--- In dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com, "CJ Welle" <cjwelle@...> wrote:
>
> Hey, you forgot the smoke from range fires and the winter inversions.
>
> C. J. Welle
> Sybaritic Time
> Sandy, Utah
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Guy Koehler
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 11:00 PM
> To: dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [dextercattleonly] Re: Hello
>
>
> Now Utah gets a lot of rain, sand storms, salt storms, and the rivers all
> flood. But not in WA. I live north of Hoquiam near Humptulips. Never rains.
> No sirriee bob. Never at all. Nope.
>
>
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> To: dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com
> From: MurigenII@...
> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:56:39 -0500
> Subject: Re: [dextercattleonly] Re: Hello
>

And the Lake affect snows & East (canyon) winds.

Gary

Hey, you forgot the smoke from range fires and the winter inversions.

C. J. Welle
Sybaritic Time
Sandy, Utah

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From: dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com
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Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 11:00 PM
To: dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [dextercattleonly] Re: Hello


Now Utah gets a lot of rain, sand storms, salt storms, and the rivers all
flood. But not in WA. I live north of Hoquiam near Humptulips. Never rains.
No sirriee bob. Never at all. Nope.


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guy.koehler@... writes:



It  doesn't rain in WA. Never ever



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From:  MurigenII@...

Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:51:59 -0500

Subject: Re:  [dextercattleonly] Re:  Hello



Not likely in this case.   The wind was  accompanied by  rain...lots and



lots of rain.   Then  more rain.



Denise



WA



In a  message dated 11/21/2009 8:49:09 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,



cjwelle@... writes:



If you have had  strong winds, the problem may be as simple as dust  blowing



into  her eyes. We get dust storms when the whole sky turns orange  and

dust



and sand blow everywhere. I know that my eyes and even my  teeth  feel the



grit. The cows are smart enough to stay in the lee  of the barn but  the

dust



is everywhere and they get watery  eyes.



C. J.  Welle



Sybaritic  Time



Sandy, Utah



_____



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(mailto:dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com)



[mailto:_dextercattleonly@dextercattledex_



(mailto:dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com) ]  On Behalf Of  mdragonknight



Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 9:15  AM



To:  _dextercattleonly@dextercattledex_



(mailto:dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com)



Subject:   [dextercattleonly] Re: Hello



Thank you for the response. The  vet called  back and said it's a virus,

like



a cold. He  recommended that she stay dry,  and unstressed (now all I gotta





do



is find cow-sized valium ;?) ) and to  keep an eye on  her. Yesterday her



eyes



cleared up, today their goopy  again.  I'm begining to think she's allergic



to



the rain.  On the bright side, the  storm track is broken and it seems  like



the next week we're going to have  our typical rainy weather,  and not the



near-hurricane strength wind and  rain that we've been  having.



Again thank you and as I am a new owner  and I am  learning as I go along,



expect to hear from me   often.



DK



--- In dextercattleonly@   <mailto:dextercattlmailto:dextercatmailto:>



yahoogroups.yahoogroups.<WBR>com,   "<muckybottomfarm@muc> wrote:



>



> I've  heard  about your rough weather up there back here in Ohio. I've



found



that  aloe/garlic pellets, dried sea kelp mineral,  along with Redmonds Salt



go a  long way in keeping the herd  healthy. Some apple cider vinegar in the



water  also seems to be a  good thing along with some doses of Shacklee's



Basic H.



>



> I can't say as I might know the particular ailment  of your  animal now

but



keeping an animal healthy is easier and  cheaper than a vet  in the long

run.



Check out books by Paul  Detloff or Pat Colbey for organic  treatments and



preventions. See  ACRES USA website and magazine or  Amazon.



>



> Hope  all goes well with the cow.



>



>



> --- In  dextercattleonly@   <mailto:dextercattlmailto:dextercatmailto:>



yahoogroups.yahoogroups.<WBR>com,   <domeliving@> wrote:



> >



> >   Hi.



> >



> > We just got our Dexters on Friday the  13th, a  bull, a pregnent cow

and



a



steer. Since we've got  them, there has been  nothing but storms hitting the



Pacific  Northwet with upto three inches a  day of rain and fifty  mph



sustained wind. Sorry about the weather report  but it is  relevent.



> >



> > I just got from the cow  field  and noticed the cow's eye draining.

Since



I am a new cow  owner, I called my  vet, but he won't be in till  this



afternoon.



> >



> > So  to alay my  fears (or make them worse), I am wondering if this is



something  I  should be overly concerned with. I got myself talked into that



it is  just  a cold, but my wife is insisting that it is an eye  infection.



Only the vet  will know I'm sure, but, until he gets  back to me, does

anyone



have any  insights they could  share?



> >



> > Thanks.



> >   DK



> >



>



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Now Utah gets a lot of rain, sand storms, salt storms, and the rivers all flood.
But not in WA. I live north of Hoquiam near Humptulips. Never rains. No sirriee
bob. Never at all. Nope.


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To: dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com
From: MurigenII@...
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:56:39 -0500
Subject: Re: [dextercattleonly] Re: Hello




























       And the rivers never flood!





In a message dated 11/21/2009 9:53:38 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

guy.koehler@... writes:



It  doesn't rain in WA. Never ever



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From:  MurigenII@...

Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:51:59 -0500

Subject: Re:  [dextercattleonly] Re:  Hello



Not likely in this case.   The wind was  accompanied by  rain...lots and



lots of rain.   Then  more rain.



Denise



WA



In a  message dated 11/21/2009 8:49:09 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,



cjwelle@... writes:



If you have had  strong winds, the problem may be as simple as dust  blowing



into  her eyes. We get dust storms when the whole sky turns orange  and

dust



and sand blow everywhere. I know that my eyes and even my  teeth  feel the



grit. The cows are smart enough to stay in the lee  of the barn but  the

dust



is everywhere and they get watery  eyes.



C. J.  Welle



Sybaritic  Time



Sandy, Utah



_____



From:  _dextercattleonly@dextercattledex_



(mailto:dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com)



[mailto:_dextercattleonly@dextercattledex_



(mailto:dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com) ]  On Behalf Of  mdragonknight



Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 9:15  AM



To:  _dextercattleonly@dextercattledex_



(mailto:dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com)



Subject:   [dextercattleonly] Re: Hello



Thank you for the response. The  vet called  back and said it's a virus,

like



a cold. He  recommended that she stay dry,  and unstressed (now all I gotta





do



is find cow-sized valium ;?) ) and to  keep an eye on  her. Yesterday her



eyes



cleared up, today their goopy  again.  I'm begining to think she's allergic



to



the rain.  On the bright side, the  storm track is broken and it seems  like



the next week we're going to have  our typical rainy weather,  and not the



near-hurricane strength wind and  rain that we've been  having.



Again thank you and as I am a new owner  and I am  learning as I go along,



expect to hear from me   often.



