Jim I've sent you samples off-list. I've tried one other reflector and got the same results.
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 12:11 AM, Jim Fenton <fenton@...> wrote:
--- In dkim-testers@yahoogroups.com, "Phil Wallisch"
<philwallisch@...> wrote:
>
> Hello. I have DKIM signing enabled on my Secure Computing Ironmail
> appliance. When sending test messages to the dkim.org reflector I get
> mixed results. When I send from my Mac/Entourage client the DKIM
> passes every time. When I send from my Windows/Outlook client the
> DKIM fails every time. The MUAs go through the same set of MTAs. Any
> advice?
>
I have a hunch this is a canonicalization problem. Have you tried
other reflectors? Can you try sending me a message directly, off-list?
I trying to implement DKIM within our email service. I'm receiving the
result from the reflector: [DKIM-Sig: Warning] Null Signature.
I try to modify several things but I keep getting this error.
/* Original EMail */
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=tralix.com; s=testdkim;
c=simple/relaxed; q=dns/txt; i=testdkim@...;
h=date:from:reply-to:to:subject:sender:mime-version:content-type;
bh=fawza4N9pXolelxo+qMpw8lARdcBchY4PennmJ0BHKw=;
b=iulWRcgDbr9FQgMX0seQYgkUzMOH0IrLrNDUN5NPO18M11s1PK92dFj370NqrF1n5N4jn4CNC6TtAj\
ekwwt2CjYL/dcz7d4Fl+7/8pA9YFjRRMeQ/eTZ04lVQUtlC4guKvn4rN3Ni6yMFAfDv0GMDfFzhPx6Mu\
k2uXzHQ2qNuFo=
Message-ID: <1.23.1.1.25@...>
Date: 29 feb 2008 11:32:08 -0000
From: <lares@...>
Reply-to: DKIM Test <lares@...>
Errors-To: <lares@...>
X-Mailer: TRALiX [Tralix Delivery 5.0.2.105]
X-EAuthentix: aa05e5d3d77c4d0886754f8511b04475
X-Tralix-Manifesto: #
To: <dkim-test@...>
Subject: Test DKIM
Sender: <lares@...>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Este es un correo de prueba para verificar el correcto funcionamiento
del Delivery al momento
de firmar un correo con DKIM.
Atte.
Rene Lares.
/* End original EMail */
Any ideas why I get this error?
Thanks.
I have been noticing quite a few signature failures lately due to the
g= value on the key not matching the local-part of the i= value in the
signature. This appears to be due to the common use of key records
(selectors) by signers applying both DomainKeys and DKIM signatures.
While the selectors are designed to be compatible, the example given in
the DomainKeys specification (RFC 4870) section 3.2.3 is NOT compatible
with DKIM.
The example, which looks like:
brisbane._domainkey IN TXT "g=; k=rsa; p=MHww ... IDAQAB"
begins with g=;. To DomainKeys, this means "match any address in the
domain". To DKIM, it means "match no address in the domain" (match any
address would be g=*; ).
I strongly suggest that DK or DKIM key records not include the g=
tag/value unless they want to restrict a key to a specific
signing-address local-part, since the default values in both cases are
correct for unrestricted keys.
-Jim
--- In dkim-testers@yahoogroups.com, "Phil Wallisch"
<philwallisch@...> wrote:
>
> Hello. I have DKIM signing enabled on my Secure Computing Ironmail
> appliance. When sending test messages to the dkim.org reflector I get
> mixed results. When I send from my Mac/Entourage client the DKIM
> passes every time. When I send from my Windows/Outlook client the
> DKIM fails every time. The MUAs go through the same set of MTAs. Any
> advice?
>
I have a hunch this is a canonicalization problem. Have you tried
other reflectors? Can you try sending me a message directly, off-list?
-Jim
Hello. I have DKIM signing enabled on my Secure Computing Ironmail
appliance. When sending test messages to the dkim.org reflector I get
mixed results. When I send from my Mac/Entourage client the DKIM
passes every time. When I send from my Windows/Outlook client the
DKIM fails every time. The MUAs go through the same set of MTAs. Any
advice?
I've just pushed out a new version that adds canonicalization tracing and
also fixes an issue verifying 'relaxed' headers if the signature is followed
by a semicolon.
.. Juan
Hi Dave,
> Should <http://testing.dkim.org/reflector.html> be updated, to uhhh, errrr,
> reflect the current level of the specification that is supported by the
> various reflectors?
