From: cidco@... [mailto:cidco@...]
> Sent: 24 September 1999 20:13
> To: cyberlaw-india@egroups.com
> Subject: [cyberlaw-india] Copy of Draft Cyber laws
>
>
> I attended the IIW 99 and attended the panel discussion as well as talk
> by Anand Sudarshan.I did not find the panel discussion very
> engrossing.

Well, this is hardly Robert Ludlum competition -- legal stuff is mostly dry.
But do tell us how we might improve the panel discussion next year.

>I suppose this was due to paucity of time.

Isn't there a slight contradiction here? I mean, if it was boring, you'd
hardly have wanted it to have gone on longer, now would you?

>Could I know where
> to get a copy of the draft cyber laws waiting for enactment

Srivatsa said something about the doe.ernet.in site, I think, did you try
there? Anyone has the url readily available?

Arun Mehta, B-69, Lajpat Nagar-I, New Delhi-110024. Phone 6841172, 6849103
http://www.cerfnet.com/~amehta

I attended the IIW 99 and attended the panel discussion as well as talk
by Anand Sudarshan.I did not find the panel discussion very
engrossing.I suppose this was due to paucity of time.Could I know where
to get a copy of the draft cyber laws waiting for enactment

What a pleasure to have faces to put to the names, and nice young faces at
that! I suspect once again I was the oldest. As one grows older, I have the
sneaky feeling that this happens more often -- sigh!

Thanks for your wonderful work on the panel, all of you, a pleasure to see
fine legal minds in action. (I say this as an old LA Law addict, not to
mention Aly Mcbeal and the Practice.) Also, I enjoyed the inputs of the
non-legals in this debate. So thanks, audience, too, I hope you took my
advice and joined.

Debate on the issues we left out due to lack of time is hereby open. I
subscribe to the Irish saying that when God made time, S/he made plenty.

Arun Mehta, B-69, Lajpat Nagar-I, New Delhi-110024. Phone 6841172, 6849103
http://www.cerfnet.com/~amehta

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> From: krishna@... [mailto:krishna@...]
> Sent: 21 September 1999 11:25
> To: cyberlaw-india@egroups.com
> Cc: mehta@...; ssreeram@...
> Subject: [cyberlaw-india] Re: FW: Cyberlaw PANEL AT IIW'99
>
>
> Hi
> I have sent my brief resume twice before.here it is once more . My
> designation is Executive Director, Andhra Pradesh Technology Services,
> Government of Andhra Pradesh.
>
> u have got seshagiri, krishna details wrong.
> regards
> Srivatsa

I know about your mistake, but don't worry: I will ask each panelist to
introduce himself so no mistakes will be made there.

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> From: krishna@... [mailto:krishna@...]
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> Cc: mehta@...; ssreeram@...
> Subject: [cyberlaw-india] Re: FW: Cyberlaw PANEL AT IIW'99
>
>
> Hi
> I have sent my brief resume twice before.here it is once more . My
> designation is Executive Director, Andhra Pradesh Technology Services,
> Government of Andhra Pradesh.
>
> u have got seshagiri, krishna details wrong.
> regards
> Srivatsa
>
> (See attached file: cvbrief.doc)
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> "Arun Mehta" <amehta@...> on 09/21/99 12:12:02 PM
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>  Enclosed is a list of participants of the panel. Please make corrections
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> Sent: 18 September 1999 13:17
> To: 'Arun Mehta'
> Subject: RE: Cyberlaw PANEL AT IIW'99
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> hv also mentioned - who all hv confirmed - my number is 7 including you.
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Hi
I have sent my brief resume twice before.here it is once more . My
designation is Executive Director, Andhra Pradesh Technology Services,
Government of Andhra Pradesh.

u have got seshagiri, krishna details wrong.
regards
Srivatsa

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  Enclosed is a list of participants of the panel. Please make corrections
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-----Original Message-----
From: Suresh Raman [mailto:SureshRA@...]
Sent: 18 September 1999 13:17
To: 'Arun Mehta'
Subject: RE: Cyberlaw PANEL AT IIW'99

here it is arun -
hv also mentioned - who all hv confirmed - my number is 7 including you.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Suresh Raman [mailto:SureshRA@...]
Sent: 18 September 1999 13:17
To: 'Arun Mehta'
Subject: RE: Cyberlaw PANEL AT IIW'99


here it is arun -

hv also mentioned - who all hv confirmed - my number is 7 including you.

  <<arunpanels>>

suresh

OK, so we finally have a proper discussion going on this list. The intention
was to  (thought) provoke, and I'm glad it worked.

Firstly, can we ask the question, what the goal and purpose of cyberlaws is?
I would submit, that the goal should be the promotion of the information age
in India. When we define new crimes, we must be sure that we are helping,
not hindering cyberspace in India.

> (Annie George ) I agree that unauthorised access must not be looked at
> lightly. It is similar to housebreaking in the physical world and is an
> offence which has to be dealt with in accordance with law.

Yes, but if you leave the front door open, or the key in the door of your
car, then you share the blame. And what if someone just tries the door,
finds it open, and only takes a peek inside without disturbing anything?