DK



--- In dextercattleonly@   <mailto:dextercattlmailto:dextercatmailto:>



yahoogroups.yahoogroups.<WBR>com,   "<muckybottomfarm@muc> wrote:



>



> I've  heard  about your rough weather up there back here in Ohio. I've



found



that  aloe/garlic pellets, dried sea kelp mineral,  along with Redmonds Salt



go a  long way in keeping the herd  healthy. Some apple cider vinegar in the



water  also seems to be a  good thing along with some doses of Shacklee's



Basic H.



>



> I can't say as I might know the particular ailment  of your  animal now

but



keeping an animal healthy is easier and  cheaper than a vet  in the long

run.



Check out books by Paul  Detloff or Pat Colbey for organic  treatments and



preventions. See  ACRES USA website and magazine or  Amazon.



>



> Hope  all goes well with the cow.



>



>



> --- In  dextercattleonly@   <mailto:dextercattlmailto:dextercatmailto:>



yahoogroups.yahoogroups.<WBR>com,   <domeliving@> wrote:



> >



> >   Hi.



> >



> > We just got our Dexters on Friday the  13th, a  bull, a pregnent cow

and



a



steer. Since we've got  them, there has been  nothing but storms hitting the



Pacific  Northwet with upto three inches a  day of rain and fifty  mph



sustained wind. Sorry about the weather report  but it is  relevent.



> >



> > I just got from the cow  field  and noticed the cow's eye draining.

Since



I am a new cow  owner, I called my  vet, but he won't be in till  this



afternoon.



> >



> > So  to alay my  fears (or make them worse), I am wondering if this is



something  I  should be overly concerned with. I got myself talked into that



it is  just  a cold, but my wife is insisting that it is an eye  infection.



Only the vet  will know I'm sure, but, until he gets  back to me, does

anyone



have any  insights they could  share?



> >



> > Thanks.



> >   DK



> >



>



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In a message dated 11/21/2009 9:53:38 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
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It  doesn't rain in WA. Never ever


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From:  MurigenII@...
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:51:59 -0500
Subject: Re:  [dextercattleonly] Re:  Hello




























Not likely in this case.   The wind was  accompanied by  rain...lots and

lots of rain.   Then  more rain.



Denise

WA





In a  message dated 11/21/2009 8:49:09 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

cjwelle@... writes:



If you have had  strong winds, the problem may be as simple as dust  blowing

into  her eyes. We get dust storms when the whole sky turns orange  and
dust

and sand blow everywhere. I know that my eyes and even my  teeth  feel the

grit. The cows are smart enough to stay in the lee  of the barn but  the
dust

is everywhere and they get watery  eyes.



C. J.  Welle



Sybaritic  Time



Sandy, Utah



_____



From:  _dextercattleonly@dextercattledex_

(mailto:dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com)

[mailto:_dextercattleonly@dextercattledex_

(mailto:dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com) ]  On Behalf Of  mdragonknight

Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 9:15  AM

To:  _dextercattleonly@dextercattledex_

(mailto:dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com)

Subject:   [dextercattleonly] Re: Hello



Thank you for the response. The  vet called  back and said it's a virus,
like

a cold. He  recommended that she stay dry,  and unstressed (now all I gotta


do

is find cow-sized valium ;?) ) and to  keep an eye on  her. Yesterday her

eyes

cleared up, today their goopy  again.  I'm begining to think she's allergic

to

the rain.  On the bright side, the  storm track is broken and it seems  like

the next week we're going to have  our typical rainy weather,  and not the

near-hurricane strength wind and  rain that we've been  having.



Again thank you and as I am a new owner  and I am  learning as I go along,

expect to hear from me   often.



DK



--- In dextercattleonly@   <mailto:dextercattlmailto:dextercatmailto:>

yahoogroups.yahoogroups.<WBR>com,   "<muckybottomfarm@muc> wrote:

>

> I've  heard  about your rough weather up there back here in Ohio. I've

found

that  aloe/garlic pellets, dried sea kelp mineral,  along with Redmonds Salt

go a  long way in keeping the herd  healthy. Some apple cider vinegar in the

water  also seems to be a  good thing along with some doses of Shacklee's

Basic H.

>

> I can't say as I might know the particular ailment  of your  animal now
but

keeping an animal healthy is easier and  cheaper than a vet  in the long
run.

Check out books by Paul  Detloff or Pat Colbey for organic  treatments and

preventions. See  ACRES USA website and magazine or  Amazon.

>

> Hope  all goes well with the cow.

>

>

> --- In  dextercattleonly@   <mailto:dextercattlmailto:dextercatmailto:>

yahoogroups.yahoogroups.<WBR>com,   <domeliving@> wrote:

> >

> >   Hi.

> >

> > We just got our Dexters on Friday the  13th, a  bull, a pregnent cow
and

a

steer. Since we've got  them, there has been  nothing but storms hitting the

Pacific  Northwet with upto three inches a  day of rain and fifty  mph

sustained wind. Sorry about the weather report  but it is  relevent.

> >

> > I just got from the cow  field  and noticed the cow's eye draining.
Since

I am a new cow  owner, I called my  vet, but he won't be in till  this

afternoon.

> >

> > So  to alay my  fears (or make them worse), I am wondering if this is

something  I  should be overly concerned with. I got myself talked into that

it is  just  a cold, but my wife is insisting that it is an eye  infection.

Only the vet  will know I'm sure, but, until he gets  back to me, does
anyone

have any  insights they could  share?

> >

> > Thanks.

> >   DK

> >

>



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Okay, you guys really got slammed.  I haven't been to the Raymond  area,
except to drive through once.  Used to go to Aberdeen/Hoquiam area a  lot when
my brother lived there, and up to Ocean Shores when a friend of my  lived
there.

Denise
WA


In a message dated 11/21/2009 8:39:22 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
domeliving@... writes:




I live down in Raymond.