Please add ours to the list. We support the -10 ietf draft only.
.. Juan
> Should <http://testing.dkim.org/reflector.html> be updated, to uhhh,
errrr, reflect
> the current level of the specification that is supported by the
various reflectors?
Right now, our reflector is verifying allman-01 and ietf-0.5. We will
be changing to ietf-1.0 ASAP!
--
Arvel Hathcock
CEO, Alt-N Technologies
http://www.altn.com
Juan, your verifier works with our signatures without any problems (so far).
And I must say that the report returned from your reflector is very
impressive and useful. Puts ours to shame really. Good job!
--
Arvel Hathcock
CEO, Alt-N Technologies
http://www.altn.com
Juan Altmayer Pizzorno wrote:
> I thought I'd let you know that our reflector now does DKIM verification.
> The update was actually done quite a while back, but we didn't make an
> announcement, so...
>
> .. Juan
> _______________________________________________
> dkim-dev mailing list
> dkim-dev@...
> http://mipassoc.org/mailman/listinfo/dkim-dev
>
I thought I'd let you know that our reflector now does DKIM verification.
The update was actually done quite a while back, but we didn't make an
announcement, so...
.. Juan
Subject: Re: [dkim-testers] DKIM signature with QMAIL MTA
>>>> "Carlos Garcia Test" <carlos@test.f-integra.org> 2/7/07 3:09 AM >>> >Hello, > >I am trying to integrate DKIM signature with QMAIL MTA. I canīt belive that DKIM is integrated with sendmail, postfix and other and not with QMAIL. > >I use dkimproy (dkimproxyout.pl) and it hardly works... The email is signed but in the test it appears this: > >DKIM-Status: Canonicalization type nowsp is no longer valid (This signature appears to be from an older draft of the standard) > >DKIMPROXY uses DKIM version draft-01 > >Can anybody help me? > >Thanks and sorry for my bad english.
In this case, you are using dkimproxy with the nowsp canonicalization, which apparently is not supported by the testing service you're using. You should change your dkimproxy startup file to specify the --method=relaxed argument.
E.g. dkimproxy.out --method=relaxed ....
Jason
No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.29/673 - Release Date: 06/02/2007
>>>> "Carlos Garcia Test" <carlos@...> 2/7/07 3:09 AM >>>
>Hello,
>
>I am trying to integrate DKIM signature with QMAIL MTA. I canīt belive that
DKIM is integrated with sendmail, postfix and other and not with QMAIL.
>
>I use dkimproy (dkimproxyout.pl) and it hardly works... The email is signed but
in the test it appears this:
>
>DKIM-Status: Canonicalization type nowsp is no longer valid (This signature
appears to be from an older draft of the standard)
>
>DKIMPROXY uses DKIM version draft-01
>
>Can anybody help me?
>
>Thanks and sorry for my bad english.
Questions about dkimproxy should be sent to me directly (jason@...
or jlong@...).
In this case, you are using dkimproxy with the nowsp canonicalization,
which apparently is not supported by the testing service you're using.
You should change your dkimproxy startup file to specify the
--method=relaxed argument.
E.g.
dkimproxy.out --method=relaxed ....
Jason
I am trying to integrate DKIM signature with QMAIL MTA. I canīt belive that DKIM is integrated with sendmail, postfix and other and not with QMAIL.
I use dkimproy (dkimproxyout.pl) and it hardly works... The email is signed but in the test it appears this:
DKIM-Status: Canonicalization type nowsp is no longer valid (This signature appears to be from an older draft of the standard)
DKIMPROXY uses DKIM version draft-01
Can anybody help me?
Thanks and sorry for my bad english.
