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Re: [deepskysoftware] Re: Convert plan to catalog?

David, When you open the plan in DeepSky it will only show you whats visible at your set location and date. If I open the DeepMap600_DSO.pln only 214 of the 460 objects in the plan show up. You can at that point remove objects from the plan that are too low mag for you to see, then save the new plan as a different name.


----- Original Message -----
From: "David Finlayson" <david.p.finlayson@...>
To: deepskysoftware@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 2:09:56 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [deepskysoftware] Re: Convert plan to catalog?



Thanks for reading my question.

I agree that if you work with one of the built-in Deepsky catalogs
there are some nice filters available. However, you cannot use most of
those filters on an observing plan, which means that observing plans
are a poor substitute for a catalog. That makes huge lists of objects
such as those found in the Sue French,pln or the DeepMap600.pln
cumbersome to work with at best.

What I want to be able to do is search for all the Sue French objects
that I can see from my deep sky site next Saturday night under the
constraints of my own skills and equipment.

David

On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 4:24 AM, <de_miles@...> wrote:
>
>
> David, DeepSky does have the ability to filter out what you want. Go to the
> filter sections and play with the settings, read the help files. I have
> several saved queries that I use to filter out all but the brighter objects,
>  that works good in my light polluted area. There is also some pre built
> queries under the query tab at the top of the screen. I use and prefer the
> Saguaro Astronomy Club V7.5 database since they list mag2 (surface
> brightness) for most objects then you can use that in the filtering. Hope
> this helps.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Finlayson" <david.p.finlayson@...>
> To: deepskysoftware@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 11:34:58 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: [deepskysoftware] Re: Convert plan to catalog?
>
>
>
> It seems to go against the grain of the program to make an observing list of
> hundreds of objects; though lots of people are doing it if you look through
> the Files section here. You can't really filter them for what's up tonight,
> or limit the magnitude for objects unsuitable for a given observing site. A
> list that large is a catalog and it would be nice to have the full filter
> and search capabilities available for catalogs of my own creation.
>
> I'm new to the program, so maybe I missed something. But, if you can't do it
> with this version of the program, you might consider that for the next. That
> way we users can build up a body of interesting catalogs associated with our
> favorite subjects: carbon stars, doubles with strong color contrasts, the
> complete catalog of Burham's Celestial Handbook, etc.
>
> David
>
> --- In deepskysoftware@yahoogroups.com, "stuma2001" <stuma@...> wrote:
>>
>> Why would you want to do that? An observing plan is simply links to
>> existing objects in one or more catalogs already. The database I use is
>> Microsoft Access so if you have Access you could always create your own that
>> way, but I'd caution you on doing that because if you mess up the data,
>> Deepsky may not work properly.
>>
>> Please tell me more about why you are wanting to do this?
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> --- In deepskysoftware@yahoogroups.com, "David Finlayson"
>> <david.p.finlayson@> wrote:
>> >
>> > Is there an easy way to convert an observing plan into a catalog?
>> >
>>
>
>

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David Finlayson
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Why would you want to do that? An observing plan is simply links to existing objects in one or more catalogs already. The database I use is Microsoft Access...
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Jun 30, 2009
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It seems to go against the grain of the program to make an observing list of hundreds of objects; though lots of people are doing it if you look through the...
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David, DeepSky does have the ability to filter out what you want. Go to the filter sections and play with the settings, read the help files. I have several...
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Thanks for reading my question. I agree that if you work with one of the built-in Deepsky catalogs there are some nice filters available. However, you cannot...
David Finlayson
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David, When you open the plan in DeepSky it will only show you whats visible at your set location and date. If I open the DeepMap600_DSO.pln only 214 of the...
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Again thanks. That is what I do today. It is useful that altitude is the one filter that applies to plans also. But why not magnitude or position filters? ...
David Finlayson
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David, I have converted the Deepmap600_DSO.pln into a catalog. I will send you the info and files later to do this. Its really very easy. If you want to send...
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Sounds like I need to make some enhancements to the plans to allow all of the same filters as with no plans. This is definitely possible so I will add it to...
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That would be great, Steve....
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