DK

--- In _dextercattleonly@dextercattledex_
(mailto:dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com) ,  MurigenII@..,  Mu
>
> Hi,
>
> I know exactly  what you're feeling. We went from never having had cows
to
> getting  two Dexter heifers.
>
> I think extra special hay and grain is  just like valium!
>
> Where abouts are you? We're a few miles  south of Puyallup. Wind has
> been nasty here but not as bad as some  places. Ponds are full and the
mud is
> back.
>
>  Denise
> WA
>
>
> In a message dated 11/21/2009  12:00:39 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> domeliving@. domeliving@.
>
>
>
>
> Thank you for the  response. The vet called back and said it's a virus,
like
> a cold. He  recommended that she stay dry, and unstressed (now all I
gotta
> do is  find cow-sized valium ;?) ) and to keep an eye on her. Yesterday
her
>  eyes cleared up, today their goopy again. I'm begining to think she's
>  allergic to the rain. On the bright side, the storm track is broken and
it  seems
> like the next week we're going to have our typical rainy  weather, and
not
> the near-hurricane strength wind and rain that we've  been having.
>
> Again thank you and as I am a new owner and I am  learning as I go along,
> expect to hear from me often.
>
> DK
>
> --- In _dextercattleonly@ --- In _dextercattle
> (mailto:_dextercattleonly@dextercattledex_
(mailto:dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com) )  , "muckybottomfarm"
<muckybottomfarm@muc> wrote:
>  >
> > I've heard about your rough weather up there back here in  Ohio. I've
> found that aloe/garlic pellets, dried sea kelp mineral,  along with
Redmonds
> Salt go a long way in keeping the herd healthy.  Some apple cider vinegar
in
> the water also seems to be a good thing  along with some doses of
Shacklee's
> Basic H.
> >
>  > I can't say as I might know the particular ailment of your animal now
> but keeping an animal healthy is easier and cheaper than a vet in the
long
> run. Check out books by Paul Detloff or Pat Colbey for organic
treatments and
> preventions. See ACRES USA website and magazine or  Amazon.
> >
> > Hope all goes well with the cow.
>  >
> >
> > --- In  _dextercattleonly@ --- In  _dext
> (mailto:_dextercattleonly@dextercattledex_
(mailto:dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com) )  , "mdragonknight" <domeliving@>
wrote:
> > >
>  > > Hi.
> > >
> > > We just got our Dexters on  Friday the 13th, a bull, a pregnent cow
and
> a steer. Since we've got  them, there has been nothing but storms hitting
> the Pacific Northwet  with upto three inches a day of rain and fifty mph
> sustained wind.  Sorry about the weather report but it is relevent.
> > >
>  > > I just got from the cow field and noticed the cow's eye draining.
> Since I am a new cow owner, I called my vet, but he won't be in till
this
> afternoon.
> > >
> > > So to alay my  fears (or make them worse), I am wondering if this is
> something I  should be overly concerned with. I got myself talked into
that it
> is  just a cold, but my wife is insisting that it is an eye infection.
Only
> the vet will know I'm sure, but, until he gets back to me, does  anyone
> have any insights they could share?
> > >
>  > > Thanks.
> > > DK
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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To: dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com
From: MurigenII@...
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:51:59 -0500
Subject: Re: [dextercattleonly] Re: Hello




























       Not likely in this case.   The wind was accompanied by  rain...lots and

lots of rain.   Then more rain.



Denise

WA





In a message dated 11/21/2009 8:49:09 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

cjwelle@... writes:



If you have had strong winds, the problem may be as simple as dust  blowing

into her eyes. We get dust storms when the whole sky turns orange  and dust

and sand blow everywhere. I know that my eyes and even my teeth  feel the

grit. The cows are smart enough to stay in the lee of the barn but  the dust

is everywhere and they get watery eyes.



C. J.  Welle



Sybaritic Time



Sandy, Utah



_____



From: _dextercattleonly@dextercattledex_

(mailto:dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com)

[mailto:_dextercattleonly@dextercattledex_

(mailto:dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com) ]  On Behalf Of mdragonknight

Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 9:15 AM

To:  _dextercattleonly@dextercattledex_

(mailto:dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com)

Subject:  [dextercattleonly] Re: Hello



Thank you for the response. The vet called  back and said it's a virus, like

a cold. He recommended that she stay dry,  and unstressed (now all I gotta

do

is find cow-sized valium ;?) ) and to  keep an eye on her. Yesterday her

eyes

cleared up, today their goopy again.  I'm begining to think she's allergic

to

the rain. On the bright side, the  storm track is broken and it seems like

the next week we're going to have  our typical rainy weather, and not the

near-hurricane strength wind and  rain that we've been having.



Again thank you and as I am a new owner  and I am learning as I go along,

expect to hear from me  often.



DK



--- In dextercattleonly@  <mailto:dextercattlmailto:dextercatmailto:>

yahoogroups.yahoogroups.<WBR>com,  "<muckybottomfarm@muc> wrote:

>

> I've  heard about your rough weather up there back here in Ohio. I've

found

that  aloe/garlic pellets, dried sea kelp mineral, along with Redmonds Salt

go a  long way in keeping the herd healthy. Some apple cider vinegar in the

water  also seems to be a good thing along with some doses of Shacklee's

Basic H.

>

> I can't say as I might know the particular ailment of your  animal now but

keeping an animal healthy is easier and cheaper than a vet  in the long run.

Check out books by Paul Detloff or Pat Colbey for organic  treatments and

preventions. See ACRES USA website and magazine or  Amazon.

>

> Hope all goes well with the cow.

>

>

> --- In dextercattleonly@  <mailto:dextercattlmailto:dextercatmailto:>

yahoogroups.yahoogroups.<WBR>com,  <domeliving@> wrote:

> >

> >  Hi.

> >

> > We just got our Dexters on Friday the 13th, a  bull, a pregnent cow and

a

steer. Since we've got them, there has been  nothing but storms hitting the

Pacific Northwet with upto three inches a  day of rain and fifty mph

sustained wind. Sorry about the weather report  but it is relevent.

> >

> > I just got from the cow field  and noticed the cow's eye draining. Since

I am a new cow owner, I called my  vet, but he won't be in till this

afternoon.

> >

> > So  to alay my fears (or make them worse), I am wondering if this is

something  I should be overly concerned with. I got myself talked into that

it is just  a cold, but my wife is insisting that it is an eye infection.

Only the vet  will know I'm sure, but, until he gets back to me, does anyone

have any  insights they could share?

> >

> > Thanks.

> >  DK

> >

>



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Not likely in this case.   The wind was accompanied by  rain...lots and
lots of rain.   Then more rain.

Denise
WA


In a message dated 11/21/2009 8:49:09 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
cjwelle@... writes:




If you have had strong winds, the problem may be as simple as dust  blowing
into her eyes. We get dust storms when the whole sky turns orange  and dust
and sand blow everywhere. I know that my eyes and even my teeth  feel the
grit. The cows are smart enough to stay in the lee of the barn but  the dust
is everywhere and they get watery eyes.

C. J.  Welle

Sybaritic Time

Sandy, Utah

_____

From: _dextercattleonly@dextercattledex_
(mailto:dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com)
[mailto:_dextercattleonly@dextercattledex_
(mailto:dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com) ]  On Behalf Of mdragonknight
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 9:15 AM
To:  _dextercattleonly@dextercattledex_
(mailto:dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com)
Subject:  [dextercattleonly] Re: Hello

Thank you for the response. The vet called  back and said it's a virus, like
a cold. He recommended that she stay dry,  and unstressed (now all I gotta
do
is find cow-sized valium ;?) ) and to  keep an eye on her. Yesterday her
eyes
cleared up, today their goopy again.  I'm begining to think she's allergic
to
the rain. On the bright side, the  storm track is broken and it seems like
the next week we're going to have  our typical rainy weather, and not the
near-hurricane strength wind and  rain that we've been having.

Again thank you and as I am a new owner  and I am learning as I go along,
expect to hear from me  often.

