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Editor's Note (Re: Class T amp)

Dear Andy, Kharma et al:

Of course I like the talk about the CHEAP T-amp. As a matter of fact,
I had to see the hype, so I got one months ago thru group order of
Wesley. Have not picked up yet.

I bought the cheapest one because I believe even the cheapest can give
me the BOTTOM LINE. I am not interested in turning it into superamp,
which I doubt can happen without draculian effort. One thing, I
SERIOUSLY doubt even at its best it can rival a good SET amp.

Reading some of the discussions I believe the discrepancy in
perception stems from personal differences as well as SETUP, which is
of paramount importance. The speakers better be efficient, and many
so-called high-efficiency speakers (like "TAD VSM300") are really not.
In your case, the Bastanis has an active woofer, so that's a help, and
you won't notice the bass deficiency so much. The situation is
similar to the matching of SET amps and speakers. Notice the Hong Kong
Tube audio idiots who write profusely that SET amps are not as good as
PP amps, judged all by a pair of LS3/5a. You just cannot stop
assxxxxs.

The opinions seems to hint at whether the listener tolerates "clean
notes" with less decay. This is nothing new, even among high-priced ss
stuff. Some expensive ss stuff, like Gryphon, seem to have short decay
to me and that bothers me personally. Another is perception of "air".
Ditto Gryphon, regarded by ss users as "tube-like", has little air to
me. Another example is speakers. Take JM Lab Utopia, whether you
really like it will depend not a little on the slightly short decay,
hence "clean" sound. Digitals too, needless to say. This is perosnal.
For me, even CHEAP tube will HAVE to have excellent decay and bags of
air. "Refinement" has to come later.

Yes, cheap can be good, but HOW cheap, and HOW good? Hmm...The search
is the fun part though. Just do not expect the "ultimate".

Recently at a bookfair for HK $2 per copy I bought some Chinese
hifi magazines and one of them is excellent. I cannot post the Chinese
name but they have a link, but BE CAREFUL as it seems full of
dangerous pop-up's:

www.avfline.com

This magazine has quality writing, but what really caught my eyes was
a review of SUPRAVOX FR-5 floorstanding speakers. It uses the 135LB
units, has a front port as well as a back one, claiming 92 db.I
searched the web but could not find finished Supravox speakers. Just a
Chinese thing? If any of you is using Supravox fullranges, please post
and let me know what you think. These I believe are reasonably priced
in China and I'd be most interested in trying a pair out.

Also, thanks to Thomas' diyaudiocraft I got a little toy to try out.
It is DIYZONE's AK4395 DAC:

http://diyzone.net/article.php?sid=366

At a hifi meet, the rudimentary version gave a good account of itself
against a mainland PCM63 DAC as well as the USD 10k Remiyo
upsampling CDP. I took it home but has not auditioned it yet. Maybe
more later.

It is indeed amazing computer use and audio use are merging.

These days actually I play with a lot of new things, but I find time
limited to post serious reviews, which is my wont. I am thinking of
posting frequent short hifi notes on whatever I envounter. What do
people think?

This new Yahoo format is disgusting and discouraging.








--- In doctorjohn_CheapTubeAudio@yahoogroups.com, "andy2667" <andy
2667@s...> wrote:
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> Hello DocJohn & Others,
>
> It seems that this forum is not as active as years ago. My
discussion
> on Class-T may a little bit ouside Topic.Just want to share my
> experience in Class-T amp.
>







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Hello DocJohn & Others, It seems that this forum is not as active as years ago. My discussion on Class-T may a little bit ouside Topic.Just want to share my ...
andy2667
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Nov 25, 2005
4:51 pm

hi Andy, Well the world will progress and no doubt one day all the source will be digital, including the amp as well. I am watching the release of those 1 chip...
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milkiway2001
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Nov 25, 2005
5:19 pm

