This is just a reminder about our first official DC Future Salon meeting, which will be TONIGHT *** Wednesday October 5, at 7:30 PM *** The speaker will be...
Thanks, Ben. I look forward seeing everyone again and talking about these unresolved questions surrounding the concept of life and death. I'll also have a 10...
Ben, Sorry, can't make this one. See you next time. Phil Nelson On Oct 5, 2005, at 10:02 AM, bgoertzel wrote: This is just a reminder about our first official...
An event that we thought might be of interest to all of you: Life Extension Conference Nov. 5, 2005 in Atlanta, GA Meet Aubrey de Grey and sixteen other life...
Hi all, The first meeting of the DC Future Salon occurred last night as scheduled and was a success in my view. Around 10 folks showed up to -- hear Bruce...
Agreed, Ben... in this first meeting, I was impressed by the collaborative discussion which engaged the topic of immortality from multiple fronts. I was left...
Bruce wrote: *** I was left thinking, as suggested by you, Jeff, and others, that the illusion of personal identity will fade as we augment and merge... so...
And there is, of course, a familiar and acute irony in observing that -- while these (along with the scientific puzzles of human biology, uploading and so...
... As far as I can tell, "merging" is a completely taboo subject on the Internet. (either physically or mentally). (You can find 10,000x as much stuff on...
Hi all, This is just an advance reminder that our next DC Future Salon meeting is Wed. Nov. 2, 7:30 PM, the same place as last time (directions are here:...
Hi Ben, These topics for the next two meetings look great. re: living in a simulation, Nick Bostrom & Robin Hanson have some ides on the topic as well: ...
I don't think I am going to attend this meeting on the simulation argument, because I would probably be argumentative. I consider this topic to be one of...
... Since when is that a bad thing? Are we aiming for echo-chamber-only gatherings? I consider this ... I consider this suggestion to be rather contrary to...
... We don't have any reason to find a reason to dismiss the simulation argument. ;) It's like arguing over the existence of the Easter bunny. =P There is no...
... I say "argumentative", you say "contrary". ... I listed them in the posting you quoted. ... There is a good reason, it's called Occam's Razor. Without any...
... No idea what the point of this is supposed to be, esp. given I started my first reply by expressing that argument was healthy for the group. ... I was...
Hi Harvey, You can rest assured that none of us will mind if you come to a Future Salon meeting and are argumentative! I certainly wouldn't want to have to...
... Personally, my answer to that question would be: a) I have no idea whether we are in a computer simulation b) I think it is most likely that the nature of...
... Yes, you started by saying that "argumentative" is good, but then when you heard my argument you complained that I was being "contrary". My point was that...
... I'm not so worried about your reaction as mine. I have no interest in discussing this topic. It is one of those faith issues, like religion or politics,...
Hi Harvey, I don't agree with you that the topic itself is irrational although some people may have irrational beliefs about it (just as with many other ...
Hi DCers!, Peter S. Jenkins, a contributor to the Second Life Future Salon blog ( http://slfuturesalon.blogs.com -- your virtual future salon neighbors ... ...
... Since this thread has gone on long enough, I'll add that Jeff's position is, indeed, religeous. As I (and others) have pointed out previously, the SIAI is...
... Wow! I really didn't anticipate that this choice of discussion topic would arouse so much controversy!!! Had I anticipated such controversy, I would have...
... Hmmm.... I know essentially everyone involved with SIAI (in person, not just via email), and I can assure you the SIAI is NOT a religious cult -- although...
Ben, ... I would be interested in the following: - Extracting Info from NL (state of the art, available tools, problems and solutions, Echelon, Novamente) - NL...
Jiri, Would you like to give a presentation on any of these topics? Of course, I could do so, but, I don't want to monopolize things... I had been planning to...
... Yes... agreed, Ben. Open to democratic persuasion, I envision the DC Future Salon as a gathering of friends with a shared interest to understand futurist...