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#594 From: "ddhopkinson" <ddhopkinson@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:51 pm
Subject: Re: Hi New here from Selmer TN
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Really? That's great! Yes, most of mine have the good shape, but they seemed to
be getting darker and darker.

I'll try to post some pics, but everyone is doing fine so far. Thanks again.
They are absolutely lovely! I was asked about the chickens eveytime we stopped
for fuel (because they could hear them, and see them in the back). Some people
bounded away happy with free eggs, but everyone got a quick history lesson on
the Dominique, and why it is important to save them!
--Deborah

--- In dominique_chickens@yahoogroups.com, "Billy" <S101982@...> wrote:
>
> Deborah,
> > You can show the hens they only lose 1/2 point for the stain on the beak,

#593 From: "Billy" <S101982@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 9:56 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Hi New here from Selmer TN
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Deborah,
Hi there glad you made it ok and got things set up
You can show the hens they only lose 1/2 point for the stain on the beak, that is one thing you got to try to breed away from but it is hard  it is set in the Dom's  and it takes alot of culling  But do not cull one for it if it has everthing else,  The point are 2 points for shape and 1point for color,
Glade you made it
 
Thank You
 Billy

#592 From: Bryan K Oliver <bryan_k_oliver@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 1:56 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Hi New here from Selmer TN
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David,
 
I will be attending the Ohio National on Friday of this week and I do plan to bring two cockerels at this point for someone.  I could possibly bring another bird for you if you can pick him up on Friday.  In case you are not familiar, the Ohio National is in Columbus, OH at the fairgrounds.  This show will run Friday evening, all day Sat. and up until about 2PM on Sunday.
 
Take care,
 
BRYAN
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BRYAN K. OLIVER
Walhalla, South Carolina 
 


--- On Mon, 11/9/09, ddhopkinson <ddhopkinson@...> wrote:

From: ddhopkinson <ddhopkinson@...>
Subject: [dominique_chickens] Re: Hi New here from Selmer TN
To: dominique_chickens@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 8:13 AM

 
David,

I do not have a roo you could have this year, but I could offer some hatching eggs. They'll definitely give you back some color, and they have an excellent v-back. However, if you can get some Doms from Bryan, I'd go that route. I'm told he has the best.

Deborah Hopkinson
Owner
Dominique Haven Farms
16807 Laura Lee Dr
Brooksville, FL 34610

--- In dominique_chickens@ yahoogroups. com, "Tammy James" <gcsba@...> wrote:
>
Females tend to have a bit more white in relation to black than other doms I am familiar with. Likewise the males tend to be a bit lighter in overall color, some have white washed out areas where black should be.

> Some have suggested that I completely start over again with a better line. Even for all their faults, I don't want to give up on these and completely loose this line.
> David



#591 From: "ddhopkinson" <ddhopkinson@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 1:13 pm
Subject: Re: Hi New here from Selmer TN
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David,

I do not have a roo you could have this year, but I could offer some hatching
eggs. They'll definitely give you back some color, and they have an excellent
v-back. However, if you can get some Doms from Bryan, I'd go that route. I'm
told he has the best.

Deborah Hopkinson
Owner
Dominique Haven Farms
16807 Laura Lee Dr
Brooksville, FL 34610


--- In dominique_chickens@yahoogroups.com, "Tammy James" <gcsba@...> wrote:
>
Females tend to have a bit more white in relation to black than other doms I am
familiar with.  Likewise the males tend to be a bit lighter in overall color,
some have white washed out areas where black should be.

> Some have suggested that I completely start over again with a better line. 
Even for all their faults, I don't want to give up on these and completely loose
this line.
> David

#590 From: "ddhopkinson" <ddhopkinson@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 1:00 pm
Subject: Re: Hi New here from Selmer TN
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Welcome, Rindy! Sorry this is such a slow board. We are all out playing with our
chickens! :)

When a breed goes down to only 4 flocks, like the Dominique did, it is difficult
to get a "pure" bird. I have been told to cull, cull, cull, to work toward the
Standard. My culling involves re-homing, or larger acreage, though. Take your
best hens to the Standard, your best roo, and only breed those. I just picked up
a trio of good Doms (thanks, Billy!) to improve my flock. Billy told me the roo
had won many shows. The hens, however, have black beaks, so I don't know if I
can show those. Their feather coloring, according to the Standard, is excellent,
and that is what I hope to improve. My chicks were getting darker and darker. My
roos, for some reason, were coming out perfect, but many of the pullets were
almost black. I do have one almost-perfect hen, so she will be in my breeding
flock as well.

We have moved to a farm in Brooksville, FL, where my friends will take care of
the animals for me, while I'm in training for the Army. In less han a week, they
have fallen in love with the Doms, and she wants to start a flock of her own
when I come back. I gave almost all my chicks to a very nice couple in OK when
we moved, who wanted to get back into raising rare birds. I feel like a
Dominique-version of Johnny Appleseed, starting a flock of Doms wherever I go!
>:o

I didn't know the pitfalls of hatchery birds, either. It is better to start out
with the best, obviously, but you can always improve them with time, or find
some good birds to re-start with (took me almost 3 years).

You'll love the Doms. They've enriched my life beyond words. Welcome again to
the Dom community, and the group!

Deborah Hopkinson
Owner
Dominique Haven Farms
16807 Laura Lee Ln
Brooksville, FL 34610



--- In dominique_chickens@yahoogroups.com, "wendyspace" <wendyspace@...> wrote:
>
> We have a small farm in Selmer Tn. I have had chickens all my life. I really
got into raising them full time in the last few years after my husband suffered
a stroke. I bought Dominques last year to raise. I have 23 beautiful ladies and
two roos. I also have lots of other chickens also. I bought mine through the
hatchery. I've read recently that they are not as good. Would like your opinions
on this. Can you make a heritage breed out of them By picking out the best each
hatch. I don't know the difference between regular and heritage. any info would
be appreciated. Thanks Rindy
>

#589 From: Caleb Dyer <jacksparrowsmate@...>
Date: Mon Nov 2, 2009 4:04 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Hi New here from Selmer TN
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Hi! Sorry for the delayed response, Yahoo isn't my main email thus I don't check it as often as I should. My main email is dyer@.... I should be able to get a dozen hatching eggs or so for you. I only have two hens and four are brood, but the two that you would be getting hatching eggs from would be the ones with the best back features (good "U", nice angle of the tail feathers) which in many ppls opinions (including Mark Fields) is the best place to start since its hard to breed for. I'm new to this so let me know how you would like to go about this. I have some ideas but if you having some time frame/transport in mind let me know and we'll go from there. Talk to you soon!!

Caleb

--- On Sat, 10/24/09, theebenezerfarm <theebenezerfarm@...> wrote:

From: theebenezerfarm <theebenezerfarm@...>
Subject: [dominique_chickens] Re: Hi New here from Selmer TN
To: dominique_chickens@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 9:48 PM

 

If you have been breeding this same line with turn over of males for 3 or 4 generations and you see absolutely no improvement, you'll pretty well in my opinion need to look at bringing in a male and trying to use him and then his sons to turn some traits around. The first question you should mull over is which trait or two do you want to fix first. It is easier to do it that way that try to fix a bunch of things at the same effort. But you never know what you'll get as crossed birds. It might help and it might get worse!! Some comfort, huh?