Hello Andy, Welcome to the club. I got a Charlize ~ 6 weeks ago and have had to rethink my thinking. Saying the Charlize is good would be a understatment, it...
Andrew Brandon
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Nov 25, 2005
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Hi guys What speakers are you using? My experience with modded Teac ( hovland coupling caps and connectors ) are not that great. Neither with OB design with...
Janina Klamecki
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Nov 25, 2005
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I use 208 Sigmas' (the original, not the EZ or whatever the newer one is called) in Jerico horns, and have others such as Swan D101a with FE108EZ, Swan D168 ...
Andrew Brandon
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Nov 25, 2005
9:03 pm

Hi Andrew You have lots of amps indeed. No, I did not hear Charlize .I thought all T-amps after mods sound close or have similar sonic signature and I was not...
Janina Klamecki
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Nov 25, 2005
9:24 pm

Call Yeo at diyparadise, Tell him I sent you (not that he knows who I am):-) Order one and try it. Tell us what you think, good or bad. Do not "mod" it or...
Andrew Brandon
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Nov 25, 2005
9:55 pm

Hi all, Glad to know that there are other people love the Charlize (a class-T amp) too. 1. Comparison of Charize to Tube. I have not used lots of tube amp. I...
andy2667
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Nov 26, 2005
1:42 pm

hi Andy, I wanted to use PC as digital storage as well, what is the important in using EAC to rop the CD instead of just copying the CD to the disk directly? ...
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milkiway2001
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Nov 26, 2005
7:31 pm

Hi William, EAC is a good ripping software. It can be set to rip exact copy/min. error copy of audio files. You can also use other software but you need to set...
andy2667
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Nov 27, 2005
8:09 am

hi Andy, Tks for the kind lead! Will read them and see how I sud do it! Tks and best rgds William Lee ... From: "andy2667" <andy2667@...> To:...
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milkiway2001
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Nov 27, 2005
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Hey Andy...did you ever fix your Cyber 30? I am using mine in my office on headphones of course.... ... From: doctorjohn_CheapTubeAudio@yahoogroups.com...
Lee, Kwing Y (Kwing)
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Nov 28, 2005
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Hi Kwing, Have not yet fix it. The DRD300B is so much better than the cyber 30 that I have no urgency to fix it. I seldom listen to headphone now. Maybe, I do...
andy2667
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Nov 29, 2005
3:02 pm

Howdy Andy, I also tried the T-amp, albit the Sonic Impact varity, modded it,and now it is in another avtar. I was also very impressed with the sound the first...
karma barfungpa
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Nov 28, 2005
3:03 pm

Hi Top, Not heard the SI amp. The Charlize is said to be much better than the SI. FYI, the midrange of the Charlize is on the thick side compared with my DRD...
andy2667
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Nov 29, 2005
3:02 pm

hi Andy, Ok I got the Charlize today. Hooked up to a 9V simple adapter, quite a big one non switching type, adde3d a 1500 uf cap to the PS, soldered a pair of ...
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milkiway2001
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Nov 30, 2005
1:06 pm

Hello Thomas, Welcome to the Charlize user group. Let the Charlize to run in 50~100hrs and the sound will improve a lot. However, you need to have high...
andy2667
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Nov 30, 2005
3:39 pm

One more point. The Chartlize and some Class T amp give a lod start up POP for some high efficiency speakers when switched on. This is surely not a good thing....
andy2667
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Nov 30, 2005
3:44 pm

Dear Andy, Kharma et al: Of course I like the talk about the CHEAP T-amp. As a matter of fact, I had to see the hype, so I got one months ago thru group order...
doclowther
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Dec 1, 2005
5:12 am

Hi Doctorjohn, Which T-amp have you ordered? The one I am using is Charlize from diyparadise. It is said to be much better than the well-talked Sonic Impact...
andy2667
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Dec 2, 2005
1:22 pm

hi Andy and all, The Charlise did improved over time, very easy on the ears. Yeo suggested using 12V instead, I did, but with Switching power supply, the sound...
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milkiway2001
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Dec 1, 2005
8:13 am

Hi William, The Charlize draw less tha 1Amp. A simple calculation indicate that a 9AH SLA battery could last for 10~20 hours. You may consider a larger battery...
andy2667
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Dec 2, 2005
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