This is the test email:
MAIL FROM: carlos@... PRA: carlos@... SPF-Record-Classic: v=spf1 ip4:213.201.101.250 -all SPF-Record-MFROM Scope: v=spf1 ip4:213.201.101.250 -all SPF-Record-PRA Scope: v=spf1 ip4:213.201.101.250 -all SPF-Method Result: pass(test.f-integra.org: domain of test.f-integra.org designates 213.201.101.250 as permitted sender) SenderID-MFROM-Method Result: pass(test.f-integra.org: domain of test.f-integra.org designates 213.201.101.250 as permitted sender) SenderID-PRA-Method Result: pass(test.f-integra.org: domain of test.f-integra.org designates 213.201.101.250 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: good DKIM-Status: Canonicalization type nowsp is no longer valid (This signature appears to be from an older draft of the standard) Return-Path: carlos@... Received: from 213.201.101.250 by 69.56.15.194 for <mvp7hbH@...>; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 09:08:46 -0600 Received: (qmail 2987 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2007 15:08:39 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=test.f-integra.org; b=fNz5qzO0YwOCrGzvyljrPv3jnmvT8rcdSTfyn38MW6qswmJHgk0pE22rxYad2gWR4uQFLeFcUYA/6mc4nwsm2YVDizCbiZ4TPv1158kCY0AN7XA48qnWVUUQV6XT9fZM ; Received: from unknown (HELO Baco) (192.168.0.13) by servermail with SMTP; 5 Feb 2007 15:08:39 -0000 DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nowsp; d=test.f-integra.org; h=message-id:reply-to:from:to:subject:date:organization:mime-version:content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; q=dns; s=default; bh=n6E6gYUVA+mRTwkK8R5P910jzzg=; b=T7gk9t0tt8gl7VHdt/KHGhR3UenCI6WHJ8Vj44KesdiyhlEyXy6sfhkNKaae6RawyPUcp+zmrHd4ee3ha9rJQhs09r1Q4o5DjjRzdVPEzJrxWfZc6WVfd8uJQ3DG0Sxo
Message-ID: <008001c74937$8817d280$0900a8c0@...> Reply-To: "Carlos Garcia Test" <carlos@...> From: "Carlos Garcia Test" <carlos@...> To: <mvp7hbH@...> Subject: Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 16:08:45 +0100 Organization: Carlos MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_007D_01C7493F.E9C6DDC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028
I'm still traveling atm but when I return I'll be happy to help track this down.
In the meanwhile i'm cc'ing somebody at our HQ in case they can get to it faster
than me.
Arvel
Alt-N
-----Original Message-----
From: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" <danm@...>
To: dkim-testers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 6/9/06 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: [dkim-testers] Test Results for various reflectors
On Fri, 9 Jun 2006, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote:
Okay,
It would appear that I'm now speaking DKIM to all the reflectors out there
that I previously listed, which is cool. Admittedly, a portion of the
issue was that I had formatted my key DNS entry slightly wrong.
One minor issue remains -- if the person who runs the altn responder could
contact me off-list, I'm still seeing a domainkeys fail there. (I also
suppose the next step now is to shake down my domainkeys setup by finding
more testers/autoresponders related to that.)
From: dkim-testers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dkim-testers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Wishneusky Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 6:28 AM To: dkim-testers@yahoogroups.com Subject: [dkim-testers] Differences between DK and DKIM
Hello,
I'm testing DK for my company's outgoing e-mail and was wondering about DKIM. I know the two are similar, if not the same, and was wondering if I should be focusing on DK or DKIM? Should we wait on DKIM after the IETF WG gets everything done?
On Fri, 9 Jun 2006, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote:
Okay,
It would appear that I'm now speaking DKIM to all the reflectors out there
that I previously listed, which is cool. Admittedly, a portion of the
issue was that I had formatted my key DNS entry slightly wrong.
One minor issue remains -- if the person who runs the altn responder could
contact me off-list, I'm still seeing a domainkeys fail there. (I also
suppose the next step now is to shake down my domainkeys setup by finding
more testers/autoresponders related to that.)
-Dan
> On Fri, 9 Jun 2006, Jason Long wrote:
>
>> Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote:
>>> Reposted to the list, I just realized I just responded only to Nate...
>>>
>>> Okay. My results for every reflector listed on testing.dkim.org (with
>>> every possible signing mode) are here (and they're DISMAL):
>>>
>>> http://www.gushi.org/dkim-results.
>
> the . is not part fo the url.
>
> -Dan
>
>>>
>>>
>> This URL gives me 404 Not Found.
>>
>>
>>> Interesting notes:
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I have a reflector at test@..., if you want to add
>> that to your list. It implements ietf-base-01.
>>
>>> * Is there code out there to allow one to run their own testing reflector?
If
>>> so, I'd like to run one myself.
>>>
>>>
>> The source code for my reflector is included in the dkimproxy package,
>> found at http://jason.long.name/dkimproxy. If you're interested in using
>> it, let me know; I'll write up a short Howto for using it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jason
>>
>>
>
> --
>
> "It's buttery kettle ASS corn!"