--- In dominique_chickens@ yahoogroups. com, "Tammy James" <gcsba@...> wrote:
>
> The elderly woman told me where she got her doms. I made a trip there shortly thereafter but was vacant and could not get a lead as to where they might be currently. I had asked the woman if she would sell me some hatching eggs, she said that she had saved about a dozen with the intention to hatch them but would give them to me. A day or so later after work I called her to let her know that I was coming to pick them up and she asked me if I would like to buy her one rooster and all her hens. She wanted twenty dollars for the adult doms and gave me eighteen or nineteen eggs. I hatched all the eggs except three or four. After these years I still have two of the old dom hens and hatched a few chicks from them and a younger dom rooster this year.
>
> This couple had kept the doms to "adorn" their yard and to provide eggs for their table. The male dom had begun to run and attack adults and children alike. Cats and dogs stood no chance against him. This is the reason they decided to offer the adults to me.
>
> I continued to use this old male over the old hens until his death a couple of years ago, then began to use some of his sons. Inbreeding, while not bad in itself is definitely going on here. Occasionally have crooked toes and roach backs. Adults consistently run a pound more than standard, much like the standard was many years ago. Inverted combs more prevalent in males but also exists in females as well. When there is no inverted spike, on some males the spike is somewhat flattened. While it is known that single combed birds appear in even some of the oldest lines, I tend to have more in this line than with any other that I have had personal experience with. Females tend to have a bit more white in relation to black than other doms I am familiar with. Likewise the males tend to be a bit lighter in overall color, some have white washed out areas where black should be.
>
> Some have suggested that I completely start over again with a better line. Even for all their faults, I don't want to give up on these and completely loose this line.
> David
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: theebenezerfarm
> To: dominique_chickens@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 8:05 PM
> Subject: [dominique_chickens ] Re: Hi New here from Selmer TN
>
>
> David,
> Do you know the source of the Doms that the couple had? Has anyone else kept the line going in your area? What traits do you think are inferior?
>
> --- In dominique_chickens@ yahoogroups. com, "Tammy James" <gcsba@> wrote:
> >
> > Would you and/or your sister have a dozen or so hatching eggs to sell? I have a small flock of Dominiques from an elderly couple near here. They had maintained them for many years. They are not show quality but I have continued to breed them(doing some selection in the process) so that this line does not dissappear. I would like to continue this as long as is possible but begin another flock of another better line, then do some crossing between the two lines to created a third line.
> > Thanks,
> > David D. James
> > 2262 Highway 59
> > Spruce Pine, AL 35585
> > cell 256-412-2048
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: jacksparrowsmate
> > To: dominique_chickens@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 9:06 AM
> > Subject: [dominique_chickens ] Re: Hi New here from Selmer TN
> >
> >
> >
> > Hey neighbor!(Sort of) I live in Knoxville, TN and have a small flock of Dominiques. I have a breeding program in conjunction with a flock that my sister owns in Gainesville, GA. Since I decided to have a breeder flock, I wanted to get the best birds I could find and thus decided against hatchery birds. I went to SC to get mine from Bryan Oliver and they seem to be pretty good birds. The Roo is a really handsome boy. My sister got a couple of birds from Bryan but also got a few from Charles Rice who lives just north of here and is really pleased with her flock. She especially likes the hens from Charles' flock. If you would like to mix up bloodlines a little to meet your breeding goals, just let me know. I have two broodies right now thought one is sitting on golf balls while I collect from my top breeder Hen. I hope to show my Roo at the Ohio National Show next month. Just got NPIP certified a few weeks ago. Anyways, just thought I'd say hey to a fellow Tennessean AND Dominique owner.
> >
> > --- In dominique_chickens@ yahoogroups. com, "wendyspace" <wendyspace@ > wrote:
> > >
> > > We have a small farm in Selmer Tn. I have had chickens all my life. I really got into raising them full time in the last few years after my husband suffered a stroke. I bought Dominques last year to raise. I have 23 beautiful ladies and two roos. I also have lots of other chickens also. I bought mine through the hatchery. I've read recently that they are not as good. Would like your opinions on this. Can you make a heritage breed out of them By picking out the best each hatch. I don't know the difference between regular and heritage. any info would be appreciated. Thanks Rindy
> > >
> >
>



#588 From: "theebenezerfarm" <theebenezerfarm@...>
Date: Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:56 am
Subject: Re: Hi New here from Selmer TN
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Been thinking about it a bit more and wonder if you ought to get a top notch Dom
bantam rooster and get them downsized first.  Might bring in some great traits,
to boot. Could speed the operation and bring in a good standard male at the same
time and pen breed in two pens.  You could hold some of the roosters from your
home line to use in coming years.  But you might be like me and not have all of
the necessary pens and such.  Just thinking: it can be dangerous!

--- In dominique_chickens@yahoogroups.com, "Tammy James" <gcsba@...> wrote:
>
> The elderly woman told me where she got her doms. I made a trip there shortly
thereafter but was vacant and could not get a lead as to where they might be
currently.  I had asked the woman if she would sell me some hatching eggs, she
said that she had saved about a dozen with the intention to hatch them but would
give them to me.  A day or so later after work I called her to let her know that
I was coming to pick them up and she asked me if I would like to buy her one
rooster and all her hens.  She wanted twenty dollars for the adult doms and gave
me eighteen or nineteen eggs.  I hatched all the eggs except three or four. 
After these years I still have two of the old dom hens and hatched a few chicks
from them and a younger dom rooster this year.
>
> This couple had kept the doms to "adorn" their yard and to provide eggs for
their table.  The male dom had begun to run and attack adults and children
alike.  Cats and dogs stood no chance against him.  This is the reason they
decided to offer the adults to me.
>
> I continued to use this old male over the old hens until his death a couple of
years ago, then began to use some of his sons.  Inbreeding, while not bad in
itself is definitely going on here.  Occasionally have crooked toes and roach
backs.  Adults consistently run a pound more than standard, much like the
standard was many years ago.  Inverted combs more prevalent in males but also
exists in females as well.  When there is no inverted spike, on some males the
spike is somewhat flattened.  While it is known that single combed birds appear
in even some of the oldest lines, I tend to have more in this line than with any
other that I have had personal experience with.  Females tend to have a bit more
white in relation to black than other doms I am familiar with.  Likewise the
males tend to be a bit lighter in overall color, some have white washed out
areas where black should be.
>
> Some have suggested that I completely start over again with a better line. 
Even for all their faults, I don't want to give up on these and completely loose
this line.
> David
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: theebenezerfarm
>   To: dominique_chickens@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 8:05 PM
>   Subject: [dominique_chickens] Re: Hi New here from Selmer TN
>
>
>     David,
>   Do you know the source of the Doms that the couple had? Has anyone else kept
the line going in your area? What traits do you think are inferior?
>
>   --- In dominique_chickens@yahoogroups.com, "Tammy James" <gcsba@> wrote:
>   >
>   > Would you and/or your sister have a dozen or so hatching eggs to sell? I
have a small flock of Dominiques from an elderly couple near here. They had
maintained them for many years. They are not show quality but I have continued
to breed them(doing some selection in the process) so that this line does not
dissappear. I would like to continue this as long as is possible but begin
another flock of another better line, then do some crossing between the two
lines to created a third line.
>   > Thanks,
>   > David D. James
>   > 2262 Highway 59
>   > Spruce Pine, AL 35585
>   > cell 256-412-2048
>   >
>   > ----- Original Message -----
>   > From: jacksparrowsmate
>   > To: dominique_chickens@yahoogroups.com
>   > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 9:06 AM
>   > Subject: [dominique_chickens] Re: Hi New here from Selmer TN
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > Hey neighbor!(Sort of) I live in Knoxville, TN and have a small flock of
Dominiques. I have a breeding program in conjunction with a flock that my sister
owns in Gainesville, GA. Since I decided to have a breeder flock, I wanted to
get the best birds I could find and thus decided against hatchery birds. I went
to SC to get mine from Bryan Oliver and they seem to be pretty good birds. The
Roo is a really handsome boy. My sister got a couple of birds from Bryan but
also got a few from Charles Rice who lives just north of here and is really
pleased with her flock. She especially likes the hens from Charles' flock. If
you would like to mix up bloodlines a little to meet your breeding goals, just
let me know. I have two broodies right now thought one is sitting on golf balls
while I collect from my top breeder Hen. I hope to show my Roo at the Ohio
National Show next month. Just got NPIP certified a few weeks ago. Anyways, just
thought I'd say hey to a fellow Tennessean AND Dominique owner.
>   >
>   > --- In dominique_chickens@yahoogroups.com, "wendyspace" <wendyspace@>
wrote:
>   > >
>   > > We have a small farm in Selmer Tn. I have had chickens all my life. I
really got into raising them full time in the last few years after my husband
suffered a stroke. I bought Dominques last year to raise. I have 23 beautiful
ladies and two roos. I also have lots of other chickens also. I bought mine
through the hatchery. I've read recently that they are not as good. Would like
your opinions on this. Can you make a heritage breed out of them By picking out
the best each hatch. I don't know the difference between regular and heritage.
any info would be appreciated. Thanks Rindy
>   > >
>   >
>