I think this issue is more complex than at first glance. Just ask your kids
or any cyber-savvy kids in your neighborhood -- how common is it that they
misuse accounts? I am uncomfortable with a law that would criminalize the
brightest kids we have, and jails our future in cyberspace. If a "crime" is
so common that everyone does it, at some point the law needs to follow what
the people do. And how does it help if we penalize the kids in our country?
Does it make the sites more secure? Of course not! The breakin could come
from any part of the world. Creating a law which makes such breakins illegal
might just make the sysadmins more complacent, more lazy.

As opposed to this, suppose we say that a person who breaks in and does
damage is a criminal. The person who only breaks in to show it can be done
is actually doing you a favour, and is not penalized. There are technical
means to ensure that unauthorized breakins are as good as impossible. Why
don't we penalize those who *don't* use them, because they are too lazy to
learn? Allowing people who misuse such an account (but don't do damage) to
get away scot-free would be just such punishment.

> >As for Bill Gates,
> > the courts in the US obviously believe that he was serious about what he
> > did.  He could very well have used handwritten memos instead of email !

Come on! Surely that isn't serious. In this day and age, we need an
affordable means of informal global communication. It would be terrible if
we had to look over our shoulders at every word we wrote in an e-mail.
E-mail is like a cheap phone call, and I for one am glad that such a medium
exists. This discussion would be impossible in any other way. Making an
unsigned message admissable as evidence would have a chilling effect on this
exciting new medium, and that would hardly encourage the spread of
cyberspace, now, would it?

> >
> > As regards tampering, you are absolutely correct that a court
> should only
> > accept electronic records where you can prove that the same is
> authentic.
> > However, one could also prove this through corroborative evidence - for
> > eg, obtaining a copy of the email from the senders system - if
> both match,
> > then that should be proof.

I see. So now, in order to make e-mail admissable, we give the court or the
government the authority to raid my system without any proof of my having
committed my crime. My privacy suddenly has no legal protection?

> >So, one should not limit such
> records only to
> > encrypted communications that cannot possibly be tampered with.

Please -- I said digitally signed, which does not mean encrypted. I'd be
happy to explain the difference, if there is confusion on that score.

> > Anyway,
> > it is up to the person propounding the evidence to prove that it is in
> > fact authentic.

It is relatively easy to spoof, i.e. send e-mail purporting to be from
someone it isn't. Not long ago, mail was sent to all VSNL's customers,
announcing a major slashing of rates, which was fictitious. There is a
Usenet newsgroup to which they want to restrict traffic to only those who
are Net-savvy. What they have done is to make this a moderated newsgroup,
but they have no moderator -- anyone who can spoof well enough to pretend to
be the moderator only can post to this group. The point I am making is that
this is a relatively easy skill to learn.

However, there is one way to be absolutely certain that I have sent a
certain message, and that the message hasn't been tampered with, and that is
if it carries my digital signature. Anything else should be treated like an
ordinary typewritten page, in my opinion.

> (Annie George) Isn't the panel discussion on Wednesday?
> Or are we meeting a day earlier ?

It is -- if people would like to meet a day earlier -- and I would welcome
the opportunity to get to know you all better than a formal forum would
allow -- I'd be happy to invite everyone to a nice cup of South Indian
coffee (or beer, if you prefer) the previous evening. Lajpat Nagar is just
down the road from Pragati Maidan. Any takers?


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Dear all
My comments underlined below each of Stephan's comments.





> ----------
> From:  Kochhar & Co., Bangalore[SMTP:kochharbgl@...]
> Reply To:  cyberlaw-india@egroups.com
> Sent:  18 September, 1999 17:55
> To:  cyberlaw-india@egroups.com
> Subject:  [cyberlaw-india] Re: Panel Discussion
>
> Dear All,
>
> As much as I would like to have 7 minutes for myself to speak on whatever
> I want, I share Arun's sentiments that if each of us speak for about 7
> minutes, there wont be much "discussion" or audience participation.
> Maybe, after identifying topics which each of us may be keen to speak on,
> Arun can ask the person concerned to speak on the same.  Anyway, I suggest
> we leave this to Arun, as the co-ordinator, to decide.
>
> As regards, the debate on Arun's specific points, here are my comments:
>
> Hacking and unauthorised access
>
> Frankly, I was unaware of these facts.  Nevertheless, I believe we must
> prohibit what is wrong and apportion punishment whenever it happens.  If I
> owned a system containing confidential information, I would certainly not
> like someone, no matter how young, brilliant or talented, to access the
> system and maybe, make use of my confidential information.  The answer may
> lie not in the conviction as an offence, but in the punishment.  The law
> will always consider what are known as "mitigating factors" such as age,
> past history, nature of offence, damage caused, etc. Maybe, this young,
> brilliant dude will get off with just a fine.
(Annie George ) I agree that unauthorised access must not be looked at
lightly. It is similar to housebreaking in the physical world and is an
offence which has to be dealt with in accordance with law.