>
> -Dan Mahoney, Ezzi Computers,
> 10/22/03, 2AM
>
> --------Dan Mahoney--------
> Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek
> Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC
> ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM
> Site: http://www.gushi.org
> ---------------------------
>
>
--
Hate fedora with a white hot burning passion right now though ... damn thing is
Linux-XP(tm)
-Bill Nolan
2/24/04
--------Dan Mahoney--------
Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek
Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC
ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM
Site: http://www.gushi.org
---------------------------
On Fri, 9 Jun 2006, Jason Long wrote:
> Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote:
>> Reposted to the list, I just realized I just responded only to Nate...
>>
>> Okay. My results for every reflector listed on testing.dkim.org (with
>> every possible signing mode) are here (and they're DISMAL):
>>
>> http://www.gushi.org/dkim-results.
the . is not part fo the url.
-Dan
>>
>>
> This URL gives me 404 Not Found.
>
>
>> Interesting notes:
>>
>>
>
> I have a reflector at test@..., if you want to add
> that to your list. It implements ietf-base-01.
>
>> * Is there code out there to allow one to run their own testing reflector? If
>> so, I'd like to run one myself.
>>
>>
> The source code for my reflector is included in the dkimproxy package,
> found at http://jason.long.name/dkimproxy. If you're interested in using
> it, let me know; I'll write up a short Howto for using it.
>
>
>
> Jason
>
>
--
"It's buttery kettle ASS corn!"
-Dan Mahoney, Ezzi Computers,
10/22/03, 2AM
--------Dan Mahoney--------
Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek
Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC
ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM
Site: http://www.gushi.org
---------------------------
Hello,
I'm testing DK for my company's outgoing e-mail and was wondering
about DKIM. I know the two are similar, if not the same, and was
wondering if I should be focusing on DK or DKIM? Should we wait on
DKIM after the IETF WG gets everything done?
Mark
Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote:
> Reposted to the list, I just realized I just responded only to Nate...
>
> Okay. My results for every reflector listed on testing.dkim.org (with
> every possible signing mode) are here (and they're DISMAL):
>
> http://www.gushi.org/dkim-results.
>
>
This URL gives me 404 Not Found.
> Interesting notes:
>
>
I have a reflector at test@..., if you want to add
that to your list. It implements ietf-base-01.
> * Is there code out there to allow one to run their own testing reflector? If
> so, I'd like to run one myself.
>
>
The source code for my reflector is included in the dkimproxy package,
found at http://jason.long.name/dkimproxy. If you're interested in using
it, let me know; I'll write up a short Howto for using it.
Jason
Reposted to the list, I just realized I just responded only to Nate...
Okay. My results for every reflector listed on testing.dkim.org (with
every possible signing mode) are here (and they're DISMAL):
http://www.gushi.org/dkim-results.
Interesting notes:
blackops.org -- doesn't even seem to verify DKIM or DK, just SPF/Sender-ID.
Pointless.
dk.elandsys.com -- in most results simply tells me what my policies in
published DNS are, but says the DKIM test is "not available".
Mostly Pointless.
dkim.org -- seems to only work with allman-base-00, everything else returns a
base64 error. Also seems to be running a fairly old sendmail which wouldn't
have the right libmilter to support newer versions of dkim-filter.
sendmail.net -- isn't even answering me when I send with ietf-base-00, and on
the others, not one has triggered a domainkeys response.
altn.com -- sees my DKIM passing, but my domainkeys FAILING where everything
else passes. If this is one of the "testing" sites this makes me feel FAR less
good about even implementing DOMAINKEYS, since four other sites can verify me
and be fine and one of the TESTING SITES is broken. THIS IS BAD. In a
real-world situation this would REJECT MAIL. Their MTA (MDaemon) seems to be
at issue here.
Considerations:
* I signed using my address danm@... -- if anyone thinks it would
be any different using gushi@... (which also has domainkeys and a policy)
let me know.
* I for a moment considered re-running these tests with dk-milter completely
disabled and only using dkim-milter, but decided against it as this is a
real-world test, and the idea should be to embrace as many possible
non-competing methods as possible, with PREFERNCE for the ability to continue
to use SUPPORTED ones while the DRAFT ones work the kinks out.
