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See this olso on my blog: http://jroller.com/page/olaru Domain Driven Design and enterprise applications. I was very confused after read mister Erik Evans...
Cristian Olaru
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Jan 2, 2006
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3045
... What would happen if you move the service logic into the Value Object classes for services that pertain to specific Value Objects?...
Scott Bellware
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It seems as if XIC removes the duplicity problem (having domain behavior in two places: 1. orchestration and 2. within objects) by removing the domain...
anagnost68
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I suppose that you could think of it that way, but it doesn't have to be. XIC's service mapping is an integration technology within heterogeneous enterprise ...
Matthew T. Adams
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Jan 3, 2006
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I think enterprise applications as you have described them would be anti-DDD. So the question is whether enterprise applications really do have to be defined...
billhamaker
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Hi, DDD is easy to sell to architects and developers, but is more difficult to sell to business people (at least that's my experience so far). Does anyone on...
Per Spilling
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Hi, Business people should know about processes and information/resources - and the relation between them. (Otherwise they should do something else, like...
Tomas Karlsson
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Jan 5, 2006
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From: "Per Spilling" <per.spilling.at.objectware.no@...> To: "domaindrivendesign@yahoogroups.com" ...
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jhrothjr
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Jan 5, 2006
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Well, it seems that business people find the Zachman Framework more interesting and useful than DDD from a business value perspective. I don't know much about...
Per Spilling
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Jan 5, 2006
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I'd be interested in that antidote too. :) Anders, ... Anders Rene Sveen +47-9244-3820 anders@......
Anders Sveen
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Jan 5, 2006
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To quote a famous trans-sovereign sweat shop: Just Do It! I have experience working with business SMEs (Subject Matter Experts) where over the course of a...
Tom Evans
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Jan 5, 2006
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With apologies to John, Per, and Tomas, I have to differ. I don't think business people necessarily care about testing frameworks, architecture frameworks, or...
Randy Stafford
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Jan 5, 2006
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When using an OR mapper (JDO, TopLink, Hibernate) for persisting domain objects a special problem arises if you like to serialize the domain object. It's in...
Torsten Beuck
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Jan 5, 2006
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From: "Randy Stafford" <randy.stafford.at.oracle.com@...> To: "domaindrivendesign@yahoogroups.com" ...
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jhrothjr
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Jan 5, 2006
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... IMO, the value of DDD to business people rests in the emergence and reinforcement of the Ubiquitous Language on the development team, and the direct...
Scott Bellware
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Jan 5, 2006
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One solution to your problem is handled by JDO 2.0 fetch groups. You identify the fields that belong to a particular fetch group, optionally including ...
Matthew T. Adams
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Jan 5, 2006
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... [snip] ... Amen, Scott. I have seen this time and time again. Once developers and business people begin focusing on using the UL (Ubiquitous Language),...
Matthew T. Adams
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Jan 5, 2006
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... If I understand you correctly, it does not restrain the domain model at all. I am only familiar with Hibernate, but there you have three options: Lazy load...
Johannes Brodwall
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Jan 5, 2006
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Hi Torsten, ... I like this idea. You might generalize this further: objects should only hold object references to objects that contribute to their identity...
Jan Algermissen
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Jan 5, 2006
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Well, selling DDD to business people is necessary in many cases because they usually control the budgets. If they are not convinced that doing strategic...
Per Spilling
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Yes, I agree that modelling/enforcing a UB, and the benefits this produces, is one of the most valuable results of doing DDD. Good points. Per ...
Per Spilling
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... Just thinking.....why do you want to serialize the domain object in the first place? Jan ...
Jan Algermissen
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Jan 6, 2006
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Oops.. that should of course be UL, not UB :-) ________________________________ Fra: domaindrivendesign@yahoogroups.com på vegne av Per Spilling Sendt: fr...
Per Spilling
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Jan, ... We are just building an intranet application which should replace a bunch of 2-tier PowerBuilder/C++ applications. We decided to use an n-tier...
Torsten Beuck
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Jan 6, 2006
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3068
Hi, In a distributed system this will happen all the time. Objects will be "borrowed" from the domain and displayed in another application. /Tomas...
Tomas Karlsson
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Jan 6, 2006
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... Ummm...will it? Why would I need to move the object around to do something with it? Why not ask the object in the first place, right where it is? Jan ... ...
Jan Algermissen
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... What about distributed object technologies? Why don't you use RMI or Corba or Web services or REST for this? Jan ... ...
Jan Algermissen
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Jan 6, 2006
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Just want to clarify that with "business people" I don't mean domain experts. Domain experts usually have no problem understanding the value of "high level...
Per Spilling
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Hi, My point is that the object can be in another process and on another machine, and not "right where it is". Perhaps you have one application handling...
Tomas Karlsson
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Jan 6, 2006
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... Oh, I will use RMI. But therefore I have to serialize the domain objects to send them over the network to the client. And to serialize them, I have to...
Torsten Beuck
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