> Legal recognition of electronic records
>
> The law has ways to deal with what communication was in jest or non
> serious and what is not.  This isnt really specific to email as one can
> also take support from oral statements.  As regards a contract for
> instance, under the Indian Contract Act, communication cannot result in a
> legally enforceable contract unless there is a clear indication that the
> parties intended to enter into a legal relationship.  As for Bill Gates,
> the courts in the US obviously believe that he was serious about what he
> did.  He could very well have used handwritten memos instead of email !
>
> As regards tampering, you are absolutely correct that a court should only
> accept electronic records where you can prove that the same is authentic.
> However, one could also prove this through corroborative evidence - for
> eg, obtaining a copy of the email from the senders system - if both match,
> then that should be proof.  So, one should not limit such records only to
> encrypted communications that cannot possibly be tampered with.  Anyway,
> it is up to the person propounding the evidence to prove that it is in
> fact authentic.
>
> In any event, electronic records can be accepted as primary evidence of a
> document under the Evidence Act - we only need a reasonable judge to apply
> common sense to come to that view.  Please correct me if I am wrong, but I
> dont believe that this issue has come before a court yet.
	 (Annie George) The rule  on authenticating a record is quite clear
that any symbol,mark etc. adopted by a person with an intent to authenticate
a document shall constitute a signature.  I dont believe that for the
purpose of electronic records. email or any other form. the law should
prescribe any rules whether by way of encryption or any other form. The
essence of a signature is the intent of the person adopting it and not the
security it embodies. Even in ink autograph signatures ,the law does not
prescribe in what manner the signature should be. Some people use very
complicated scripts which are difficult to forge ,while others may use a
simple line or an 'X'. But the law does not require people to change their
signature so that it is less forgeable.
	 As long as the authenticity of the record can be proved, no further
complications should be created by the legal system in the cyber world.
> Khemka Case
>
> This was very enlightening.  Incidentally, it may be noted that under the
> Electronic Commerce Bill, "mere provision of network access" cannot create
> liability, unless commited intentionally or knowingly.  The IT Bill on the
> other hand provides a different standard which is more dangerous.
(Not familiar with this, so no comment )

> Issues
>
> I managed to dig out a list of some internet/e-commerce legal issues. Do
> forgive me in case there are any repetitions.
>
> 1. Security of credit card information over the net
> 2. Standards in security
> 3. Privacy
> 4. Domain name disputes
> 5. Hyper-linking
> 6. Hacking and unauthorized access
> 7 Typo squatting/use of meta tags
> 8. Transnational jurisdiction of courts
> 9. Transnational Taxation of electronic commerce
> 10. Exemption of electronic commerce from taxation
> 11. Legal recognition of electronic records
> 12. Legal recognition of Digital Signatures
> 13. Government escrow to encrypted technology
> 14. Legality of click-wrap contracts
> 15. Network Service Provider liability
> 16. Prohibition of internet telephony
> 17. Employer Email access
> 18. Legality of Spam
> 19. Licencing and revenue sharing of OSP's
	 (Annie George )One basic question Do we need changes in the present
legal system to tackle these issues ?
	 Does the law as it stands impede the use of electronic commerce ?
> I look forward to meeting all of you on Tuesday.
(Annie George) Isn't the panel discussion on Wednesday?
Or are we meeting a day earlier ?

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>
> Stephen Mathias
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As much as I would like to have 7 minutes for myself to speak on whatever I want, I share Arun's sentiments that if each of us speak for about 7 minutes, there wont be much "discussion" or audience participation.  Maybe, after identifying topics which each of us may be keen to speak on, Arun can ask the person concerned to speak on the same.  Anyway, I suggest we leave this to Arun, as the co-ordinator, to decide.

As regards, the debate on Arun's specific points, here are my comments:

Hacking and unauthorised access

Frankly, I was unaware of these facts.  Nevertheless, I believe we must prohibit what is wrong and apportion punishment whenever it happens.  If I owned a system containing confidential information, I would certainly not like someone, no matter how young, brilliant or talented, to access the system and maybe, make use of my confidential information.  The answer may lie not in the conviction as an offence, but in the punishment.  The law will always consider what are known as "mitigating factors" such as age, past history, nature of offence, damage caused, etc. Maybe, this young, brilliant dude will get off with just a fine.

Legal recognition of electronic records

The law has ways to deal with what communication was in jest or non serious and what is not.  This isnt really specific to email as one can also take support from oral statements.  As regards a contract for instance, under the Indian Contract Act, communication cannot result in a legally enforceable contract unless there is a clear indication that the parties intended to enter into a legal relationship.  As for Bill Gates, the courts in the US obviously believe that he was serious about what he did.  He could very well have used handwritten memos instead of email !

As regards tampering, you are absolutely correct that a court should only accept electronic records where you can prove that the same is authentic.  However, one could also prove this through corroborative evidence - for eg, obtaining a copy of the email from the senders system - if both match, then that should be proof.  So, one should not limit such records only to encrypted communications that cannot possibly be tampered with.  Anyway, it is up to the person propounding the evidence to prove that it is in fact authentic.

In any event, electronic records can be accepted as primary evidence of a document under the Evidence Act - we only need a reasonable judge to apply common sense to come to that view.  Please correct me if I am wrong, but I dont believe that this issue has come before a court yet.

Khemka Case

This was very enlightening.  Incidentally, it may be noted that under the Electronic Commerce Bill, "mere provision of network access" cannot create liability, unless commited intentionally or knowingly.  The IT Bill on the other hand provides a different standard which is more dangerous.

Issues

I managed to dig out a list of some internet/e-commerce legal issues. Do forgive me in case there are any repetitions.

1. Security of credit card information over the net
2. Standards in security
3. Privacy
4. Domain name disputes
5. Hyper-linking
6. Hacking and unauthorized access
7 Typo squatting/use of meta tags
8. Transnational jurisdiction of courts
9. Transnational Taxation of electronic commerce
10. Exemption of electronic commerce from taxation
11. Legal recognition of electronic records
12. Legal recognition of Digital Signatures
13. Government escrow to encrypted technology
14. Legality of click-wrap contracts
15. Network Service Provider liability
16. Prohibition of internet telephony
17. Employer Email access
18. Legality of Spam
19. Licencing and revenue sharing of OSP's

I look forward to meeting all of you on Tuesday.