DK

--- In dextercattleonly@  <mailto:dextercattlmailto:dextercatmailto:>
yahoogroups.yahoogroups.<WBR>com,  "<muckybottomfarm@muc> wrote:
>
> I've  heard about your rough weather up there back here in Ohio. I've
found
that  aloe/garlic pellets, dried sea kelp mineral, along with Redmonds Salt
go a  long way in keeping the herd healthy. Some apple cider vinegar in the
water  also seems to be a good thing along with some doses of Shacklee's
Basic H.
>
> I can't say as I might know the particular ailment of your  animal now but
keeping an animal healthy is easier and cheaper than a vet  in the long run.
Check out books by Paul Detloff or Pat Colbey for organic  treatments and
preventions. See ACRES USA website and magazine or  Amazon.
>
> Hope all goes well with the cow.
>
>
> --- In dextercattleonly@  <mailto:dextercattlmailto:dextercatmailto:>
yahoogroups.yahoogroups.<WBR>com,  <domeliving@> wrote:
> >
> >  Hi.
> >
> > We just got our Dexters on Friday the 13th, a  bull, a pregnent cow and
a
steer. Since we've got them, there has been  nothing but storms hitting the
Pacific Northwet with upto three inches a  day of rain and fifty mph
sustained wind. Sorry about the weather report  but it is relevent.
> >
> > I just got from the cow field  and noticed the cow's eye draining. Since
I am a new cow owner, I called my  vet, but he won't be in till this
afternoon.
> >
> > So  to alay my fears (or make them worse), I am wondering if this is
something  I should be overly concerned with. I got myself talked into that
it is just  a cold, but my wife is insisting that it is an eye infection.
Only the vet  will know I'm sure, but, until he gets back to me, does anyone
have any  insights they could share?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >  DK
> >
>

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If you have had strong winds, the problem may be as simple as dust blowing
into her eyes.  We get dust storms when the whole sky turns orange and dust
and sand blow everywhere.  I know that my eyes and even my teeth feel the
grit.  The cows are smart enough to stay in the lee of the barn but the dust
is everywhere and they get watery eyes.



C. J. Welle

Sybaritic Time

Sandy, Utah



   _____

From: dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mdragonknight
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 9:15 AM
To: dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [dextercattleonly] Re: Hello





Thank you for the response. The vet called back and said it's a virus, like
a cold. He recommended that she stay dry, and unstressed (now all I gotta do
is find cow-sized valium ;?) ) and to keep an eye on her. Yesterday her eyes
cleared up, today their goopy again. I'm begining to think she's allergic to
the rain. On the bright side, the storm track is broken and it seems like
the next week we're going to have our typical rainy weather, and not the
near-hurricane strength wind and rain that we've been having.

Again thank you and as I am a new owner and I am learning as I go along,
expect to hear from me often.

DK

--- In dextercattleonly@ <mailto:dextercattleonly%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, "muckybottomfarm" <muckybottomfarm@...> wrote:
>
> I've heard about your rough weather up there back here in Ohio. I've found
that aloe/garlic pellets, dried sea kelp mineral, along with Redmonds Salt
go a long way in keeping the herd healthy. Some apple cider vinegar in the
water also seems to be a good thing along with some doses of Shacklee's
Basic H.
>
> I can't say as I might know the particular ailment of your animal now but
keeping an animal healthy is easier and cheaper than a vet in the long run.
Check out books by Paul Detloff or Pat Colbey for organic treatments and
preventions. See ACRES USA website and magazine or Amazon.
>
> Hope all goes well with the cow.
>
>
> --- In dextercattleonly@ <mailto:dextercattleonly%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, "mdragonknight" <domeliving@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi.
> >
> > We just got our Dexters on Friday the 13th, a bull, a pregnent cow and a
steer. Since we've got them, there has been nothing but storms hitting the
Pacific Northwet with upto three inches a day of rain and fifty mph
sustained wind. Sorry about the weather report but it is relevent.
> >
> > I just got from the cow field and noticed the cow's eye draining. Since
I am a new cow owner, I called my vet, but he won't be in till this
afternoon.
> >
> > So to alay my fears (or make them worse), I am wondering if this is
something I should be overly concerned with. I got myself talked into that
it is just a cold, but my wife is insisting that it is an eye infection.
Only the vet will know I'm sure, but, until he gets back to me, does anyone
have any insights they could share?
> >
> > Thanks.
> > DK
> >
>





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I live down in Raymond.

DK

--- In dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com, MurigenII@... wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I know exactly what you're feeling.  We went from never having had  cows to
> getting two Dexter heifers.
>
> I think extra special hay and grain is just like valium!
>
> Where abouts are you?  We're a few miles south of  Puyallup.   Wind has
> been nasty here but not as bad as some  places.  Ponds are full and the mud is
> back.
>
> Denise
> WA
>
>
> In a message dated 11/21/2009 12:00:39 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> domeliving@... writes:
>
>
>
>
> Thank you for the response. The vet called back and said it's a virus, like
>  a cold. He recommended that she stay dry, and unstressed (now all I gotta
> do  is find cow-sized valium ;?) ) and to keep an eye on her. Yesterday her
> eyes  cleared up, today their goopy again. I'm begining to think she's
> allergic to  the rain. On the bright side, the storm track is broken and it
seems
> like the  next week we're going to have our typical rainy weather, and not
> the  near-hurricane strength wind and rain that we've been having.
>
> Again  thank you and as I am a new owner and I am learning as I go along,
> expect to  hear from me often.
>
> DK
>
> --- In _dextercattleonly@dextercattledex_
> (mailto:dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com) ,  "muckybottomfarm"
<muckybottomfarm@muc> wrote:
> >
> > I've  heard about your rough weather up there back here in Ohio. I've
> found that  aloe/garlic pellets, dried sea kelp mineral, along with Redmonds
> Salt go a  long way in keeping the herd healthy. Some apple cider vinegar in
> the water  also seems to be a good thing along with some doses of Shacklee's
> Basic H.
> >
> > I can't say as I might know the particular ailment of your  animal now
> but keeping an animal healthy is easier and cheaper than a vet in  the long
> run. Check out books by Paul Detloff or Pat Colbey for organic  treatments and
> preventions. See ACRES USA website and magazine or  Amazon.
> >
> > Hope all goes well with the cow.
> >
> >
> > --- In _dextercattleonly@dextercattledex_
> (mailto:dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com) ,  "mdragonknight" <domeliving@>
wrote:
> > >
> > >  Hi.
> > >
> > > We just got our Dexters on Friday the 13th, a  bull, a pregnent cow and
> a steer. Since we've got them, there has been nothing  but storms hitting
> the Pacific Northwet with upto three inches a day of rain  and fifty mph
> sustained wind. Sorry about the weather report but it is  relevent.
> > >
> > > I just got from the cow field and noticed  the cow's eye draining.
> Since I am a new cow owner, I called my vet, but he  won't be in till this
> afternoon.
> > >
> > > So to alay my  fears (or make them worse), I am wondering if this is
> something I should be  overly concerned with. I got myself talked into that it
> is just a cold, but my  wife is insisting that it is an eye infection. Only
> the vet will know I'm  sure, but, until he gets back to me, does anyone
> have any insights they could  share?
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > > DK
> >  >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hi,

I know exactly what you're feeling.  We went from never having had  cows to
getting two Dexter heifers.