#587 From: "theebenezerfarm" <theebenezerfarm@...>
Date: Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:48 am
Subject: Re: Hi New here from Selmer TN
theebenezerfarm
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If you have been breeding this same line with turn over of males for 3 or 4
generations and you see absolutely no improvement, you'll pretty well in my
opinion need to look at bringing in a male and trying to use him and then his
sons to turn some traits around.  The first question you should mull over is
which trait or two do you want to fix first.  It is easier to do it that way
that try to fix a bunch of things at the same effort.  But you never know what
you'll get as crossed birds.  It might help and it might get worse!!  Some
comfort, huh?

--- In dominique_chickens@yahoogroups.com, "Tammy James" <gcsba@...> wrote:
>
> The elderly woman told me where she got her doms. I made a trip there shortly
thereafter but was vacant and could not get a lead as to where they might be
currently.  I had asked the woman if she would sell me some hatching eggs, she
said that she had saved about a dozen with the intention to hatch them but would
give them to me.  A day or so later after work I called her to let her know that
I was coming to pick them up and she asked me if I would like to buy her one
rooster and all her hens.  She wanted twenty dollars for the adult doms and gave
me eighteen or nineteen eggs.  I hatched all the eggs except three or four. 
After these years I still have two of the old dom hens and hatched a few chicks
from them and a younger dom rooster this year.
>
> This couple had kept the doms to "adorn" their yard and to provide eggs for
their table.  The male dom had begun to run and attack adults and children
alike.  Cats and dogs stood no chance against him.  This is the reason they
decided to offer the adults to me.
>
> I continued to use this old male over the old hens until his death a couple of
years ago, then began to use some of his sons.  Inbreeding, while not bad in
itself is definitely going on here.  Occasionally have crooked toes and roach
backs.  Adults consistently run a pound more than standard, much like the
standard was many years ago.  Inverted combs more prevalent in males but also
exists in females as well.  When there is no inverted spike, on some males the
spike is somewhat flattened.  While it is known that single combed birds appear
in even some of the oldest lines, I tend to have more in this line than with any
other that I have had personal experience with.  Females tend to have a bit more
white in relation to black than other doms I am familiar with.  Likewise the
males tend to be a bit lighter in overall color, some have white washed out
areas where black should be.
>
> Some have suggested that I completely start over again with a better line. 
Even for all their faults, I don't want to give up on these and completely loose
this line.
> David
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: theebenezerfarm
>   To: dominique_chickens@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 8:05 PM
>   Subject: [dominique_chickens] Re: Hi New here from Selmer TN
>
>
>     David,
>   Do you know the source of the Doms that the couple had? Has anyone else kept
the line going in your area? What traits do you think are inferior?
>
>   --- In dominique_chickens@yahoogroups.com, "Tammy James" <gcsba@> wrote:
>   >
>   > Would you and/or your sister have a dozen or so hatching eggs to sell? I
have a small flock of Dominiques from an elderly couple near here. They had
maintained them for many years. They are not show quality but I have continued
to breed them(doing some selection in the process) so that this line does not
dissappear. I would like to continue this as long as is possible but begin
another flock of another better line, then do some crossing between the two
lines to created a third line.
>   > Thanks,
>   > David D. James
>   > 2262 Highway 59
>   > Spruce Pine, AL 35585
>   > cell 256-412-2048
>   >
>   > ----- Original Message -----
>   > From: jacksparrowsmate
>   > To: dominique_chickens@yahoogroups.com
>   > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 9:06 AM
>   > Subject: [dominique_chickens] Re: Hi New here from Selmer TN
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > Hey neighbor!(Sort of) I live in Knoxville, TN and have a small flock of
Dominiques. I have a breeding program in conjunction with a flock that my sister
owns in Gainesville, GA. Since I decided to have a breeder flock, I wanted to
get the best birds I could find and thus decided against hatchery birds. I went
to SC to get mine from Bryan Oliver and they seem to be pretty good birds. The
Roo is a really handsome boy. My sister got a couple of birds from Bryan but
also got a few from Charles Rice who lives just north of here and is really
pleased with her flock. She especially likes the hens from Charles' flock. If
you would like to mix up bloodlines a little to meet your breeding goals, just
let me know. I have two broodies right now thought one is sitting on golf balls
while I collect from my top breeder Hen. I hope to show my Roo at the Ohio
National Show next month. Just got NPIP certified a few weeks ago. Anyways, just
thought I'd say hey to a fellow Tennessean AND Dominique owner.
>   >
>   > --- In dominique_chickens@yahoogroups.com, "wendyspace" <wendyspace@>
wrote:
>   > >
>   > > We have a small farm in Selmer Tn. I have had chickens all my life. I
really got into raising them full time in the last few years after my husband
suffered a stroke. I bought Dominques last year to raise. I have 23 beautiful
ladies and two roos. I also have lots of other chickens also. I bought mine
through the hatchery. I've read recently that they are not as good. Would like
your opinions on this. Can you make a heritage breed out of them By picking out
the best each hatch. I don't know the difference between regular and heritage.
any info would be appreciated. Thanks Rindy
>   > >
>   >
>

#586 From: Bryan K Oliver <bryan_k_oliver@...>
Date: Sat Oct 24, 2009 1:35 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Hi New here from Selmer TN
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David,
 
If you choose not to start over I would highly recommend that you introduce a new cockerel to the females in the spring.  I have plenty of nice young cockerels here on the farm and you would be welcome to one of my birds.  This introduction would do your breeding program well, very well...  You take care, BRYAN

FROM:
BRYAN K. OLIVER
Southern Oak Farm
Walhalla, South Carolina
864-638-5650 
 


--- On Thu, 10/22/09, Tammy James <gcsba@...> wrote:

From: Tammy James <gcsba@...>
Subject: Re: [dominique_chickens] Re: Hi New here from Selmer TN
To: dominique_chickens@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 11:02 PM

 
The elderly woman told me where she got her doms. I made a trip there shortly thereafter but was vacant and could not get a lead as to where they might be currently.  I had asked the woman if she would sell me some hatching eggs, she said that she had saved about a dozen with the intention to hatch them but would give them to me.  A day or so later after work I called her to let her know that I was coming to pick them up and she asked me if I would like to buy her one rooster and all her hens.  She wanted twenty dollars for the adult doms and gave me eighteen or nineteen eggs.  I hatched all the eggs except three or four.  After these years I still have two of the old dom hens and hatched a few chicks from them and a younger dom rooster this year.
 