Regards

Stephen Mathias

For those on this list not familiar with the case -- does anyone know what
happened since July? I definitely think this is worth bringing up at the
panel discussion....

Arun Mehta, B-69, Lajpat Nagar-I, New Delhi-110024. Phone 6841172, 6849103
http://www.cerfnet.com/~amehta

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Sent: 01 July 1999 14:34
To: CYBERCOM@...
Subject: [CCI] [India] CYBER HATE SITE HOST IN COURT


[Originally appeared on the CJESA@egroups.com mailing list]
CYBER HATE SITE HOST IN COURT
BY OUR SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT
Calcutta, June 27  The legal framework of the case against Shamit
Khemka, arrested on charges of hosting a Bengali hate site on the
Internet, is as nebulous as the unregulated terrain he traversed,
prompting experts to suggest he is unlikely to get a harsh sentence.
Khemka, arrested from his south Calcutta residence last Tuesday, will
be produced in court tomorrow.
Even though the 25-year-old computer professional is charged under
several sections of the Indian Penal Code, only one charge is non-
bailable. The charge of "insult intended to provoke breach of the
peace" is bailable. The non-bailable charge of "promoting enmity
between classes" entails only up to three years' imprisonment.
The police have, however, not charged him for defaming Jyoti Basu and
other CPM leaders on the Bengali-bashing website with an expletive as
a domain name. Even the IPC section on defamation is bailable.
Commenting on the case, the first of its kind in the country, several
lawyers raised doubts about how successful the police would be to get
a verdict against him. "A defamation case has to be built up against
him," said Aniruddha Bose, a city-based lawyer. Some lawyers even
wondered how he could be in police custody for so long.
"Once he gets bail, the case can run on unless the prosecution makes
the judges understand the nuances of his alleged involvement in
hosting the offensive website," said lawyer A. Mitra.
Unlike many countries, India is yet to have laws governing libel and
slander on the Internet. In the UK, libel laws also cover material
published on the web.
In Britain, judges can suggest money damages. The defendant can also
reduce the damages if he can prove that the complainant has a
generally bad reputation.
But with website hosts extremely hard to locate, many countries are
not too interested in libel laws. In the US, there is often the
problem of tracing the person or persons responsible.
In most cases the Internet service provider is charged only to be
acquitted for lack of involvement with the "third party" who has
posted offensive material on the web.
According to a study by Stanford University, there is not enough case
history to set up a case against cyberlibel. Besides, with laws
differing from country to country, there is difficulty in arriving at
a common code.
Currently, the laws that deal with cyberlibel are not yet adaptive
enough to deal with the ways this new form of communication changes
the legal climate of a country and the rest of the world, the study
says.
In Khemka's case, neither the police nor the judiciary have a
precedent to work on.
If the legal stance in the West, the largest Internet user, is still
nascent, India has not yet taken one. Even the Khemka case has not
evoked any reaction in what is the fastest growing global community:
The virtual world of the Internet.

http://www.telegraphindia.com/

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-----Original Message-----
From: krishna [mailto:krishna@...]
Sent: 17 September 1999 12:09
To: IIW
Subject: [cyberlaw-india] cyberlaw-india '99

dear arun/srivatsa/stephan/annie and others

 

would like to add two areas

• cyber crimes
• international cyberlaw initiatives

Also, i suggest about 7-8 min per speaker and then questions from the audience.

 

regards

krishna

 

 

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What is the view of our learned panel? Should it be ok, as the draft IT bill
suggests, for e-mail to be admitted as evidence?

Most people treat e-mail like speech, i.e. informal, and are horrified if
they get into trouble for what they thought was a confidential exchange.
This has been happening increasingly often, as the famous example of Bil
Gates in the Microsoft case demonstrates.

My own view is that it should *not* be admissable, unless it has been
digitally signed. Without a digital signature, there is no way to prove that
the person who supposedly sent it indeed did, also then we respect the way
people actually treat e-mail.

Um, please feel free to use this list to initiate discussion on cyberlaws in
India -- that is what it is meant for.

Arun Mehta, B-69, Lajpat Nagar-I, New Delhi-110024. Phone 6841172, 6849103
http://www.cerfnet.com/~amehta

• cyber crimes
• international cyberlaw initiatives

> We could have a slide which lists all the legal issues (in bullet
> points), that are relevant in internet and
> electronic commerce law.  One person can spend about 7 mins giving a
> brief description of what
> these issues are about. This will be a very useful starting point for
> the audience.

While I agree that we will need to prioritize the issues, I do think that at
the introductory stage, we need to list *all*. And do spare a thought for
Shamit Khemka, who had to go to jail because the West Bengal government did
not like what was on a site he merely hosted, not managed. I will update the
original list I sent based on the feedback received (and I hope more comes
in), and prepare a Powerpoint slide, and mail to you.

> For the rest, I guess we will have to agree informally on who will lead
> the discussion on each area.

How do you react to my suggestion that I simply ask which panelists have a
view on a particular subject, and let them have a couple of minutes before
we bring the audience in? When it comes to fielding of questions, I will
again ask which panelist wants to answer, if that's OK.