* dkim.org mentions a mailing list on yahoogroups that hasn't seen a post since
last november, and which still has not approved me for posting access.
* I am running the latest versions of all milters (dk, dkim, sid) from
sourceforge. My arguments for dkim-filter are mentioned in the methods.txt
file in each example.
* After my first try I kicked over to putting the domainkeys milter FIRST in
sendmail.cf, because I noted that this is how sendmail.net does it, and I'd
pretty much consider them an example to work from.
* The sendmail milter can sign with three different modes, ietf-base-00,
ietf-base-01, and allman-base-00. http://testing.dkim.org/reflector.html
mentions:
allman-01
allman-00
draft-allman-01
draft allman-00
(they mention it with and without the word "draft", I am not sure if that's
significant)
In any case, no detail is mentioned about how these differ, unless I feel like
reading the drafts (and no links are provided, even so it would be a TEDIOUS
read).
(the index page stated that that site may be out of date, I'm ccing the
webmaster on this in case he'd like to remove these links).
According to http://testing.dkim.org/reflector.html some of these milters test
on allman-01, which isn't even an option with dkim-milter (interesting because
AFAIK if it's being supported by sendmail.net, it should conceivably be in the
milter that THEY WROTE).
* Per nate's suggestion I've added -H to dk-filter's options -- it doesn't
seem to have helped the incidence of failures.
* Is there code out there to allow one to run their own testing reflector? If
so, I'd like to run one myself.
* Can anyone post contact addresses for issues with these reflectors?
Ideally we need more info, such as: what testing method they're using,
contact address, what standards they support.
Clearly if all these reflectors are failing with the DEFAULT SIGNING MODE
of dkim-milter this represents an issue.
-Dan Mahoney
--------Dan Mahoney--------
Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek
Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC
ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM
Site: http://www.gushi.org
---------------------------
--- In dkim-testers@yahoogroups.com, Jason Long <jason@l...> wrote:
>
> ajay_varghese wrote:
>
> >Hi Everyone,
> >As the current draft of DKIM specify the new algorithm "relaxed" for
> >canonicalization. I am just curious to know the listed DKIM reflector
> >(http://testing.dkim.org/reflector.html) can handle this algorithm or
> >anyone knows a reflector which can handle.
> >Thanks,
> >
> >-Ajay
> >
> >
>
> You're in luck. This was recently discussed on the dkim-dev list. Try
>
> test@d...
>
> and
>
> dkim-test@a...
>
>
> Jason
>
Awesome and thank you, both the reflectors were helpful in handling
the new "relaxed" algorithm. I like the canonicalized version of the
message attached to the auto-reply from dkimtest.jason.long.name, very
much helpful in correcting the algorithm.
-Ajay
ajay_varghese wrote:
>Hi Everyone,
>As the current draft of DKIM specify the new algorithm "relaxed" for
>canonicalization. I am just curious to know the listed DKIM reflector
>(http://testing.dkim.org/reflector.html) can handle this algorithm or
>anyone knows a reflector which can handle.
>Thanks,
>
>-Ajay
>
>
You're in luck. This was recently discussed on the dkim-dev list. Try
test@...
and
dkim-test@...
Jason
Hi Everyone,
As the current draft of DKIM specify the new algorithm "relaxed" for
canonicalization. I am just curious to know the listed DKIM reflector
(http://testing.dkim.org/reflector.html) can handle this algorithm or
anyone knows a reflector which can handle.
Thanks,
-Ajay
-----Original Message-----
From: On Behalf Of Murray S. Kucherawy
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 10:52 AM
To:
Subject: From dk-milter to dkim-milter (fwd)
Public recognition of the easy transition from DK to DKIM.
Kudos, gentlemen.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 07:44:19 -0700
From: SM <sm@...>
Reply-To: dkim-milter-discuss@...
To: dkim-milter-discuss@...
Cc: dk-milter-discuss@...
Subject: [dkim-milter-discuss] From dk-milter to dkim-milter
Hello,
For those of you doing the transition from dk-milter to dkim-milter, the
transition is straight-forward. dkim-milter will work with the public
and private keys generated for DomainKeys. Compile the dkim-milter and
run it with the same parameters as dk-milter.
There is a How-to at
http://www.elandsys.com/resources/sendmail/dkim.html You can test DKIM
by sending an email to autorespond+dkim@....
Regards,
-sm
[...]