This couple had kept the doms to "adorn" their yard and to provide eggs for their table.  The male dom had begun to run and attack adults and children alike.  Cats and dogs stood no chance against him.  This is the reason they decided to offer the adults to me.
 
I continued to use this old male over the old hens until his death a couple of years ago, then began to use some of his sons.  Inbreeding, while not bad in itself is definitely going on here.  Occasionally have crooked toes and roach backs.  Adults consistently run a pound more than standard, much like the standard was many years ago.  Inverted combs more prevalent in males but also exists in females as well.  When there is no inverted spike, on some males the spike is somewhat flattened.  While it is known that single combed birds appear in even some of the oldest lines, I tend to have more in this line than with any other that I have had personal experience with.  Females tend to have a bit more white in relation to black than other doms I am familiar with.  Likewise the males tend to be a bit lighter in overall color, some have white washed out areas where black should be.
 
Some have suggested that I completely start over again with a better line.  Even for all their faults, I don't want to give up on these and completely loose this line.
David 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 8:05 PM
Subject: [dominique_chickens ] Re: Hi New here from Selmer TN

 
David,
Do you know the source of the Doms that the couple had? Has anyone else kept the line going in your area? What traits do you think are inferior?

--- In dominique_chickens@ yahoogroups. com, "Tammy James" <gcsba@...> wrote:
>
> Would you and/or your sister have a dozen or so hatching eggs to sell? I have a small flock of Dominiques from an elderly couple near here. They had maintained them for many years. They are not show quality but I have continued to breed them(doing some selection in the process) so that this line does not dissappear. I would like to continue this as long as is possible but begin another flock of another better line, then do some crossing between the two lines to created a third line.
> Thanks,
> David D. James
> 2262 Highway 59
> Spruce Pine, AL 35585
> cell 256-412-2048
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jacksparrowsmate
> To: dominique_chickens@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 9:06 AM
> Subject: [dominique_chickens ] Re: Hi New here from Selmer TN
>
>
>
> Hey neighbor!(Sort of) I live in Knoxville, TN and have a small flock of Dominiques. I have a breeding program in conjunction with a flock that my sister owns in Gainesville, GA. Since I decided to have a breeder flock, I wanted to get the best birds I could find and thus decided against hatchery birds. I went to SC to get mine from Bryan Oliver and they seem to be pretty good birds. The Roo is a really handsome boy. My sister got a couple of birds from Bryan but also got a few from Charles Rice who lives just north of here and is really pleased with her flock. She especially likes the hens from Charles' flock. If you would like to mix up bloodlines a little to meet your breeding goals, just let me know. I have two broodies right now thought one is sitting on golf balls while I collect from my top breeder Hen. I hope to show my Roo at the Ohio National Show next month. Just got NPIP certified a few weeks ago. Anyways, just thought I'd say hey to a fellow Tennessean AND Dominique owner.
>
> --- In dominique_chickens@ yahoogroups. com, "wendyspace" <wendyspace@ > wrote:
> >
> > We have a small farm in Selmer Tn. I have had chickens all my life. I really got into raising them full time in the last few years after my husband suffered a stroke. I bought Dominques last year to raise. I have 23 beautiful ladies and two roos. I also have lots of other chickens also. I bought mine through the hatchery. I've read recently that they are not as good. Would like your opinions on this. Can you make a heritage breed out of them By picking out the best each hatch. I don't know the difference between regular and heritage. any info would be appreciated. Thanks Rindy
> >
>



#585 From: "Tammy James" <gcsba@...>
Date: Fri Oct 23, 2009 3:02 am
Subject: Re: Re: Hi New here from Selmer TN
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The elderly woman told me where she got her doms. I made a trip there shortly thereafter but was vacant and could not get a lead as to where they might be currently.  I had asked the woman if she would sell me some hatching eggs, she said that she had saved about a dozen with the intention to hatch them but would give them to me.  A day or so later after work I called her to let her know that I was coming to pick them up and she asked me if I would like to buy her one rooster and all her hens.  She wanted twenty dollars for the adult doms and gave me eighteen or nineteen eggs.  I hatched all the eggs except three or four.  After these years I still have two of the old dom hens and hatched a few chicks from them and a younger dom rooster this year.
 
This couple had kept the doms to "adorn" their yard and to provide eggs for their table.  The male dom had begun to run and attack adults and children alike.  Cats and dogs stood no chance against him.  This is the reason they decided to offer the adults to me.
 
I continued to use this old male over the old hens until his death a couple of years ago, then began to use some of his sons.  Inbreeding, while not bad in itself is definitely going on here.  Occasionally have crooked toes and roach backs.  Adults consistently run a pound more than standard, much like the standard was many years ago.  Inverted combs more prevalent in males but also exists in females as well.  When there is no inverted spike, on some males the spike is somewhat flattened.  While it is known that single combed birds appear in even some of the oldest lines, I tend to have more in this line than with any other that I have had personal experience with.  Females tend to have a bit more white in relation to black than other doms I am familiar with.  Likewise the males tend to be a bit lighter in overall color, some have white washed out areas where black should be.
 
Some have suggested that I completely start over again with a better line.  Even for all their faults, I don't want to give up on these and completely loose this line.
David 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 8:05 PM
Subject: [dominique_chickens] Re: Hi New here from Selmer TN

 

David,
Do you know the source of the Doms that the couple had? Has anyone else kept the line going in your area? What traits do you think are inferior?