>But laws on hacking, unauthorised access
> can be enacted quickly.

I may be in a minority on this one, but I don't agree. This law would
criminalize almost *all* the computer-savvy kids in the country. There are
excellent technical solutions that can prevent unauthorized access -- the
World Bank, for instance, allows its employees to log in from home without
problems. They give you a smart card, into which you feed a secret code,
which then displays a number you can use to log in *once only*. Foolproof,
and there are even better ways. If unauthorized access is possible at a
site, you can be sure they have a very lazy sysadmin. Some of the brightest
minds on the Net are current and former hackers, and if we make sure that
our kids never get there, we are also ensuring that India will not
participate in the development and future of the Net.
> special courts
> for IP cases,

Very interesting suggestion you just threw in: views, anyone?

> that instead of enacted law, industry standards backed by safe
> technology can provide answers to
> most legal issues.

> 6.    Questions
>
> Questions from the audience? Estimated time - 12 to 15 minutes

I would like to bring the audience in more -- that is why I want to stop for
a few questions after each issue has been addressed by the panel.

> I would also be happy to generate the list of legal issues that arise in
> internet and electronic
> commerce law.

Why not just add to the list I already circulated?

Arun

Dear Group Members,

First of all, let me introduce myself.  I am a partner in Kochhar & Co,
a leading law firm in Delhi,
having an office in Bangalore.  I am heading what is the first
Technology Law Practice in the
country.  We have recently assisted some leading players in setting up
e-commerce enabled
platforms to be used by merchants and have been involved in drafting
agreements between network
service providers, resellers, merchants and banks.

Coming to our discussion....

I tend to agree with Annie George that we need to restrict the number of
topics so that we can
manage the time appropriately.  I believe that we should aim to educate
our audience on the
following:


      What are the legal issues for which Cyber Laws may be needed?
      What are the critical areas in which Cyber Laws need to be enacted
immediately by the govt?
      What else can be done by industry, etc to promote a predictable
legal environment.

1. Introduction

We could have a slide which lists all the legal issues (in bullet
points), that are relevant in internet and
electronic commerce law.  One person can spend about 7 mins giving a
brief description of what
these issues are about. This will be a very useful starting point for
the audience.

For the rest, I guess we will have to agree informally on who will lead
the discussion on each area.

2.    Criticial areas for governance

We can talk about what are the areas of law in which government action
is required urgently.  For
example, issues relating to privacy, metatagging, hyperlinking may not
have developed sufficiently
enough for law to be enacted. But laws on hacking, unauthorised access
can be enacted quickly.

3.    Incidental government action

This could focus on other areas which will have an incidental impact.
For example, can our city civil
courts understand what is an electronic record? Will they have the
infrastructure to accept evidence?
We can also talk about internet telephony, lifting of monopoly on
internet gateways, special courts
for IP cases, etc. Basically, anything which may have an incidental
impact on the internet.

4.    Industry standards

A large part of internet law is developing through industry standards.
Leading companies have got
together to develop policies (eg, privacy) that would be used by the
industry.  We can identify what
areas need to be developed and how industry can create industry
standards.  We can also talk
about what industry needs to do to educate consumers.  This is my
favourite topic since I believe
that instead of enacted law, industry standards backed by safe
technology can provide answers to
most legal issues.

5.     Roundup

Finally, each speaker can speak for about 3-4 minutes on their
conclusions and what they believe
needs to be done.

6.    Questions

Questions from the audience? Estimated time - 12 to 15 minutes

I would also be happy to generate the list of legal issues that arise in
internet and electronic
commerce law.

I look forward to a response from all of you.

Regards

Stephen Mathias

Dear Mr Mehta
to my mind the questions to ask are :
a) Digital Contracts and their validity
b) The existing Indian laws which need reform
c) Issues pertaining to jurisdiction in ecommerce
d) Banking and payment system laws

regards
Srivatsa




"Arun Mehta" <amehta@...> on 09/16/99 11:51:06 AM

Please respond to cyberlaw-india@egroups.com



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           <cyberlaw-india@egroups.com>

  cc:      (bcc: krishna/apts)



  Subject: [cyberlaw-india] topics to cover in Panel on 22
           Sept







Dear Fellow-Panelists,
Welcome to the new members. Please feel free to introduce yourselves to the
others, send mail to Cyberlaw-India@egroups.com
Having failed to generate any discussion electronically prior to the actual
panel discussion, I am forced to take some arbitrary decisions on how the
panel will be run.
Rather than each of us make a speech, I propose the panel as a whole take
up
topic by topic from the list below, and I will ask which of you has
something short to say on each. Then, we ask members of the public to ask
questions on that topic, before we move onto the next.
As I see it, the topics we need to cover include :
E-commerce related legal issues (need for speedy legislation, how
encryption
is being handled, criminalization of hacking)
Ban on Internet telephony
Censorship of web sites
responsibility of web server owners for content (e.g. the Shamit Khemka
case)
Freedom of information and the Internet
Relationship between TRAI and the courts
How do we proceed
I'm sure people have topics they'd like to add to this list -- do let me
know soon, mail to Cyberlaw-India@egroups.com
Arun Mehta, B-69, Lajpat Nagar-I, New Delhi-110024. Phone 6841172, 6849103
http://www.cerfnet.com/~amehta

------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/cyberlaw-india
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

First of all, let me introduce myself.  I am a partner in Kochhar & Co, a leading law firm in Delhi, having an office in Bangalore.  I am heading what is the first Technology Law Practice in the country.  We have recently assisted some leading players in setting up e-commerce enabled platforms to be used by merchants and have been involved in drafting agreements between network service providers, resellers, merchants and banks.