I think extra special hay and grain is just like valium!

Where abouts are you?  We're a few miles south of  Puyallup.   Wind has
been nasty here but not as bad as some  places.  Ponds are full and the mud is
back.

Denise
WA


In a message dated 11/21/2009 12:00:39 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
domeliving@... writes:




Thank you for the response. The vet called back and said it's a virus, like
  a cold. He recommended that she stay dry, and unstressed (now all I gotta
do  is find cow-sized valium ;?) ) and to keep an eye on her. Yesterday her
eyes  cleared up, today their goopy again. I'm begining to think she's
allergic to  the rain. On the bright side, the storm track is broken and it
seems
like the  next week we're going to have our typical rainy weather, and not
the  near-hurricane strength wind and rain that we've been having.

Again  thank you and as I am a new owner and I am learning as I go along,
expect to  hear from me often.

DK

--- In _dextercattleonly@dextercattledex_
(mailto:dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com) ,  "muckybottomfarm"
<muckybottomfarm@muc> wrote:
>
> I've  heard about your rough weather up there back here in Ohio. I've
found that  aloe/garlic pellets, dried sea kelp mineral, along with Redmonds
Salt go a  long way in keeping the herd healthy. Some apple cider vinegar in
the water  also seems to be a good thing along with some doses of Shacklee's
Basic H.
>
> I can't say as I might know the particular ailment of your  animal now
but keeping an animal healthy is easier and cheaper than a vet in  the long
run. Check out books by Paul Detloff or Pat Colbey for organic  treatments and
preventions. See ACRES USA website and magazine or  Amazon.
>
> Hope all goes well with the cow.
>
>
> --- In _dextercattleonly@dextercattledex_
(mailto:dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com) ,  "mdragonknight" <domeliving@>
wrote:
> >
> >  Hi.
> >
> > We just got our Dexters on Friday the 13th, a  bull, a pregnent cow and
a steer. Since we've got them, there has been nothing  but storms hitting
the Pacific Northwet with upto three inches a day of rain  and fifty mph
sustained wind. Sorry about the weather report but it is  relevent.
> >
> > I just got from the cow field and noticed  the cow's eye draining.
Since I am a new cow owner, I called my vet, but he  won't be in till this
afternoon.
> >
> > So to alay my  fears (or make them worse), I am wondering if this is
something I should be  overly concerned with. I got myself talked into that it
is just a cold, but my  wife is insisting that it is an eye infection. Only
the vet will know I'm  sure, but, until he gets back to me, does anyone
have any insights they could  share?
> >
> > Thanks.
> > DK
>  >
>







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Thank you for the response.  The vet called back and said it's a virus, like a
cold.  He recommended that she stay dry, and unstressed (now all I gotta do is
find cow-sized valium ;?) )  and to keep an eye on her.  Yesterday her eyes
cleared up, today their goopy again.  I'm begining to think she's allergic to
the rain.  On the bright side, the storm track is broken and it seems like the
next week we're going to have our typical rainy weather, and not the
near-hurricane strength wind and rain that we've been having.

Again thank you and as I am a new owner and I am learning as I go along, expect
to hear from me often.

DK

--- In dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com, "muckybottomfarm" <muckybottomfarm@...>
wrote:
>
> I've heard about your rough weather up there back here in Ohio.  I've found
that aloe/garlic pellets, dried sea kelp mineral, along with Redmonds Salt go a
long way in keeping the herd healthy.  Some apple cider vinegar in the water
also seems to be a good thing along with some doses of Shacklee's Basic H.
>
> I can't say as I might know the particular ailment of your animal now but
keeping an animal healthy is easier and cheaper than a vet in the long run. 
Check out books by Paul Detloff or Pat Colbey for organic treatments and
preventions.  See ACRES USA website and magazine or Amazon.
>
> Hope all goes well with the cow.
>
>
> --- In dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com, "mdragonknight" <domeliving@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi.
> >
> > We just got our Dexters on Friday the 13th, a bull, a pregnent cow and a
steer.  Since we've got them, there has been nothing but storms hitting the
Pacific Northwet with upto three inches a day of rain and fifty mph sustained
wind.  Sorry about the weather report but it is relevent.
> >
> > I just got from the cow field and noticed the cow's eye draining.  Since I
am a new cow owner, I called my vet, but he won't be in till this afternoon.
> >
> > So to alay my fears (or make them worse), I am wondering if this is
something I should be overly concerned with.  I got myself talked into that it
is just a cold, but my wife is insisting that it is an eye infection.  Only the
vet will know I'm sure, but, until he gets back to me, does anyone have any
insights they could share?
> >
> > Thanks.
> > DK
> >
>

in my experience, MBF is giving excellent advice, I would add cayenne pepper. 
What I have found works for eye infections is a mixture of honey and cod liver
oil thinned in water applied directly into the eye, 3 or 4 times a day for 3 or
4 days.  That is the most effective cure for conjunctivitis that I have found.

I am in Lynnwood here in the PNW, where are you?

Doris

> To: dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com
> From: muckybottomfarm@...
> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 02:18:44 +0000
> Subject: [dextercattleonly] Re: Hello
>
> I've heard about your rough weather up there back here in Ohio.  I've found
that aloe/garlic pellets, dried sea kelp mineral, along with Redmonds Salt go a
long way in keeping the herd healthy.  Some apple cider vinegar in the water
also seems to be a good thing along with some doses of Shacklee's Basic H.
>
> I can't say as I might know the particular ailment of your animal now but
keeping an animal healthy is easier and cheaper than a vet in the long run. 
Check out books by Paul Detloff or Pat Colbey for organic treatments and
preventions.  See ACRES USA website and magazine or Amazon.
>
> Hope all goes well with the cow.
>
>
> --- In dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com, "mdragonknight" <domeliving@...>
wrote:
> >
> > Hi.
> >
> > We just got our Dexters on Friday the 13th, a bull, a pregnent cow and a
steer.  Since we've got them, there has been nothing but storms hitting the
Pacific Northwet with upto three inches a day of rain and fifty mph sustained
wind.  Sorry about the weather report but it is relevent.
> >
> > I just got from the cow field and noticed the cow's eye draining.  Since I
am a new cow owner, I called my vet, but he won't be in till this afternoon.
> >
> > So to alay my fears (or make them worse), I am wondering if this is
something I should be overly concerned with.  I got myself talked into that it
is just a cold, but my wife is insisting that it is an eye infection.  Only the
vet will know I'm sure, but, until he gets back to me, does anyone have any
insights they could share?
> >
> > Thanks.
> > DK
> >
>
>
>
>
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>
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>
>
>

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I've heard about your rough weather up there back here in Ohio.  I've found that
aloe/garlic pellets, dried sea kelp mineral, along with Redmonds Salt go a long
way in keeping the herd healthy.  Some apple cider vinegar in the water also
seems to be a good thing along with some doses of Shacklee's Basic H.