--- In dominique_chickens@yahoogroups.com, "Tammy James" <gcsba@...> wrote:
>
> Would you and/or your sister have a dozen or so hatching eggs to sell? I have a small flock of Dominiques from an elderly couple near here. They had maintained them for many years. They are not show quality but I have continued to breed them(doing some selection in the process) so that this line does not dissappear. I would like to continue this as long as is possible but begin another flock of another better line, then do some crossing between the two lines to created a third line.
> Thanks,
> David D. James
> 2262 Highway 59
> Spruce Pine, AL 35585
> cell 256-412-2048
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jacksparrowsmate
> To: dominique_chickens@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 9:06 AM
> Subject: [dominique_chickens] Re: Hi New here from Selmer TN
>
>
>
> Hey neighbor!(Sort of) I live in Knoxville, TN and have a small flock of Dominiques. I have a breeding program in conjunction with a flock that my sister owns in Gainesville, GA. Since I decided to have a breeder flock, I wanted to get the best birds I could find and thus decided against hatchery birds. I went to SC to get mine from Bryan Oliver and they seem to be pretty good birds. The Roo is a really handsome boy. My sister got a couple of birds from Bryan but also got a few from Charles Rice who lives just north of here and is really pleased with her flock. She especially likes the hens from Charles' flock. If you would like to mix up bloodlines a little to meet your breeding goals, just let me know. I have two broodies right now thought one is sitting on golf balls while I collect from my top breeder Hen. I hope to show my Roo at the Ohio National Show next month. Just got NPIP certified a few weeks ago. Anyways, just thought I'd say hey to a fellow Tennessean AND Dominique owner.
>
> --- In dominique_chickens@yahoogroups.com, "wendyspace" <wendyspace@> wrote:
> >
> > We have a small farm in Selmer Tn. I have had chickens all my life. I really got into raising them full time in the last few years after my husband suffered a stroke. I bought Dominques last year to raise. I have 23 beautiful ladies and two roos. I also have lots of other chickens also. I bought mine through the hatchery. I've read recently that they are not as good. Would like your opinions on this. Can you make a heritage breed out of them By picking out the best each hatch. I don't know the difference between regular and heritage. any info would be appreciated. Thanks Rindy
> >
>


#584 From: "theebenezerfarm" <theebenezerfarm@...>
Date: Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:05 am
Subject: Re: Hi New here from Selmer TN
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David,
Do you know the source of the Doms that the couple had?  Has anyone else kept
the line going in your area?  What traits do you think are inferior?



--- In dominique_chickens@yahoogroups.com, "Tammy James" <gcsba@...> wrote:
>
> Would you and/or your sister have a dozen or so hatching eggs to sell?  I have
a small flock of Dominiques from an elderly couple near here.  They had
maintained them for many years.  They are not show quality but I have continued
to breed them(doing some selection in the process) so that this line does not
dissappear.  I would like to continue this as long as is possible but begin
another flock of another better line, then do some crossing between the two
lines to created a third line.
> Thanks,
> David D. James
> 2262 Highway 59
> Spruce Pine, AL 35585
> cell 256-412-2048
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: jacksparrowsmate
>   To: dominique_chickens@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 9:06 AM
>   Subject: [dominique_chickens] Re: Hi New here from Selmer TN
>
>
>
>   Hey neighbor!(Sort of) I live in Knoxville, TN and have a small flock of
Dominiques. I have a breeding program in conjunction with a flock that my sister
owns in Gainesville, GA. Since I decided to have a breeder flock, I wanted to
get the best birds I could find and thus decided against hatchery birds. I went
to SC to get mine from Bryan Oliver and they seem to be pretty good birds. The
Roo is a really handsome boy. My sister got a couple of birds from Bryan but
also got a few from Charles Rice who lives just north of here and is really
pleased with her flock. She especially likes the hens from Charles' flock. If
you would like to mix up bloodlines a little to meet your breeding goals, just
let me know. I have two broodies right now thought one is sitting on golf balls
while I collect from my top breeder Hen. I hope to show my Roo at the Ohio
National Show next month. Just got NPIP certified a few weeks ago. Anyways, just
thought I'd say hey to a fellow Tennessean AND Dominique owner.
>
>   --- In dominique_chickens@yahoogroups.com, "wendyspace" <wendyspace@> wrote:
>   >
>   > We have a small farm in Selmer Tn. I have had chickens all my life. I
really got into raising them full time in the last few years after my husband
suffered a stroke. I bought Dominques last year to raise. I have 23 beautiful
ladies and two roos. I also have lots of other chickens also. I bought mine
through the hatchery. I've read recently that they are not as good. Would like
your opinions on this. Can you make a heritage breed out of them By picking out
the best each hatch. I don't know the difference between regular and heritage.
any info would be appreciated. Thanks Rindy
>   >
>

#583 From: "Tammy James" <gcsba@...>
Date: Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:51 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Hi New here from Selmer TN
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Would you and/or your sister have a dozen or so hatching eggs to sell?  I have a small flock of Dominiques from an elderly couple near here.  They had maintained them for many years.  They are not show quality but I have continued to breed them(doing some selection in the process) so that this line does not dissappear.  I would like to continue this as long as is possible but begin another flock of another better line, then do some crossing between the two lines to created a third line.
Thanks,
David D. James
2262 Highway 59
Spruce Pine, AL 35585
cell 256-412-2048
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 9:06 AM
Subject: [dominique_chickens] Re: Hi New here from Selmer TN

 


Hey neighbor!(Sort of) I live in Knoxville, TN and have a small flock of Dominiques. I have a breeding program in conjunction with a flock that my sister owns in Gainesville, GA. Since I decided to have a breeder flock, I wanted to get the best birds I could find and thus decided against hatchery birds. I went to SC to get mine from Bryan Oliver and they seem to be pretty good birds. The Roo is a really handsome boy. My sister got a couple of birds from Bryan but also got a few from Charles Rice who lives just north of here and is really pleased with her flock. She especially likes the hens from Charles' flock. If you would like to mix up bloodlines a little to meet your breeding goals, just let me know. I have two broodies right now thought one is sitting on golf balls while I collect from my top breeder Hen. I hope to show my Roo at the Ohio National Show next month. Just got NPIP certified a few weeks ago. Anyways, just thought I'd say hey to a fellow Tennessean AND Dominique owner.

--- In dominique_chickens@yahoogroups.com, "wendyspace" <wendyspace@...> wrote:
>
> We have a small farm in Selmer Tn. I have had chickens all my life. I really got into raising them full time in the last few years after my husband suffered a stroke. I bought Dominques last year to raise. I have 23 beautiful ladies and two roos. I also have lots of other chickens also. I bought mine through the hatchery. I've read recently that they are not as good. Would like your opinions on this. Can you make a heritage breed out of them By picking out the best each hatch. I don't know the difference between regular and heritage. any info would be appreciated. Thanks Rindy
>


#582 From: "jacksparrowsmate" <jacksparrowsmate@...>
Date: Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:06 pm
Subject: Re: Hi New here from Selmer TN
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Hey neighbor!(Sort of) I live in Knoxville, TN and have a small flock of
Dominiques. I have a breeding program in conjunction with a flock that my sister
owns in Gainesville, GA. Since I decided to have a breeder flock, I wanted to
get the best birds I could find and thus decided against hatchery birds. I went
to SC to get mine from Bryan Oliver and they seem to be pretty good birds. The
Roo is a really handsome boy. My sister got a couple of birds from Bryan but
also got a few from Charles Rice who lives just north of here and is really
pleased with her flock. She especially likes the hens from Charles' flock. If
you would like to mix up bloodlines a little to meet your breeding goals, just
let me know. I have two broodies right now thought one is sitting on golf balls
while I collect from my top breeder Hen. I hope to show my Roo at the Ohio
National Show next month. Just got NPIP certified a few weeks ago. Anyways, just
thought I'd say hey to a fellow Tennessean AND Dominique owner.