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Hi all, and thanks to those who set up this discussion list! I'm relatively new
to DKIM, but I think the idea is very promising.
I posted this topic to the dkim-milter list, but I thought posting it here might
be a good thing to do. I hope it's appropriate for this list...
I've been doing some testing dkim-milter in various scenarios
(including sending directly and sending through mailing lists), and I
wanted to post my results for discussion. I run Mailman mailing lists
on two different servers, so I am able to test both with and without my
patch that removes previous signatures. I also patched my copy of
dkim-milter to always include "Authentication-Results:" so I can see the
result, even if the result is "no signature". I am not sure if these
are implementation issues or specification issues.
---------
Scenario #1: No _policy published and no sig
Authentication-Results: shadow.wildlava.net header.unknown=unknown;
dkim=fail (no signature)
In this case, I sent mail to myself from a domain that does not do DKIM
at all. There is no _policy published, and there is no signature in the
header. Forcing the results to appear, I get the above, indicating a
failure with no signature, and I assume header is "unknown" because
there is no sig). This seems wrong to me - if the domain does not
publish a _policy, the verifier should not expect a signature, and
therefore it should not "fail." It could report that it saw no sig, but
that none was expected either. I would think retults would be neutral
at worst, but maybe even something different, like "no result" to say
that it simply has no information.
----------
Scenario #2: A _policy published ("o=~all") but no sig
Authentication-Results: shadow.wildlava.net header.unknown=unknown;
dkim=fail (no signature)
This is the same result as #1, so I assume whether the _policy is
published does not make a difference in this implementation. I do
expect that it would complain about no signature, but getting a "fail"
is strange, since with this policy ("~all"), a bad signature gets a
"neutral" in this implementation.
-----------
Scenario #3: A _policy published ("o=~all") with valid sig
Authentication-Results: shadow.wildlava.net header.From=joe@...;
dkim=pass
This is the expected result.
-----------
Scenario #4: Through Mailman, old sig removed
Authentication-Results: shadow.wildlava.net
header.Sender=test-bounces@...; dkim=pass
This is the expected result, and the header shows the sender instead of
the from, which makes sense, since the "From" signature was removed by
[patched] Mailman.
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Scenario #5: Through Mailman, old sig not removed
Authentication-Results: shadow.wildlava.net header.From=joe@...;
dkim=neutral (verification failed)
This is a strange one, since the verifier went ahead and used the "From"
signature, even though there is now a "Sender" line in the header. And
no report was made regarding the fact that a signature using the
"Sender" was not found. The receiver only knows now that the
verification failed. So I think it's misleading, since this case is
more of a missing signature case (not that it should be treated any more
leniently, but the receiver should probably know that this is a mail
list resend failing the "From" check only, otherwise, if the "From"
domain changes it's policy to "-all", mail could get tossed). I can
imagine cases in which the domain would want to set to "-all" (if it
signs all outgoing email) without knowing that mailing lists will be
basically useless for any users on the domain (since there is no control
over whether all mail lists one desires to use start using DKIM, etc.).
If DKIM becomes adopted, I know I'd want my domain to be able to use
"-all" - otherwise the strength of DKIM is diminished. But if I then
could never use a mailing list, that would be a problem, so no one but
banks or other such entities would ever be able to use the strength of DKIM.
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I cannot easily test the multiple signature case through mail lists
(i.e. if a "Sender:" line appears and gets signed by the mail list
server), since dkim-milter will not add a new sig to an email that
already has one, even if there is now a new "Sender:" line. And I would
expect to see, perhaps, both results - the one for the "From" case and
the one for the "Sender" case - it could then decide what to do based on
that, since it has the full info. Of course, the results of a missing
sig for From or Sender should probably include whether or not there was
a _policy and what that policy was.
-Joe
Thanks, I was able to send my message to all the reflectors you specified. Waiting for the response from the .
-Ajay
-----Original Message----- From: dkim-testers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dkim-testers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gaurav Kapoor Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 11:26 AM To: dkim-testers@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [dkim-testers] Any Reflector
Hi Ajay,
We have been successfully using Alt-N's reflector: dkim-test@... <mailto:dkim-test@...>
You may also want to try the following: dkim-test@... <mailto:dkim-test@...> autorespond+dkim@... <mailto:autorespond+dkim@...> dktest@... <mailto:dktest@...> sa-test@... <mailto:sa-test@...>
Gaurav
ajay_varghese wrote:
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