Coming to our discussion....

I tend to agree with Annie George that we need to restrict the number of topics so that we can manage the time appropriately.  I believe that we should aim to educate our audience on the following:
 

• What are the legal issues for which Cyber Laws may be needed?
• What are the critical areas in which Cyber Laws need to be enacted immediately by the govt?
• What else can be done by industry, etc to promote a predictable legal environment.

We could have a slide which lists all the legal issues (in bullet points), that are relevant in internet and electronic commerce law.  One person can spend about 7 mins giving a brief description of what these issues are about. This will be a very useful starting point for the audience.

For the rest, I guess we will have to agree informally on who will lead the discussion on each area.

2.    Criticial areas for governance

We can talk about what are the areas of law in which government action is required urgently.  For example, issues relating to privacy, metatagging, hyperlinking may not have developed sufficiently enough for law to be enacted. But laws on hacking, unauthorised access can be enacted quickly.

3.    Incidental government action

This could focus on other areas which will have an incidental impact.  For example, can our city civil courts understand what is an electronic record? Will they have the infrastructure to accept evidence? We can also talk about internet telephony, lifting of monopoly on internet gateways, special courts for IP cases, etc. Basically, anything which may have an incidental impact on the internet.

4.    Industry standards

A large part of internet law is developing through industry standards.  Leading companies have got together to develop policies (eg, privacy) that would be used by the industry.  We can identify what areas need to be developed and how industry can create industry standards.  We can also talk about what industry needs to do to educate consumers.  This is my favourite topic since I believe that instead of enacted law, industry standards backed by safe technology can provide answers to most legal issues.

5.     Roundup

Finally, each speaker can speak for about 3-4 minutes on their conclusions and what they believe needs to be done.

6.    Questions

Questions from the audience? Estimated time - 12 to 15 minutes

I would also be happy to generate the list of legal issues that arise in internet and electronic commerce law.

I look forward to a response from all of you.

Regards

Stephen Mathias

Dear all
The list set out by Mr. Mehta is very interesting and will definitely need
more than an hour that has been allocated for the panel discussion.
Therefore , I would suggest that we confine our discussion to the topic that
has been chosen for the panel discussion. viz.what should be the framework
for the Indian Cyberlaws.I think we all agree that regulations are
necessary,lack of a predictable legal environment could hamper growth .We
should therfore  discuss what should be the frameworks  for laws on
taxation.privacy,data protection, electronic payments, security,IP
protection ,censorship ,consumer rights etc.in the cyberworld .


Best wishes
Annie George
Microland , India
email: AnnieG@...
Tel:  91- 80- 571 1340
Fax: 91- 80- 571 0992
url: www microland.net

> ----------
> From:  Arun Mehta[SMTP:amehta@...]
> Reply To:  cyberlaw-india@egroups.com
> Sent:  16 September, 1999 10:51
> To:  Cyberlaw-India@Egroups. Com
> Subject:  [cyberlaw-india] topics to cover in Panel on 22 Sept
>
> Dear Fellow-Panelists,
>
> Welcome to the new members. Please feel free to introduce yourselves to
> the
> others, send mail to Cyberlaw-India@egroups.com
>
> Having failed to generate any discussion electronically prior to the
> actual
> panel discussion, I am forced to take some arbitrary decisions on how the
> panel will be run.
>
> Rather than each of us make a speech, I propose the panel as a whole take
> up
> topic by topic from the list below, and I will ask which of you has
> something short to say on each. Then, we ask members of the public to ask
> questions on that topic, before we move onto the next.
>
> As I see it, the topics we need to cover include :
>
> E-commerce related legal issues (need for speedy legislation, how
> encryption
> is being handled, criminalization of hacking)
> Ban on Internet telephony
> Censorship of web sites
> responsibility of web server owners for content (e.g. the Shamit Khemka
> case)
> Freedom of information and the Internet
> Relationship between TRAI and the courts
> How do we proceed
>
> I'm sure people have topics they'd like to add to this list -- do let me
> know soon, mail to Cyberlaw-India@egroups.com
>
> Arun Mehta, B-69, Lajpat Nagar-I, New Delhi-110024. Phone 6841172, 6849103
> http://www.cerfnet.com/~amehta
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/cyberlaw-india
> http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications
>
>
>
>

Dear Fellow-Panelists,

Welcome to the new members. Please feel free to introduce yourselves to the
others, send mail to Cyberlaw-India@egroups.com

Having failed to generate any discussion electronically prior to the actual
panel discussion, I am forced to take some arbitrary decisions on how the
panel will be run.

Rather than each of us make a speech, I propose the panel as a whole take up
topic by topic from the list below, and I will ask which of you has
something short to say on each. Then, we ask members of the public to ask
questions on that topic, before we move onto the next.