--- In dominique_chickens@yahoogroups.com, "wendyspace" <wendyspace@...> wrote:
>
> We have a small farm in Selmer Tn. I have had chickens all my life. I really
got into raising them full time in the last few years after my husband suffered
a stroke. I bought Dominques last year to raise. I have 23 beautiful ladies and
two roos. I also have lots of other chickens also. I bought mine through the
hatchery. I've read recently that they are not as good. Would like your opinions
on this. Can you make a heritage breed out of them By picking out the best each
hatch. I don't know the difference between regular and heritage. any info would
be appreciated. Thanks Rindy
>

#581 From: RL Van Dusen <wendyspace@...>
Date: Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:36 am
Subject: Re: Re: Hi New here from Selmer TN
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thanks so much

--- On Mon, 10/19/09, theebenezerfarm <theebenezerfarm@...> wrote:

From: theebenezerfarm <theebenezerfarm@...>
Subject: [dominique_chickens] Re: Hi New here from Selmer TN
To: dominique_chickens@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, October 19, 2009, 12:03 PM

 

You can select your way to what the line can do but it may have lost a fudamental element such as hue of dark barring, carriage of the body, etc. You'll need to cull very hard but try to maintain at least 3 roosters and at least 6 hens. The roosters will need to be replaced each year by a quality son if the son is indeed better. Any rooster that sires extreme wierdness needs to be culled, so you might end up the season with one or two roosters The tighter you cull the quicker you'll find out the flock's limits of improvement but you will also push your timetable to bring in new blood. Once major improvements are achieved, you can slow the generational turnover.

You'll find some wierd stuff to pop up in line breeding. One of them will probably be single comb individuals. Some folks cull these and some do not. Oddly, the single comb individuals will ofter have the better feathers and body types. Watch out to cull beefy combs, the rosoters that have the light blueish hue of the dark barring or extreme fading, narrow feathers, crooked toes, roached backs and crossed beaks.

I went through this routine for a while and the flock hit a ceiling and did not improve. I kept the best hens, culled the roosters and used roosters from a higher quality private source. This is also not an instant success. About 1/4 of the outcrossed birds will please you the first year and will not completely breed true. But each generation of turnover will produce more correct and better Dominiques. Be sure and get somebody experienced with Doms to help you with the first few years of culling. If there is nobody in the local area, email some pictures to somebody. Be sure that the photos are comparable. Develop thick skin for the truth of their helpful comments!

Mark's book is an excellent guide.

--- In dominique_chickens@ yahoogroups. com, "wendyspace" <wendyspace@ ...> wrote:
>
> We have a small farm in Selmer Tn. I have had chickens all my life. I really got into raising them full time in the last few years after my husband suffered a stroke. I bought Dominques last year to raise. I have 23 beautiful ladies and two roos. I also have lots of other chickens also. I bought mine through the hatchery. I've read recently that they are not as good. Would like your opinions on this. Can you make a heritage breed out of them By picking out the best each hatch. I don't know the difference between regular and heritage. any info would be appreciated. Thanks Rindy
>



#580 From: "theebenezerfarm" <theebenezerfarm@...>
Date: Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:03 pm
Subject: Re: Hi New here from Selmer TN
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You can select your way to what the line can do but it may have lost a
fudamental element such as hue of dark barring, carriage of the body, etc. 
You'll need to cull very hard but try to maintain at least 3 roosters and at
least 6 hens.  The roosters will need to be replaced each year by a quality son
if the son is indeed better.  Any rooster that sires extreme wierdness needs to
be culled, so you might end up the season with one or two roosters  The tighter
you cull the quicker you'll find out the flock's limits of improvement but you
will also push your timetable to bring in new blood.  Once major improvements
are achieved, you can slow the generational turnover.

You'll find some wierd stuff to pop up in line breeding.  One of them will
probably be single comb individuals.  Some folks cull these and some do not. 
Oddly, the single comb individuals will ofter have the better feathers and body
types.  Watch out to cull beefy combs, the rosoters that have the light blueish
hue of the dark barring or extreme fading, narrow feathers, crooked toes,
roached backs and crossed beaks.

I went through this routine for a while and the flock hit a ceiling and did not
improve. I kept the best hens, culled the roosters and used roosters from a
higher quality private source.  This is also not an instant success.  About 1/4
of the outcrossed birds will please you the first year and will not completely
breed true.  But each generation of turnover will produce more correct and
better Dominiques.  Be sure and get somebody experienced with Doms to help you
with the first few years of culling.  If there is nobody in the local area,
email some pictures to somebody.  Be sure that the photos are comparable. 
Develop thick skin for the truth of their helpful comments!

Mark's book is an excellent guide.



--- In dominique_chickens@yahoogroups.com, "wendyspace" <wendyspace@...> wrote:
>
> We have a small farm in Selmer Tn. I have had chickens all my life. I really
got into raising them full time in the last few years after my husband suffered
a stroke. I bought Dominques last year to raise. I have 23 beautiful ladies and
two roos. I also have lots of other chickens also. I bought mine through the
hatchery. I've read recently that they are not as good. Would like your opinions
on this. Can you make a heritage breed out of them By picking out the best each
hatch. I don't know the difference between regular and heritage. any info would
be appreciated. Thanks Rindy
>

#579 From: "theebenezerfarm" <theebenezerfarm@...>
Date: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:29 pm
Subject: Re: Hi New here from Selmer TN
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It is possible to improve the flock but you do not know how far that they can
go.  Some hatchery birds have lost the original hue of the dark barring, are
heavy fronted like Barred Rocks, etc.  Cull hard but keep at least 3 roosters
and more hens.  Set a goal per year: combs or feather patten, or whatever.  Cull
narrow feathers, smudged colors, crooked toes, crossed beaks, roached backs, and
any non-breed traits like double spurs.  One iffy is the single combed birds. 
Some folks cull them and some do not.  It is up to you, but it would have to be
a pretty close to perfect bird in every other way to help you in the long run. 
Don't keep roosters that are light bluish in their dark barring.  Turn over the
generations, at least on the roosters every year with a better son replacing his
sire.  Turn over hens as quickly as you can, too.  Watch to keep egg size at
about medium for most birds.

Study Schilling's pictures, even with a magnifing glass.  Read Mark's book. Find
someone experienced to help you cull or send comparable pictures to someone and
let them help you.  Don't feel bad if they think that your pet bird needs to be
"put in the pot"!

--- In dominique_chickens@yahoogroups.com, "wendyspace" <wendyspace@...> wrote:
>
> We have a small farm in Selmer Tn. I have had chickens all my life. I really
got into raising them full time in the last few years after my husband suffered
a stroke. I bought Dominques last year to raise. I have 23 beautiful ladies and
two roos. I also have lots of other chickens also. I bought mine through the
hatchery. I've read recently that they are not as good. Would like your opinions
on this. Can you make a heritage breed out of them By picking out the best each
hatch. I don't know the difference between regular and heritage. any info would
be appreciated. Thanks Rindy
>

#578 From: "Nate" <gr8roo1@...>
Date: Fri Oct 16, 2009 4:48 am
Subject: Re: BOOK WANTED
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I bought "The American Dominique" book 2 weeks ago. Well worth the $55, a good
read and a ton of information. Thank you Mark!

Now I realize the quality of my birds and I'm working to improve them.
I bought a new cock last week with a nice comb/spike/type. They finally started
laying good now after 2 of them going boody, hatching and raising chicks. So I'm
back to hatching chicks weekly to find those special ones.

