Very interesting points, Chris. I'm sorry I've been so slow in responding. I got a little buried preparing for OOPSLA, etc. On reading your message, I realized...
This is a good topic for discussion. Brian actually brought this issue up with me and I asked him to repost it here because I'd like to hear what others have...
... This is a very good point, and a good example to make that point. You should include it in your book, because your book does not now make clearly the point...
Hmmm. I thought I had made the point in the Model-Driven Design pattern. I did talk about the problems of separate "analysis models". But maybe if I use this...
... When you made your point, I realized it was implicit in what you had said. However, even after having read your book twice, it was not obvious to me that...
Good news. The end is near. In a month or so, I'll be making a final draft and sending it off to the publisher. This means that not everything I might like to...
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Brian Marick
marick@...
Nov 24, 2002 4:42 pm
At 9:48 PM +0000 11/16/02, Eric Evans wrote: (excerpted from below) ... Would this be something like what you mean? The average user would think of bookmarks...
I'm hoping the people here can help me brainstorm a name for this pattern, and I can get a feel for how different people react. This was previously called...
Hi, I wanted to comment on this section but was unable to access your website the other day. It may be due to where I am working. Can you confirm for me that...
The website is down today. I'm told it will be back up tonight. In the meantime, I put the pdf of the book in the "Files" section of this group. Sorry for the...
I like the name conceptual contours more then concept contouring granularity. Others I thought might apply: Conceptual form Conceptual shape Conceptual...
Domain driven design addresses the modeling/structuring of the "business object tier" of a system ... developing a deeper understand about the domain and...
I think this question implies that you are looking for a mechanistic solution. Why should either use cases or the domain model dominate? That is like asking...
Eric I enjoyed reading the draft of your book. I might disagree with a few points, but overall I think it is a valuable contribution to the field. I wonder if...
Richard, I read your book and found it fit well with work I was doing last fall (got the book at OOPSLA). We took a slightly different approach, but the goal...
I'm not working on a book or a Ph.D., so I'm not sure I can authoritatively join this thread, but I read both these books recently (concurrently at times) and...
I am aware of the Naked Objects framework, but don't know a lot about it. It is definitely an attempt to drive design from the domain. When I read about it, I...
... of ... Please do participate. I don't have a Ph.D. either. I think you are right: Naked Objects is an attempt at a concrete application of domain-driven...
I think the key to placing use cases within domain-driven design is the "ubiquitous language". The model is our developing understanding of the domain we're...
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Richard Pawson
rpawson@...
Jun 21, 2003 6:11 pm
... This is a common and very understandable reaction to the Naked Objects concept. To begin with it seems unlikely that all user actions would map onto...
Hi, I am a newbie to the world of domaindriven. I have come across a vendor statement to the effect that J2EE does not offer much support to the domain-centric...
I'm afraid that is a complicated question. I suppose the short answer is yes, domain-driven designs are done in J2EE, although it is a complicated framework,...
It is interesting. I like the emphasis on the model, and the attitude that you refuse to compensate for a weak model with a complicated application layer. That...
Hi, Panayotis. Thank you for posting these interesting questions. In future, I'd like to ask people to avoid MS Word documents, because they cause problems for...
Eric, I recently downloaded your book and have been reading through it as time permits. I am a newbie when it comes to OO*. From the books and articles that I...
Hi, Hemant. Thanks for the comments. I agree and disagree. True, refactoring domain models can be very expensive. But costs don't necessarily increase with...