I can't say as I might know the particular ailment of your animal now but
keeping an animal healthy is easier and cheaper than a vet in the long run. 
Check out books by Paul Detloff or Pat Colbey for organic treatments and
preventions.  See ACRES USA website and magazine or Amazon.

Hope all goes well with the cow.


--- In dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com, "mdragonknight" <domeliving@...> wrote:
>
> Hi.
>
> We just got our Dexters on Friday the 13th, a bull, a pregnent cow and a
steer.  Since we've got them, there has been nothing but storms hitting the
Pacific Northwet with upto three inches a day of rain and fifty mph sustained
wind.  Sorry about the weather report but it is relevent.
>
> I just got from the cow field and noticed the cow's eye draining.  Since I am
a new cow owner, I called my vet, but he won't be in till this afternoon.
>
> So to alay my fears (or make them worse), I am wondering if this is something
I should be overly concerned with.  I got myself talked into that it is just a
cold, but my wife is insisting that it is an eye infection.  Only the vet will
know I'm sure, but, until he gets back to me, does anyone have any insights they
could share?
>
> Thanks.
> DK
>

We are delivering 2 Dexters to 2 different new homes in NC on November
30th.  We have a few outstanding cows still available - they are on our
website.., 1 black long legged  that carries red and dun exposed to a dun  LL
bull, 1 black short legged exposed to a dun LL bull and 1 black long legged
that carries red and dun and is available with her dehorned steer calf at
side.  ALL are halter broke, dehorned, PHA tested negative (agrigenomics)  very
healthy and ready to go.  The bull they are exposed to is also PHA
negative. Getting health certs done this coming Tuesday so if interested and are
in
NC (or anywhere between Philadelphia, TN Charlotte and Raleigh, NC)  let
us know.  Picts and more information on our website
_www.freedomfarmdexters.com_ (http://www.freedomfarmdexters.com)

Sally


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Wait for your vet to appear. It's nothing serious enough to require immediate
attention.





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Join me

To: dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com
From: domeliving@...
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:38:42 +0000
Subject: [dextercattleonly] Hello




























       Hi.



We just got our Dexters on Friday the 13th, a bull, a pregnent cow and a steer. 
Since we've got them, there has been nothing but storms hitting the Pacific
Northwet with upto three inches a day of rain and fifty mph sustained wind. 
Sorry about the weather report but it is relevent.



I just got from the cow field and noticed the cow's eye draining.  Since I am a
new cow owner, I called my vet, but he won't be in till this afternoon.



So to alay my fears (or make them worse), I am wondering if this is something I
should be overly concerned with.  I got myself talked into that it is just a
cold, but my wife is insisting that it is an eye infection.  Only the vet will
know I'm sure, but, until he gets back to me, does anyone have any insights they
could share?



Thanks.

DK



















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Hi.

We just got our Dexters on Friday the 13th, a bull, a pregnent cow and a steer. 
Since we've got them, there has been nothing but storms hitting the Pacific
Northwet with upto three inches a day of rain and fifty mph sustained wind. 
Sorry about the weather report but it is relevent.

I just got from the cow field and noticed the cow's eye draining.  Since I am a
new cow owner, I called my vet, but he won't be in till this afternoon.

So to alay my fears (or make them worse), I am wondering if this is something I
should be overly concerned with.  I got myself talked into that it is just a
cold, but my wife is insisting that it is an eye infection.  Only the vet will
know I'm sure, but, until he gets back to me, does anyone have any insights they
could share?

Thanks.
DK

We are over in Crawford area, Delta county, a bit south of Grand Junction.

Tammy
 Great book on Australian Shepherds!
www.allaboutaussies-australianshepherdsfromatoz.com

Keep our country free! Learn about NAIS and how it will affect your life!
www.nonais.org
http://farmandranchfreedom.org/content/





________________________________
From: Margaret L. Wilson <booldawgs@...>
To: dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, November 15, 2009 5:54:13 PM
Subject: Re: [dextercattleonly] intro

 
I had a few non Dexter girls and found that my Dexter bull made a great cross
with them. Not as good as purebred but larger and very tasty. As a Colorado
transplant :-))) where are you?
Margaret
http://www.farfaraw ayfarm.blogspot. com/

----- Original Message -----
From: Tammy
To: dexiittercattleonly @yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 2:04 PM
Subject: [dextercattleonly] intro

Hello,

My husband and I have a small ranch in western CO and are considering purchasing
a Dexter bull for our first time heifers. The heifers are no particular breed,
as we bought them at the sale. I've done a bit of research on the Dexter and
like that they are easy to handle, have a lower food cost, have excellent cuts
of meat despite being smaller, and low birth weight on calves.

We are looking forward to learning more about this breed and if it will fit in
and suit our goals.

Tammy
CT Ranch
Great book on Australian Shepherds! www.allaboutaussies -australiansheph
erdsfromatoz. com

Keep our country free! Learn about NAIS and how it will affect your life!
www.nonais.org
http://farmandranchfreedom.org/content/

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I had a few non Dexter girls and found that my Dexter bull made a great cross
with them.  Not as good as purebred but larger and very tasty.  As a Colorado
transplant :-)))  where are you?
Margaret
http://www.farfarawayfarm.blogspot.com/

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Tammy
   To: dexiittercattleonly@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 2:04 PM
   Subject: [dextercattleonly] intro



   Hello,

   My husband and I have a small ranch in western CO and are considering
purchasing a Dexter bull for our first time heifers. The heifers are no
particular breed, as we bought them at the sale. I've done a bit of research on
the Dexter and like that they are easy to handle, have a lower food cost, have
excellent cuts of meat despite being smaller, and low birth weight on calves.

   We are looking forward to learning more about this breed and if it will fit in
and suit our goals.

   Tammy
   CT Ranch
    Great book on Australian Shepherds!
www.allaboutaussies-australianshepherdsfromatoz.com

   Keep our country free! Learn about NAIS and how it will affect your life!
   www.nonais.org
   http://farmandranchfreedom.org/content/

   [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hello,

My husband and I have a small ranch in western CO and are considering purchasing
a Dexter bull for our first time heifers. The heifers are no particular breed,
as we bought them at the sale. I've done a bit of research on the Dexter and
like that they are easy to handle, have a lower food cost, have excellent cuts
of meat despite being smaller, and low birth weight on calves. 

We are looking forward to learning more about this breed and if it will fit in
and suit our goals.