Nate



--- In dominique_chickens@yahoogroups.com, "Lily" <lily1013@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Gene,
>
> I just posted info on the book at the Dominique Club website
(www.dominiqueclub.org) a few days ago. There are just 14 books left, and you
can buy them directly from the author, Mark Fields.
>
> The cost of each hard back book with the dust cover is $55.00, postage paid.
The check or money order should be payable to Mark A. Fields.
>
> The check should be mailed to:
> Mr. Mark A. Fields
> 1410 Ridgemont Crt.
> Columbia, MO 65203
>
> It's a great book & a must-have book for Dominique fans!
>
> ~Lily
>
> --- In dominique_chickens@yahoogroups.com, "hgriner@" <hgriner@> wrote:
> >
> > I would like to but a new or used Mark Fields book, The American Dominique.
> > If anyone can help me with this please email me off the list at hgriner@
> >
> > Thanks Gene Griner
> > IN GOD WE TRUST
> >
>

#577 From: Bryan K Oliver <bryan_k_oliver@...>
Date: Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:12 am
Subject: Re: Re: BOOK WANTED
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Thanks for posting the information Lily - hope you are doing well.
 
BRYAN

FROM:
BRYAN K. OLIVER
Walhalla, South Carolina 
 


--- On Tue, 10/13/09, Lily <lily1013@...> wrote:

From: Lily <lily1013@...>
Subject: [dominique_chickens] Re: BOOK WANTED
To: dominique_chickens@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, October 13, 2009, 8:22 PM

 


Hi Gene,

I just posted info on the book at the Dominique Club website (www.dominiqueclub. org) a few days ago. There are just 14 books left, and you can buy them directly from the author, Mark Fields.

The cost of each hard back book with the dust cover is $55.00, postage paid. The check or money order should be payable to Mark A. Fields.

The check should be mailed to:
Mr. Mark A. Fields
1410 Ridgemont Crt.
Columbia, MO 65203

It's a great book & a must-have book for Dominique fans!

~Lily

--- In dominique_chickens@ yahoogroups. com, "hgriner@... " <hgriner@... > wrote:
>
> I would like to but a new or used Mark Fields book, The American Dominique.
> If anyone can help me with this please email me off the list at hgriner@...
>
> Thanks Gene Griner
> IN GOD WE TRUST
>



#576 From: "Lily" <lily1013@...>
Date: Wed Oct 14, 2009 12:22 am
Subject: Re: BOOK WANTED
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Hi Gene,

I just posted info on the book at the Dominique Club website
(www.dominiqueclub.org) a few days ago. There are just 14 books left, and you
can buy them directly from the author, Mark Fields.

The cost of each hard back book with the dust cover is $55.00, postage paid. The
check or money order should be payable to Mark A. Fields.

The check should be mailed to:
Mr. Mark A. Fields
1410 Ridgemont Crt.
Columbia, MO 65203

It's a great book & a must-have book for Dominique fans!

~Lily

--- In dominique_chickens@yahoogroups.com, "hgriner@..." <hgriner@...> wrote:
>
> I would like to but a new or used Mark Fields book, The American Dominique.
> If anyone can help me with this please email me off the list at hgriner@...
>
> Thanks Gene Griner
> IN GOD WE TRUST
>

#575 From: "hgriner@..." <hgriner@...>
Date: Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:24 pm
Subject: BOOK WANTED
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I would like to but a new or used Mark Fields book, The American Dominique.
If anyone can help me with this please email me off the list at
hgriner@...

Thanks Gene Griner
IN GOD WE TRUST

#574 From: "wendyspace" <wendyspace@...>
Date: Tue Oct 13, 2009 11:53 pm
Subject: Hi New here from Selmer TN
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We have a small farm in Selmer Tn. I have had chickens all my life. I really got
into raising them full time in the last few years after my husband suffered a
stroke. I bought Dominques last year to raise. I have 23 beautiful ladies and
two roos. I also have lots of other chickens also. I bought mine through the
hatchery. I've read recently that they are not as good. Would like your opinions
on this. Can you make a heritage breed out of them By picking out the best each
hatch. I don't know the difference between regular and heritage. any info would
be appreciated. Thanks Rindy

#573 From: "ddhopkinson" <ddhopkinson@...>
Date: Sun Sep 6, 2009 3:48 pm
Subject: Dom Roos Need Homes
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I had quite a few roos hatch this year, and they are now getting to the age
where they are starting to clash. They haven't started fighting yet, but they
are starting to get frisky. They need good homes. I am in OK at the moment. If
anyone is near here, and would like some roos, let me know. If you don't have
any yet, I could let a pullet go with the roo. Thanks! --Deborah.

#572 From: "victoryfarm" <ms-victoryfarm@...>
Date: Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:30 am
Subject: Re: Mark Fields book, The American Dominique
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At least my "big" hen house is up off the ground, so sleeping quarters stay dry.
And we've had a little dry spell now, so things are looking up. Yes, we're due
for foot baths, too! :-)  Most of mine take handling well - one or two I'm not
looking forward to, but we'll manage.

The girls have all been enjoying some good dust baths, at least, and, so far,
the forecasters are just threatening us with a few possible thunderstorms. But,
when the hurricane heads north, I imagine we'll get some more rain (although
probably nothing dangerous). By then, my plants will be glad of it, with all
this sudden heat.

This has been a frustrating year in many ways. I had really hoped to get more
runs built, as I'd like to breed Doms too. But money has been so terribly tight
(to say the least), and my husband and I are having some health issues that are
leaving me unusually drained of energy. My poor flower garden hasn't seen much
weeding this year!

Oh, and did I mention that, for the second year in a row, I seem to be getting
almost all cockerels from my Orloffs? Ouch! Just what I DIDN'T need!

However, they are sweet guys, like their parents, so that's a big plus.  :-)

Hope everyone else is doing well!

Mary

--- In dominique_chickens@yahoogroups.com, "ddhopkinson" <ddhopkinson@...>
wrote:
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> I've had the same problem. The coops are being moved, and the new coop design
will account for the heavy rains in the area. I haven't had time to work with
the new kids, so they aren't as understanding about having their feet washed!
Firecracker loves it. It's like a day at the spa for him. ;) Right now, just the
floor of the coop is tiled, but I think I'm going to do the walls too, from now
on. It was such a success with the floors, as far as cleaning.
>
> Deborah Hopkinson, Owner
> Dominique Haven Farms
> 470 S. West St.
> Konawa, OK 74849
>
>
> --- In dominique_chickens@yahoogroups.com, "victoryfarm" <ms-victoryfarm@>
wrote:
>
> > But I have to say, this year has been a challenge. During June and July, we
had 29 days of rain. And even those days that didn't rain were mostly overcast.
It's the first time I've had a real problem with odor in the chicken run. It's
just next to impossible to get things to dry out - ever!
> >
> > Mary
> >
>

#571 From: "ddhopkinson" <ddhopkinson@...>
Date: Tue Aug 18, 2009 8:26 pm
Subject: Re: Mark Fields book, The American Dominique
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I've had the same problem. The coops are being moved, and the new coop design
will account for the heavy rains in the area. I haven't had time to work with
the new kids, so they aren't as understanding about having their feet washed!
Firecracker loves it. It's like a day at the spa for him. ;) Right now, just the
floor of the coop is tiled, but I think I'm going to do the walls too, from now
on. It was such a success with the floors, as far as cleaning.

