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[doctorjohn_CheapTubeAudio]Re: Class T amp

Hi William,

The Charlize draw less tha 1Amp. A simple calculation indicate that a
9AH SLA battery could last for 10~20 hours. You may consider a larger
battery it to last longer. However, you may charge it every time after
listening. You may consider buy a better charger which can be
connected to the battery permanently.

Andy

--- In doctorjohn_CheapTubeAudio@yahoogroups.com, "NPM" <npm98@p...>
wrote:
>
> hi Andy and all,
>
> The Charlise did improved over time, very easy on the ears. Yeo
suggested
> using 12V instead, I did, but with Switching power supply, the sound
makes
> me a bit tense, though its a bigger sound.
> How long will a 12V battery last with one charging?
>
> On SET I do thing it may sound purer, but the demand on the OT and
PS is
> much more. So PP tend to sound better as most SET amps are not that
well
> made. I do find that if we make the amp simpler, actually PP could
sound
> very similar to SET, yet with the benefit of lower noise and more power.
> For example using paraphase, the front tube drive the output direct,
while
> only the opposite phase output tube will go thru phase conversion.
> Anyway, I have a Gold Baile 2A3C small SET amp with ample power. After
> tweaking a bit such as raising the current of the driver tubes,
adding some
> caps here and there, the sound is quite nice though still a trace of
hum.
> The output power is quite big surprisingly... I think it must be in the
> region of 5 watts as it could drive my Rega effortlessly. Must try
on my SMG
> to see how.
>
> On the Gryphon amp, I used to own the big stereo power amp with 3
step adj
> bias. Well, I agree that it does not have air. It is dark sounding
with no
> live. I could not listen for too long else I would feel depressed.
the amp
> is hot, and for the 1 year I owned it, 8 months was with the agent for
> servicing. Can't respect those magazine writers who said it was a
great amp!
> Same dark sound with the pre amp. Worst the volume control does not
even
> have the numeric engraved correctly! What a joke. When I solder
wires to
> connect the volume pot directly to the gain stage instead of going thru
> circuit board traces that is half the width of the pre amp, I got
more air
> and dynamics and felt like a champion. But soon a friend brought in
Classe
> DR-6 with CA 400 power amp that sounded much better then the Gryphon in
> every respect....
> but the story of the SS amp is always similar, you think you found some
> thing nicer, it will only stay for not more then 3 months until you
hated
> the sound! That's why I only listen to tubes for the last 7 years.
>
> best rgds
>
> William Lee
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "doclowther" <doclowther@y...>
> To: <doctorjohn_CheapTubeAudio@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 1:10 PM
> Subject: [doctorjohn_CheapTubeAudio] Editor's Note (Re: Class T amp)
>
>
> > Dear Andy, Kharma et al:
> >
> > Of course I like the talk about the CHEAP T-amp. As a matter of fact,
> > I had to see the hype, so I got one months ago thru group order of
> > Wesley. Have not picked up yet.
> >
> > I bought the cheapest one because I believe even the cheapest can give
> > me the BOTTOM LINE. I am not interested in turning it into superamp,
> > which I doubt can happen without draculian effort. One thing, I
> > SERIOUSLY doubt even at its best it can rival a good SET amp.
> >
> > Reading some of the discussions I believe the discrepancy in
> > perception stems from personal differences as well as SETUP, which is
> > of paramount importance. The speakers better be efficient, and many
> > so-called high-efficiency speakers (like "TAD VSM300") are really not.
> > In your case, the Bastanis has an active woofer, so that's a help, and
> > you won't notice the bass deficiency so much. The situation is
> > similar to the matching of SET amps and speakers. Notice the Hong Kong
> > Tube audio idiots who write profusely that SET amps are not as good as
> > PP amps, judged all by a pair of LS3/5a. You just cannot stop
> > assxxxxs.
> >
> > The opinions seems to hint at whether the listener tolerates "clean
> > notes" with less decay. This is nothing new, even among high-priced ss
> > stuff. Some expensive ss stuff, like Gryphon, seem to have short decay
> > to me and that bothers me personally. Another is perception of "air".
> > Ditto Gryphon, regarded by ss users as "tube-like", has little air to
> > me. Another example is speakers. Take JM Lab Utopia, whether you
> > really like it will depend not a little on the slightly short decay,
> > hence "clean" sound. Digitals too, needless to say. This is perosnal.
> > For me, even CHEAP tube will HAVE to have excellent decay and bags of
> > air. "Refinement" has to come later.
> >
> > Yes, cheap can be good, but HOW cheap, and HOW good? Hmm...The search
> > is the fun part though. Just do not expect the "ultimate".
> >
>