Tammy
CT Ranch
 Great book on Australian Shepherds!
www.allaboutaussies-australianshepherdsfromatoz.com

Keep our country free! Learn about NAIS and how it will affect your life!
www.nonais.org
http://farmandranchfreedom.org/content/





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Here ya go.

http://www.redbrand.com/products/product2.asp?category=Fence&subcat=2&productID=\
13

  Dirk


Macaw Ranch
Dawson Texas
Dexter Cattle, Red Wattle Hogs, Kiko and Spanish Goats




________________________________
From: fidefarmanddairy <mujar@...>
To: dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, November 12, 2009 7:35:19 PM
Subject: [dextercattleonly] Re: Fencing Questions from the new guy!


Dirk, what do you mean by high tensile field fence?  I was talking about the
180,000 PSI 12.5 gauge high tensile fence tha comes in like 4,000 foot spools. 
Would the fence I just described be adequate.  I never thought about the other
cows getting excited about my tiny dexter when in heat.  My neigbor just sold
his 80 head of Black Angus so all I have is 110 acres of pasture with no pesky
big cows.
Thanks Again

--- In dextercattleonly@ yahoogroups. com, dirk loren <macawranch@ ...> wrote:
>
> If you are using high tensile wire then you can electrify the individual wire.
If you are using high tensile field fence, then you would probably not need to
hot wire at all.
>
> Once your cattle are trained to hot fence then one or two wires will probably
be all you need.  However you probably don't want to hot wire your perimeter
fence for liability reasons.
>
> If you have cattle that are behaved then 36 inches would be high enough.  When
I was loading 2 bulls this year I had one sit on his haunches and clear a 52
inch cattle panel.
>
> You certainly could use a portable.
>
> You should have a chute for tagging, injections, vaccinations, minor surgery,
Inspections, hoof trimming etc.  You could even use one to milk in.  You could
also load with one.
>
> The bigger question might be how do you keep your neighbors Charolais,
Hereford, Brangus bull from breeding your little tiny Dexter cow when she comes
into heat.
>  Dirk
>
>
> Macaw Ranch
> Dawson Texas
> Dexter Cattle, Red Wattle Hogs, Kiko and Spanish Goats
>
>
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: fidefarmanddairy <mujar@...>
> To: dextercattleonly@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Thu, November 12, 2009 10:51:55 AM
> Subject: [dextercattleonly] Fencing Questions from the new guy!
>
>
> WOW your responses to my firt post were so good I printed them so I could read
them away from a computer!  Now, just a few more about fencing.
>
> Would high tensile be a good option, that is what I want to use.
>
> How far apart should the strands of wire be?
>
> How high should it be?
>
> Should I run a one hot wire in front of the actual fence?
>
> Can I use a portable electric fence for rotational grazing?
>
> Since Dexters are docile do I need a chute to load/unload?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

The NRCS is a department of the USDA. They have an excellent illustrated
pamphlet about fence design. It includes all the popular types of fencing.

For high tensile fencing, it tells how far apart to set the posts, gives options
for electrifying it, tells how to make corners and gates and tells what hardware
to use to maintain the tension.

You can find your USDA office listed in your local phone book, or contact your
local extension agent. They'll hook you up.

The pamphlet is free.

There is almost no barrier fence that a cow can't climb, jump or ride down.
Electric fencing isn't foolproof. If the posts are too far apart, the calves
will spread the wires as they jump through.

The fence that I like best is field fencing, installed on 10' or less post
spacing, with an electric wire across the top and another at nose height on
extension insulators.

Genebo
Paradise Farm

Dirk, what do you mean by high tensile field fence?  I was talking about the
180,000 PSI 12.5 gauge high tensile fence tha comes in like 4,000 foot spools. 
Would the fence I just described be adequate.  I never thought about the other
cows getting excited about my tiny dexter when in heat.  My neigbor just sold
his 80 head of Black Angus so all I have is 110 acres of pasture with no pesky
big cows.
Thanks Again

--- In dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com, dirk loren <macawranch@...> wrote:
>
> If you are using high tensile wire then you can electrify the individual wire.
If you are using high tensile field fence, then you would probably not need to
hot wire at all.
>
> Once your cattle are trained to hot fence then one or two wires will probably
be all you need.  However you probably don't want to hot wire your perimeter
fence for liability reasons.
>
> If you have cattle that are behaved then 36 inches would be high enough.  When
I was loading 2 bulls this year I had one sit on his haunches and clear a 52
inch cattle panel.
>
> You certainly could use a portable.
>
> You should have a chute for tagging, injections, vaccinations, minor surgery,
Inspections, hoof trimming etc.  You could even use one to milk in.  You could
also load with one.
>
> The bigger question might be how do you keep your neighbors Charolais,
Hereford, Brangus bull from breeding your little tiny Dexter cow when she comes
into heat.
>  Dirk
>
>
> Macaw Ranch
> Dawson Texas
> Dexter Cattle, Red Wattle Hogs, Kiko and Spanish Goats
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: fidefarmanddairy <mujar@...>
> To: dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, November 12, 2009 10:51:55 AM
> Subject: [dextercattleonly] Fencing Questions from the new guy!
>
>
> WOW your responses to my firt post were so good I printed them so I could read
them away from a computer!  Now, just a few more about fencing.
>
> Would high tensile be a good option, that is what I want to use.
>
> How far apart should the strands of wire be?
>
> How high should it be?
>
> Should I run a one hot wire in front of the actual fence?
>
> Can I use a portable electric fence for rotational grazing?
>
> Since Dexters are docile do I need a chute to load/unload?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

No I meant high tensile fence, sorry.  I do not want to use barbed wire.  But I
gues I could run 4 strands of high tensile, and insulate two of them for future
use as electric.
Thanks

--- In dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com, MurigenII@... wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> When you say strands I assume you mean barb wire.  I won't use that
> because of possible injury to animals and people and because I've seen cows
walk
> through a four strand barb wire fence.
>
> What we used was 4 ft livestock/fiend fencing for the outside (property
> line).   We put posts every 8 feet (either metal or 4" rounds) and  large
> posts (6x6 or 6-8" round) every hundred feet with cross supports.  In  some
> places the corner posts are railroad ties.  Since cows love to scratch  we ran
> two strands of hot wire, one at about nose level and another about 4-6
> inches off the ground.  So far that's worked really well.  So  well that we
ended
> up disconnecting the lower wire.  For cross fencing  we use two strands of
> hot wire, and use mostly the plastic posts that can be  easily put in and
> taken out.  We've had the calves go through that when the  strands weren't
> close enough but that hasn't been a problem.  The only time  one of the cows
or
> larger steer went through was when they were being chased by  a dog.
>
> As far a chutes, if you have your animals halter and lead trained you
> shouldn't have a problem, if they aren't trained then yes you'll need a 
chute.
> The first steer we bought was a year old and not halter  trained.  He did
> not want to get into that strange thing.  It took a  chute and a bribe
> (grain) to get him in.  Once in he was fine.  To  unload we backed the trailer
up
> to the stall we wanted him in and opened it up.
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> Denise
> WA
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 11/12/2009 9:24:38 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> mujar@... writes:
>
>
>
>
> WOW your responses to my firt post were so good I printed them so I could
> read them away from a computer! Now, just a few more about  fencing.
>
> Would high tensile be a good option, that is what I want to  use.
>
> How far apart should the strands of wire be?
>
> How high  should it be?
>
> Should I run a one hot wire in front of the actual  fence?
>
> Can I use a portable electric fence for rotational grazing?
>
> Since Dexters are docile do I need a chute to  load/unload?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