Deborah Hopkinson, Owner
Dominique Haven Farms
470 S. West St.
Konawa, OK 74849


--- In dominique_chickens@yahoogroups.com, "victoryfarm" <ms-victoryfarm@...>
wrote:

> But I have to say, this year has been a challenge. During June and July, we
had 29 days of rain. And even those days that didn't rain were mostly overcast.
It's the first time I've had a real problem with odor in the chicken run. It's
just next to impossible to get things to dry out - ever!
>
> Mary
>

#570 From: "victoryfarm" <ms-victoryfarm@...>
Date: Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:24 am
Subject: Re: Mark Fields book, The American Dominique
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Hi Nate:

I don't know where you are (geographically). Here in New England, I was looking
for a breed that was cold-hardy, which is what led me to Dominiques. I love
their temperament, too!

I also raise Russian Orloffs - now THERE'S a cold-hardy breed, too! LOL! - and
they are perhaps a tad friendlier, but, as much as I like that, sometimes I like
that the Doms don't "follow me around like puppies" the way the Orloffs do.
Almost as if they have too much pride to lower themselves to that level! If I
want attention from my Dominique girls, I'd better be ready to work for it a
little. :-)

However, if I pick one up (with the exception of my "afraid of everything girl,
Ginger"), they will cuddle nicely. And aren't they a pretty bird?

Pretty obvious, I guess, that my chickens are pets as much as livestock! <big
grin>

But I have to say, this year has been a challenge. During June and July, we had
29 days of rain. And even those days that didn't rain were mostly overcast. It's
the first time I've had a real problem with odor in the chicken run. It's just
next to impossible to get things to dry out - ever!

Mary

#569 From: "Tammy James" <gcsba@...>
Date: Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:13 am
Subject: Re: Digest Number 269
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Have any idea how many newsletters are on the cd?
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It is a great book - I was able to get a copy from Bryan Oliver last fall.  Tons of useful information.  Another source of outstanding information on the breed is to purchase the back issues of the club newsletter - there is a lot of duplication between the book and the newsletter.  I think the cd of the newsletter is only $25.    

Dan

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Subject: [dominique_chickens] Digest Number 269
To: dominique_chickens@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 1:42 PM

Messages In This Digest (3 Messages)

Messages

1a.

Mark Fields book, The American Dominique

Posted by: "Nathan" gr8roo1@hotmail.com   n8ster7

Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:10 pm (PDT)



Thanks for the info David. I guess I'm gonna have to break down and buy the book.

Nate

1b.

Re: Mark Fields book, The American Dominique

Posted by: "Tammy James" gcsba@bellsouth.net   gcsheep

Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:31 pm (PDT)



The American Dominique by Mark Fields is becoming harder to find. I heard of a copy selling for over one hundred dollars but I was able to get one directly from Mark. He has a website and I feel sure he is still a member of the Dominique Club of America. You might contact him through one of these. I think the book sells now for around fifty dollars postpaid. If you have a sincere interest in Doms you would do well to obtain a copy.
David

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 6:10 PM
Subject: [dominique_chickens ] Mark Fields book, The American Dominique

Thanks for the info David. I guess I'm gonna have to break down and buy the book.

Nate

1c.

Re: Mark Fields book, The American Dominique

Posted by: "Lily1013" lily1013@gmail.com   othalaacres

Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:35 pm (PDT)



I bought a copy a couple years back, and it was worth every penny. I read it
cover to cover and it is chock full of useful information. A must-have book
if you raise Dominiques!

~Lily

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> Thanks for the info David. I guess I'm gonna have to break down and buy the
> book.
>
> Nate
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    #568 From: Dan Handley <dhandley69@...>
    Date: Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:45 pm
    Subject: Re: Digest Number 269
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    It is a great book - I was able to get a copy from Bryan Oliver last fall.  Tons of useful information.  Another source of outstanding information on the breed is to purchase the back issues of the club newsletter - there is a lot of duplication between the book and the newsletter.  I think the cd of the newsletter is only $25.    

    Dan

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    Subject: [dominique_chickens] Digest Number 269
    To: dominique_chickens@yahoogroups.com
    Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 1:42 PM

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    Messages

    1a.

    Mark Fields book, The American Dominique

    Posted by: "Nathan" gr8roo1@...   n8ster7

    Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:10 pm (PDT)



    Thanks for the info David. I guess I'm gonna have to break down and buy the book.

    Nate

    1b.

    Re: Mark Fields book, The American Dominique

    Posted by: "Tammy James" gcsba@...   gcsheep

    Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:31 pm (PDT)



    The American Dominique by Mark Fields is becoming harder to find. I heard of a copy selling for over one hundred dollars but I was able to get one directly from Mark. He has a website and I feel sure he is still a member of the Dominique Club of America. You might contact him through one of these. I think the book sells now for around fifty dollars postpaid. If you have a sincere interest in Doms you would do well to obtain a copy.
    David

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Nathan
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    Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 6:10 PM
    Subject: [dominique_chickens ] Mark Fields book, The American Dominique

    Thanks for the info David. I guess I'm gonna have to break down and buy the book.

    Nate

    1c.

    Re: Mark Fields book, The American Dominique

    Posted by: "Lily1013" lily1013@...   othalaacres

    Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:35 pm (PDT)



    I bought a copy a couple years back, and it was worth every penny. I read it
    cover to cover and it is chock full of useful information. A must-have book
    if you raise Dominiques!

    ~Lily

    On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 7:10 PM, Nathan <gr8roo1@hotmail. com> wrote:

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    > book.
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    #567 From: "Nathan" <gr8roo1@...>
    Date: Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:40 pm
    Subject: Re: Mark Fields book, The American Dominique
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    Yes I'm keeping my Dominiques. I found the website and the book is $55 post
    paid.
    
    http://www.dominiquechicken.com/A_Book_on_Dominiques.html
    
    I got seriously into chickens this past January when my daughter HAD to have 2
    breeds for her 9th grade Vo-Ag class. from last February-July I hatched
    Dominiques, Delawares and Ameraucanas. Dominiques were the hardiest of my
    breeds.
    
    Now I also have RIRs, Buckeyes, Marans and Guineas.
    
    Nate

    #566 From: Lily1013 <lily1013@...>
    Date: Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:34 am
    Subject: Re: Mark Fields book, The American Dominique
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    I bought a copy a couple years back, and it was worth every penny. I read it cover to cover and it is chock full of useful information. A must-have book if you raise Dominiques!

    ~Lily


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    Thanks for the info David. I guess I'm gonna have to break down and buy the book.

    Nate



    #565 From: "Tammy James" <gcsba@...>
    Date: Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:30 pm
    Subject: Re: Mark Fields book, The American Dominique
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    The American Dominique by Mark Fields is becoming harder to find.  I heard of a copy selling for over one hundred dollars but I was able to get one directly from Mark.  He has a website and I feel sure he is still a member of the Dominique Club of America.  You might contact him through one of these.  I think the book sells now for around fifty dollars postpaid.  If you have a sincere interest in Doms you would do well to obtain a copy.
    David
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Nathan
    Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 6:10 PM
    Subject: [dominique_chickens] Mark Fields book, The American Dominique

     

    Thanks for the info David. I guess I'm gonna have to break down and buy the book.

    Nate


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