As I see it, the topics we need to cover include :

E-commerce related legal issues (need for speedy legislation, how encryption
is being handled, criminalization of hacking)
Ban on Internet telephony
Censorship of web sites
responsibility of web server owners for content (e.g. the Shamit Khemka
case)
Freedom of information and the Internet
Relationship between TRAI and the courts
How do we proceed

I'm sure people have topics they'd like to add to this list -- do let me
know soon, mail to Cyberlaw-India@egroups.com

Arun Mehta, B-69, Lajpat Nagar-I, New Delhi-110024. Phone 6841172, 6849103
http://www.cerfnet.com/~amehta

Krishna has come onto the panel in place of Nishith Desai. Like him, I too
would like to know what my co-panelists will be covering in the panel
discussion. I also happen to think, that a forum is needed where Indian
cyberlaw issues are discussed among experts in the field. Don't you?

Arun Mehta, B-69, Lajpat Nagar-I, New Delhi-110024. Phone 6841172, 6849103
http://www.cerfnet.com/~amehta

-----Original Message-----
From: krishna [mailto:krishna@...]
Sent: 03 September 1999 17:21
To: Arun Mehta
Subject: Re: PANELS AT IIW'99


Arun,

Thank you for accommodating me. I would be happy to cover the following
issues within the broad context of cyberlaws.

1) Digital Signatures
2) Liability of ISP's & Cyber Crimes
3) Online Payments & Security
4) Domain Names
5) Privacy

Since I have come on board rather late can you tell who my co-panelists are
& what do they plan to cover?

Krishna
----- Original Message -----
From: Arun Mehta <amehta@...>
To: krishna <krishna@...>; Suresh Raman
<SureshRA@...>
Sent: Friday, September 03, 1999 4:38 PM
Subject: RE: PANELS AT IIW'99


> Dear Krishna,
>
> Great to have you on board -- you have an impressive resume in this area.
>
> I sent the following mail to the cyberlaw panel list -- please respond.
> "Dear fellow co-panelists at Internet World, Cyberlaw panel,
>
> I am trying to ensure that we do not, on the one hand have repetitive
> contributions on the same issue while completely neglecting others at the
> panel discussion. So please:
>
> 1) Confirm to me by replying to this message that you are indeed going to
be
> present at Pragati Maidan on Sept 22, 1999 from 5:00 PM to 6:00 PM for the
> discussion.
>
> 2) Please tell me what areas of cyberlaw you are knowledgeable in, and
which
> areas you wish to see discussed."
>
> Arun Mehta, B-69, Lajpat Nagar-I, New Delhi-110024. Phone 6841172, 6849103
> http://www.cerfnet.com/~amehta
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: krishna [mailto:krishna@...]
> > Sent: 03 September 1999 15:45
> > To: Suresh Raman
> > Cc: amehta@...
> > Subject: Re: PANELS AT IIW'99
> >
> >
> > Suresh
> >
> > Thank you for the prompt response. I confirm that I will be
> > participating in
> > the Cyberlaws Panel - Creating National Frameworks on Sep 22, 1999.
> >
> > Look forward to meeting both of you. Meantime keep in touch.
> >
> > Krishna
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Suresh Raman <SureshRA@...>
> > To: krishna <krishna@...>
> > Sent: Friday, September 03, 1999 2:41 PM
> > Subject: RE: PANELS AT IIW'99
> >
> >
> > > Hi Krishna -
> > >
> > > Thanks for your mail - Nishith was to have participated in 2 panels at
> > IW'99
> > > - as below -
> > >
> > > 1. Cyberlaws - Creating National Frameworks : On Sep 22, 1999
> > > 2. Gateways to Cyberspace - ISP Shootout: On Sep 24,1999
> > >
> > > Definitely you would bring a lot of value to the Cyberlaw's session
and
> > your
> > > schedule is convenient too.
> > >
> > > Needless to say it's not worth trying to reschedule the other panel -
it
> > > will mean too much chaos.
> > >
> > > The moderator of the Cyberlaws panel is Arun Mehta
> > (amehta@...) -
> > I
> > > am requesting him to communicate with you on ideas, thoughts & plans
for
> > the
> > > discussions.
> > >
> > > Pleas do confirm your participation the panel on 22nd Sep by
> > return mail.
> > >
> > > I am attaching a brief on the panel modalities etc. below just
> > n case you
> > > haven't got it.
> > >
> > >  <<QUICK HIT PANELS AT INDIA INTERNET WORLD>>
> > >
> > > wishes
> > >
> > > Suresh Raman
> > > Vice President & Chair - Conferences
> > > email : sureshra@...
> > > url : www.microland.net
> > > ph : 91-80-5521451
> > > fax : 91-80-553 8415
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > ----------
> > > > From: krishna[SMTP:krishna@...]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 9:23 PM
> > > > To: SureshRA@...
> > > > Subject: Re: PANELS AT IIW'99
> > > >
> > > > <<File: Profile-KA.rtf.doc>>
> > > > Dear Suresh,
> > > >
> > > > Mr. Nishith Desai apologizes for not being able to attend the panel
> > > > discussion. He has to leave the country on some urgent work
> > on September
> > > > 10,
> > > > 1999 and will be back only on October 4, 1999. He has asked me to
step
> > in
> > > > for him at the panel discussion, if this is OK with you. I am
> > attaching
> > a
> > > > brief profile for your perusal.
> > > >
> > > > If this is OK with you I have one more request: I have some work in
> > London
> > > > and then have to go to Barcelona to present two papers at the
> > > > International
> > > > Bar Association's annual Conference. Hence I will be have to
> > leave India
> > > > on
> > > > thee 23rd night. would it be possible to schedule my panel on the
22nd
> > or
> > > > the 23rd - ideally the 22rd as it would permit me to return to
Mumbai
> > and
> > > > fly out on the 23rd? Looking forward to an early response
> > from you as I
> > > > need
> > > > to finalize my travel plans accordingly. I do apologize for the
short
> > > > notice.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Krishna Allavaru
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Suresh Raman <> To: 'SJain@...'
> > <SJain@...>;
> > > > > 'Anand.Talwai@...'
> > > > > <Anand.Talwai@...>; nda
> > <nda@...>;
> > > > > 'arjun@...' <arjun@...>;
> > > > > 'amitabh@...' <amitabh@...>;
> > > > > 'cmdmtnl@...' <cmdmtnl@...>
> > > > > Cc: Rangaraj M S <RangarajMS@...>
> > > > > Date: Monday, August 23, 1999 5:07 PM
> > > > > Subject: FW: PANELS AT IIW'99
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >> Gentlemen -
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Thank you for agreeing to participate in the Quick Hit Panels
(as
> > > > > detailed
> > > > > >> below) at IIW'99.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I am enclosing below a quick brief on the Panel sessions
> > at IIW'99
> > > > which
> > > > > >> provides details on how the panel sessions are to be executed
and
> > > > > handled.
> > > > > >> This is a guideline and is intended to provide the moderator &
> > panel
> > > > > >> members a background and some idea on the procedures.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>  <<QUICK HIT PANELS AT INDIA INTERNET WORLD>>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> As communicated earlier - the panels of which you are a
> > member is :
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >Gateways to Cyberspace - ISP Shootout: On Sep 24,1999 5:00
> > - 6:00 PM
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> The moderator of your panel is Mr. M S Rangaraj, Group CTO,
> > Microland
> > > > > >> (email : rangarajms@...)
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Mr. Rangaraj will be in touch with you independently on the
> > > > proceedings
> > > > > of
> > > > > >> the panel.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Please let me know if you require any additional information or
> > other
> > > > > >> inputs.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Best wishes
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Suresh Raman
> > > > > >> Vice President & Chair - Conferences
> > > > > >> email : sureshra@...
> > > > > >> url : www.microland.net
> > > > > >> ph : 91-80-5521451
> > > > > >> fax : 91-80-553 8415
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > Nishith Desai Associates, Mumbai, India
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>