We have used Electric Hi Tensile Fence since the late 1970's  It last for almost
ever. we use a low impedance fence charger. right now we have over five miles of
it up. Dare, or Kencove Farms have Fencing Guides for Free. We use 3 to 4 
Strand  for Cow/Calf pastures. It is fairly inexpensive, and Easy to put up. We
have a big problem with Deer in our area, and this type of fencing is the only
one that holds up

If you are using high tensile wire then you can electrify the individual wire. 
If you are using high tensile field fence, then you would probably not need to
hot wire at all.

Once your cattle are trained to hot fence then one or two wires will probably be
all you need.  However you probably don't want to hot wire your perimeter fence
for liability reasons.

If you have cattle that are behaved then 36 inches would be high enough.  When I
was loading 2 bulls this year I had one sit on his haunches and clear a 52 inch
cattle panel.

You certainly could use a portable.

You should have a chute for tagging, injections, vaccinations, minor surgery,
Inspections, hoof trimming etc.  You could even use one to milk in.  You could
also load with one.

The bigger question might be how do you keep your neighbors Charolais, Hereford,
Brangus bull from breeding your little tiny Dexter cow when she comes into heat.
  Dirk


Macaw Ranch
Dawson Texas
Dexter Cattle, Red Wattle Hogs, Kiko and Spanish Goats




________________________________
From: fidefarmanddairy <mujar@...>
To: dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, November 12, 2009 10:51:55 AM
Subject: [dextercattleonly] Fencing Questions from the new guy!


WOW your responses to my firt post were so good I printed them so I could read
them away from a computer!  Now, just a few more about fencing.

Would high tensile be a good option, that is what I want to use.

How far apart should the strands of wire be?

How high should it be?

Should I run a one hot wire in front of the actual fence?

Can I use a portable electric fence for rotational grazing?

Since Dexters are docile do I need a chute to load/unload?







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I use 4'  field/box wire with a strand of barb at the top. 2 strands  if
the topography makes it iffy. I don't use hot wire anymore as I had bad luck
with it when I raised full sized steers. The only time my cows get out is if
I  have a hole in the fence or the time last year when ZsuZsu was REALLY
upset. She  went over - naughty girl. Anyway, we haven't had any problems with
the cattle  getting out. It's the goats we have trouble keeping in. When I
had the steers, I  ran 4 strands of barbed - no field fence. We use that
now, again, for the goats,  not the cattle.

We space posts similar to the previous response. We set the field fence
only about an inch off the ground due to aforementioned goats - not due to the
  cows. The cows will test the fencing but unless they can easily get over
it or  find a hole, they pretty much leave it alone.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi,

When you say strands I assume you mean barb wire.  I won't use that
because of possible injury to animals and people and because I've seen cows walk
through a four strand barb wire fence.

What we used was 4 ft livestock/fiend fencing for the outside (property
line).   We put posts every 8 feet (either metal or 4" rounds) and  large
posts (6x6 or 6-8" round) every hundred feet with cross supports.  In  some
places the corner posts are railroad ties.  Since cows love to scratch  we ran
two strands of hot wire, one at about nose level and another about 4-6
inches off the ground.  So far that's worked really well.  So  well that we
ended
up disconnecting the lower wire.  For cross fencing  we use two strands of
hot wire, and use mostly the plastic posts that can be  easily put in and
taken out.  We've had the calves go through that when the  strands weren't
close enough but that hasn't been a problem.  The only time  one of the cows or
larger steer went through was when they were being chased by  a dog.

As far a chutes, if you have your animals halter and lead trained you
shouldn't have a problem, if they aren't trained then yes you'll need a  chute.
The first steer we bought was a year old and not halter  trained.  He did
not want to get into that strange thing.  It took a  chute and a bribe
(grain) to get him in.  Once in he was fine.  To  unload we backed the trailer
up
to the stall we wanted him in and opened it up.

Hope this helps!

Denise
WA




In a message dated 11/12/2009 9:24:38 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
mujar@... writes:




WOW your responses to my firt post were so good I printed them so I could
read them away from a computer! Now, just a few more about  fencing.

Would high tensile be a good option, that is what I want to  use.

How far apart should the strands of wire be?

How high  should it be?

Should I run a one hot wire in front of the actual  fence?

Can I use a portable electric fence for rotational grazing?

Since Dexters are docile do I need a chute to  load/unload?







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

WOW your responses to my firt post were so good I printed them so I could read
them away from a computer!  Now, just a few more about fencing.

Would high tensile be a good option, that is what I want to use.

How far apart should the strands of wire be?

How high should it be?

Should I run a one hot wire in front of the actual fence?

Can I use a portable electric fence for rotational grazing?

Since Dexters are docile do I need a chute to load/unload?

"Margaret wrote:
>
> I have a small Dexter cow living at my son's ranch near Penngrove/ Petaluma.  
I would love to breed this sweet little cow to my bull, Julius, but he is in
Oregon.  I am living in Southern California and don't really want go haul either
one to each other.
>

I have 4S Midnight here, if you'd like to use him, but you will have to bring
her here. It's about a 2 hr. trip.
How is she doing?

Kim in Guinda

As kids my sister and I made apple cider.  We always made more than we could
drink and some would ferment to hard cider.  If any of that was left it
would ferment again to make vinegar.  We just put the juice in glass gallon
jugs.  Mom always diluted that vinegar.  It was more potent than the store
bought kind.

C. J. Welle
Sybaritic Time
Sandy, Utah

-----Original Message-----
From: dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Wes Jones
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:53 AM
To: dextercattleonly@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [dextercattleonly] Height and Butchering

Actually some molds are useful for converting certain starches to sugars
which are then coverted to alcohol as in rice vinegar.

http://www.springerlink.com/content/tq83582042146643/

But in general the alcohol and acetic acid prevents or kills mold
growth...which is why we use it to preserve pickles and other foods.

I'm not saying your suggestion isn't valid or workable...just that there
are other ways of doing things.


Best, wes

On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:27:05 -0500, dirk loren <macawranch@...>
wrote:

> Sorry seen way too much mold on fruit left out to try an unaided process.
> Yes yeast likes dark places,
>
> We make sponges and starters for bread all the time.
>  Dirk
>
>
> Macaw Ranch
> Dawson Texas
> Dexter Cattle, Red Wattle Hogs, Kiko and Spanish Goats

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