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2064 sobesoft Offline Send Email Apr 6, 2005
11:30 am
Lately in my domain model I have come across the question of where to place logic that deals with collections of entities. It seems I have several choices. ...
2065 Rex Madden
rexmadden Offline Send Email
Apr 6, 2005
2:45 pm
http://www.martinfowler.com/bliki/TypedCollection.html...
2066 Ramon Leon
gnaritas2002 Offline Send Email
Apr 6, 2005
5:08 pm
IMHO, collections are building blocks, generic building blocks; domain logic doesn't ever belong in them. If you have logic that deals with groups of...
2067 Rex Madden
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Apr 6, 2005
6:24 pm
I think Fowler was saying that he doesn't encourage strongly typed collections, but rather encapsulating them, which I agree with. Just to make sure we're all...
2068 David Foderick
sobesoft Offline Send Email
Apr 8, 2005
4:16 am
Hi Ramon, I would like to give a specific example. In my domain I have the need for tracking changes to a boolean flag. Instead of a simple boolean I have a...
2069 Eric Evans
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Apr 8, 2005
5:19 am
I think there could be value. But I'd dig a little deeper and try to come up with some concept that they are reflecting. The Fee collection with a total -- is...
2070 j2eeiscool Offline Send Email Apr 8, 2005
8:45 am
I don't have much to add to what has already been said. Only thing is that a Typed Collection of Entities with behavior looks like a Manager. I have always...
2071 Ramon Leon
gnaritas2002 Offline Send Email
Apr 8, 2005
4:52 pm
Eric's right, you need to dig deeper into the problem, the thing you're trying to model deserves a better name than AuditEventCollection. You probably already...
2072 David Foderick
sobesoft Offline Send Email
Apr 9, 2005
4:25 am
Ramon, Eric and others: Thanks for the reponses. I think the conversation so far and the switch to talking about specifics in my domain have helped me uncover...
2073 nickgieschen Offline Send Email Apr 10, 2005
7:19 am
I'm just trying to get my head around some of this. I'm using NHibernate in an ASP.NET application. Does this count as a type of repository? I have a facade...
2074 Shane Mingins
shanemingins Offline Send Email
Apr 10, 2005
9:52 am
... You may find this post from Udi helpful: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/domaindrivendesign/message/1874 Cheers Shane __________________________________ Do...
2075 anagnost68 Offline Send Email Apr 14, 2005
6:59 am
If I hand the Repository a query to fulfill on my behalf and that query is bound to some database tool (say Hibernate), isn't my Repository (and the rest of my...
2076 Shane Mingins
shanemingins Offline Send Email
Apr 14, 2005
10:18 am
... I would pass the Repository a data access object that knows how to handle the query. So my CustomerRepository depends on a CustomerDAO. The actual DAO it...
2077 Ramon Leon
gnaritas2002 Offline Send Email
Apr 14, 2005
5:22 pm
It's pretty easy to build a generic query layer. Queries are after all, just predicate expressions, in every language. No language owns and/or/not and "> <...
2078 anagnost68 Offline Send Email Apr 14, 2005
6:22 pm
... I don't think so. Considered in isolation, I think it's a non-trivial task. To make it worse somewhere I need to translate my generic query layer to my...
2079 Ramon Leon
gnaritas2002 Offline Send Email
Apr 14, 2005
7:36 pm
Queries are just trees of composed predicates, whether it's SQL, or XPath, or looping over an array in memory, they're all doing the same thing with just...
2080 Roni Burd
roniburd Offline Send Email
Apr 15, 2005
3:30 pm
While reading through DDD book again last night I wondered how to implement Application Services and Domain Services (as explained on chapter 5) in APS.NET...
2082 Jukka Lindström
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Apr 16, 2005
7:06 pm
Hello, I quite often run to the problem, where I have to manage several different type aggregate collections for a single domain entity. Suppose I have an...
2083 yahoogroups@...
jhrothjr Offline Send Email
Apr 16, 2005
8:22 pm
From: "Jukka Lindström" <jslindst.at.reaktor-i.com@...> To: "domaindrivendesign@yahoogroups.com" ...
2084 Eric Evans
ericevans0 Offline Send Email
Apr 16, 2005
9:36 pm
I agree with John's points, but let me express it a little differently. When I'm trying to decide whether to expose something or not, and this means a...
2085 Scott Bellware
sbellware Offline Send Email
Apr 17, 2005
1:24 am
I'm not quite sure if I've got my head around the idea that a Repository should express collection semantics. I get that a repository should be treated by its...
2086 Ron Jeffries
ronaldejeffries Offline Send Email
Apr 17, 2005
1:36 am
... How does it seem to you that it should work? Suppose the Repository couldn't do those things; how would they then be coded? Suppose it only dealt with...
2087 Scott Bellware
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Apr 17, 2005
3:18 am
... Without an indexer, I would just have methods like Save(), Update(), Delete(), etc (maybe a SaveOrUpdate() a la Hibernate). Ultimately, if I put an...
2088 Jukka Lindström
jukkalindstrom Offline Send Email
Apr 17, 2005
8:44 am
Brilliantly put Eric and John. I understand your points and after inspecting the current domain I think it conforms to your ideas. The issue I found smelly was...
2089 Ron Jeffries
ronaldejeffries Offline Send Email
Apr 17, 2005
9:01 am
... Yes ... but then where and how would the indexing capability be implemented? Don't we need it somewhere? ... It might be. I'm trying to figure out the...
2090 Scott Bellware
sbellware Offline Send Email
Apr 17, 2005
9:36 pm
... I'm programming a Repository for a User Entity. I'm using C#/.NET. The Repository uses a "strongly-typed" DataSet generated by Visual Studio as a cache....
2091 Ron Jeffries
ronaldejeffries Offline Send Email
Apr 18, 2005
8:39 am
... I'm with you on this. I guess my only hope is to find the time to build something, perhaps several different ways. At this moment, that feels painful to...
2092 devdiscuss Offline Send Email Apr 22, 2005
1:54 am
Just an API/aesthetics observation, but one argument against using an indexer to access datastore bound entities could be that it doesn't clearly communicate...
2093 Pavel Hruby
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Apr 22, 2005
7:21 pm
(apologies for multiple copies received) Call for Papers Views, Aspects and Roles - VAR '05 Workshop at ECOOP'05, July 25 2005, Glasgow. ...
2094 Scott Bellware
sbellware Offline Send Email
Apr 26, 2005
12:54 am
There are some interesting capabilities coming in .NET 2.0 with the addition of generics and anonymous delegates that make for some Specification-ish stuff. ...
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