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Nov 25, 2005
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hi Andy, Well the world will progress and no doubt one day all the source will be digital, including the amp as well. I am watching the release of those 1 chip...
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Nov 25, 2005
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Hello Andy, Welcome to the club. I got a Charlize ~ 6 weeks ago and have had to rethink my thinking. Saying the Charlize is good would be a understatment, it...
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Nov 25, 2005
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Hi guys What speakers are you using? My experience with modded Teac ( hovland coupling caps and connectors ) are not that great. Neither with OB design with...
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I use 208 Sigmas' (the original, not the EZ or whatever the newer one is called) in Jerico horns, and have others such as Swan D101a with FE108EZ, Swan D168 ...
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Nov 25, 2005
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Hi Andrew You have lots of amps indeed. No, I did not hear Charlize .I thought all T-amps after mods sound close or have similar sonic signature and I was not...
Janina Klamecki
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Call Yeo at diyparadise, Tell him I sent you (not that he knows who I am):-) Order one and try it. Tell us what you think, good or bad. Do not "mod" it or...
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Nov 25, 2005
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Hi all, Glad to know that there are other people love the Charlize (a class-T amp) too. 1. Comparison of Charize to Tube. I have not used lots of tube amp. I...
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hi Andy, I wanted to use PC as digital storage as well, what is the important in using EAC to rop the CD instead of just copying the CD to the disk directly? ...
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Hi William, EAC is a good ripping software. It can be set to rip exact copy/min. error copy of audio files. You can also use other software but you need to set...
andy2667
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Nov 27, 2005
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hi Andy, Tks for the kind lead! Will read them and see how I sud do it! Tks and best rgds William Lee ... From: "andy2667" <andy2667@...> To:...
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Hey Andy...did you ever fix your Cyber 30? I am using mine in my office on headphones of course.... ... From: doctorjohn_CheapTubeAudio@yahoogroups.com...
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Nov 28, 2005
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Hi Kwing, Have not yet fix it. The DRD300B is so much better than the cyber 30 that I have no urgency to fix it. I seldom listen to headphone now. Maybe, I do...
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Nov 29, 2005
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Howdy Andy, I also tried the T-amp, albit the Sonic Impact varity, modded it,and now it is in another avtar. I was also very impressed with the sound the first...
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Nov 28, 2005
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Hi Top, Not heard the SI amp. The Charlize is said to be much better than the SI. FYI, the midrange of the Charlize is on the thick side compared with my DRD...
andy2667
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Nov 29, 2005
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hi Andy, Ok I got the Charlize today. Hooked up to a 9V simple adapter, quite a big one non switching type, adde3d a 1500 uf cap to the PS, soldered a pair of ...
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Nov 30, 2005
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Hello Thomas, Welcome to the Charlize user group. Let the Charlize to run in 50~100hrs and the sound will improve a lot. However, you need to have high...
andy2667
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Nov 30, 2005
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One more point. The Chartlize and some Class T amp give a lod start up POP for some high efficiency speakers when switched on. This is surely not a good thing....
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Nov 30, 2005
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Dear Andy, Kharma et al: Of course I like the talk about the CHEAP T-amp. As a matter of fact, I had to see the hype, so I got one months ago thru group order...
doclowther
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Dec 1, 2005
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Hi Doctorjohn, Which T-amp have you ordered? The one I am using is Charlize from diyparadise. It is said to be much better than the well-talked Sonic Impact...
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Dec 2, 2005
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hi Andy and all, The Charlise did improved over time, very easy on the ears. Yeo suggested using 12V instead, I did, but with Switching power supply, the sound...
NPM
milkiway2001
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Dec 1, 2005
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Hi William, The Charlize draw less tha 1Amp. A simple calculation indicate that a 9AH SLA battery could last for 10~20 hours. You may consider a larger battery...
andy2667
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Dec 2, 2005
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