--------------------------------------------------------------
Nishith Desai Associates, Mumbai, India

Dear Co panelists
My name is Annie George and I am the Vice President Legal of the Microland
group,which is a company focussing on e services and the Internet domain.
My interest in the Internet laws is both from an industry perspective as
also professionally as it is a new uncharted area and hence challenging.

The panel discussion besides covering the framework, should also address how
law and regulations need to assist and not hinder or hamper the growth of
the Internet in India and ensure India's presence on the global information
highway.
Best wishes
Annie George
Microland , India
email: AnnieG@...
Tel:  91- 80- 571 1340
Fax: 91- 80- 571 0992
url: www microland.net

> ----------
> From:  amehta@...[SMTP:amehta@...]
> Reply To:  cyberlaw-india@egroups.com
> Sent:  24 August, 1999 9:52 AM
> To:  cyberlaw-india@eGroups.com
> Subject:  [cyberlaw-india] Welcome to the cyberlaw-India list
>
> Dear co-panelists at Internet World, Cyberlaw panel,
>
> Firstly, may I request that we all introduce ourselves, including a
> short note on our respective interests in cyberlaw. Also, perhaps,
> mention the items you would like discussed during our panel discussion.
> And if you know interesting urls pertaining to cyberlaw in India, do
> post them to the list, so that we are all upto date.
>
> Me, I'm an Internet activist who has fought many instances of bad
> cyber-policy, see http://www.cerfnet.com/~amehta for details. I'm
> currently fighting VSNL on the blockage of Internet sites by them, more
> info at
> http://members.tripod.com/~india_gii/statusof.htm
>
> Look forward to useful discussion on this list.
> Arun Mehta
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/cyberlaw-india
> http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications
>
>
>
>

Dear fellow co-panelists at Internet World, Cyberlaw panel,

I am trying to ensure that we do not, on the one hand have repetitive
contributions on the same issue while completely neglecting others at the
panel discussion. So please:

1) Confirm to me by replying to this message that you are indeed going to be
present at Pragati Maidan on Sept 22, 1999 from 5:00 PM to 6:00 PM for the
discussion.

2) Please tell me what areas of cyberlaw you are knowledgeable in, and which
areas you wish to see discussed.

Arun Mehta, B-69, Lajpat Nagar-I, New Delhi-110024. Phone 6841172, 6849103
http://www.cerfnet.com/~amehta

Dear co-panelists at Internet World, Cyberlaw panel,

Firstly, may I request that we all introduce ourselves, including a
short note on our respective interests in cyberlaw. Also, perhaps,
mention the items you would like discussed during our panel discussion.
And if you know interesting urls pertaining to cyberlaw in India, do
post them to the list, so that we are all upto date.

Me, I'm an Internet activist who has fought many instances of bad
cyber-policy, see http://www.cerfnet.com/~amehta for details. I'm
currently fighting VSNL on the blockage of Internet sites by them, more
info at
http://members.tripod.com/~india_gii/statusof.htm

Look forward to useful discussion on this list.
Arun Mehta

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