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3044 Cristian Olaru
colaru22 Offline Send Email
Jan 2, 2006
10:19 pm
See this olso on my blog: http://jroller.com/page/olaru Domain Driven Design and enterprise applications. I was very confused after read mister Erik Evans...
3045 Scott Bellware
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Jan 2, 2006
10:58 pm
... What would happen if you move the service logic into the Value Object classes for services that pertain to specific Value Objects?...
3046 anagnost68 Offline Send Email Jan 3, 2006
4:40 pm
It seems as if XIC removes the duplicity problem (having domain behavior in two places: 1. orchestration and 2. within objects) by removing the domain...
3047 Matthew T. Adams
matthewadams Offline Send Email
Jan 3, 2006
5:27 pm
I suppose that you could think of it that way, but it doesn't have to be. XIC's service mapping is an integration technology within heterogeneous enterprise ...
3048 billhamaker Offline Send Email Jan 4, 2006
2:34 pm
I think enterprise applications as you have described them would be anti-DDD. So the question is whether enterprise applications really do have to be defined...
3049 Per Spilling
perspill Offline Send Email
Jan 5, 2006
11:55 am
Hi, DDD is easy to sell to architects and developers, but is more difficult to sell to business people (at least that's my experience so far). Does anyone on...
3050 Tomas Karlsson
marcellus874 Offline Send Email
Jan 5, 2006
1:03 pm
Hi, Business people should know about processes and information/resources - and the relation between them. (Otherwise they should do something else, like...
3051 yahoogroups@...
jhrothjr Offline Send Email
Jan 5, 2006
2:02 pm
From: "Per Spilling" <per.spilling.at.objectware.no@...> To: "domaindrivendesign@yahoogroups.com" ...
3052 Per Spilling
perspill Offline Send Email
Jan 5, 2006
2:05 pm
Well, it seems that business people find the Zachman Framework more interesting and useful than DDD from a business value perspective. I don't know much about...
3053 Anders Sveen
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Jan 5, 2006
2:30 pm
I'd be interested in that antidote too. :) Anders, ... Anders Rene Sveen +47-9244-3820 anders@......
3054 Tom Evans
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Jan 5, 2006
3:59 pm
To quote a famous trans-sovereign sweat shop: Just Do It! I have experience working with business SMEs (Subject Matter Experts) where over the course of a...
3055 Randy Stafford
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Jan 5, 2006
4:10 pm
With apologies to John, Per, and Tomas, I have to differ. I don't think business people necessarily care about testing frameworks, architecture frameworks, or...
3056 Torsten Beuck
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Jan 5, 2006
4:49 pm
When using an OR mapper (JDO, TopLink, Hibernate) for persisting domain objects a special problem arises if you like to serialize the domain object. It's in...
3057 yahoogroups@...
jhrothjr Offline Send Email
Jan 5, 2006
5:39 pm
From: "Randy Stafford" <randy.stafford.at.oracle.com@...> To: "domaindrivendesign@yahoogroups.com" ...
3058 Scott Bellware
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Jan 5, 2006
6:02 pm
... IMO, the value of DDD to business people rests in the emergence and reinforcement of the Ubiquitous Language on the development team, and the direct...
3059 Matthew T. Adams
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Jan 5, 2006
6:41 pm
One solution to your problem is handled by JDO 2.0 fetch groups. You identify the fields that belong to a particular fetch group, optionally including ...
3060 Matthew T. Adams
matthewadams Offline Send Email
Jan 5, 2006
6:59 pm
... [snip] ... Amen, Scott. I have seen this time and time again. Once developers and business people begin focusing on using the UL (Ubiquitous Language),...
3061 Johannes Brodwall
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Jan 5, 2006
7:00 pm
... If I understand you correctly, it does not restrain the domain model at all. I am only familiar with Hibernate, but there you have three options: Lazy load...
3062 Jan Algermissen
algermissen1971 Offline Send Email
Jan 5, 2006
8:43 pm
Hi Torsten, ... I like this idea. You might generalize this further: objects should only hold object references to objects that contribute to their identity...
3063 Per Spilling
perspill Offline Send Email
Jan 5, 2006
11:03 pm
Well, selling DDD to business people is necessary in many cases because they usually control the budgets. If they are not convinced that doing strategic...
3064 Per Spilling
perspill Offline Send Email
Jan 5, 2006
11:12 pm
Yes, I agree that modelling/enforcing a UB, and the benefits this produces, is one of the most valuable results of doing DDD. Good points. Per ...
3065 Jan Algermissen
algermissen1971 Offline Send Email
Jan 6, 2006
8:06 am
... Just thinking.....why do you want to serialize the domain object in the first place? Jan ...
3066 Per Spilling
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Jan 6, 2006
8:22 am
Oops.. that should of course be UL, not UB :-) ________________________________ Fra: domaindrivendesign@yahoogroups.com på vegne av Per Spilling Sendt: fr...
3067 Torsten Beuck
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Jan 6, 2006
8:40 am
Jan, ... We are just building an intranet application which should replace a bunch of 2-tier PowerBuilder/C++ applications. We decided to use an n-tier...
3068 Tomas Karlsson
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Jan 6, 2006
9:43 am
Hi, In a distributed system this will happen all the time. Objects will be "borrowed" from the domain and displayed in another application. /Tomas...
3069 Jan Algermissen
algermissen1971 Offline Send Email
Jan 6, 2006
10:01 am
... Ummm...will it? Why would I need to move the object around to do something with it? Why not ask the object in the first place, right where it is? Jan ... ...
3070 Jan Algermissen
algermissen1971 Offline Send Email
Jan 6, 2006
10:10 am
... What about distributed object technologies? Why don't you use RMI or Corba or Web services or REST for this? Jan ... ...
3071 Per Spilling
perspill Offline Send Email
Jan 6, 2006
10:10 am
Just want to clarify that with "business people" I don't mean domain experts. Domain experts usually have no problem understanding the value of "high level...
3072 Tomas Karlsson
marcellus874 Offline Send Email
Jan 6, 2006
10:33 am
Hi, My point is that the object can be in another process and on another machine, and not "right where it is". Perhaps you have one application handling...
3073 Torsten Beuck
tbeuck66 Offline Send Email
Jan 6, 2006
10:35 am
... Oh, I will use RMI. But therefore I have to serialize the domain objects to send them over the network to the client. And to serialize them, I have to...
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