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(sorry for my poor english)

The only way to attract new users to eComStation - start sellings of
eComStation PC. Only experienced user is able install eComStation on
Core 2 Duo PC or notebook. If you have resources, please join this
mission and become eComStation reseller.

Here is the list of eComStation distributors, resellers and distributors
of computers with eComStation pre-installed:
official list -- http://ecomstation.com/where_purchase.phtml
mirror list -- http://ecomstation.ru/solutions/?action=resellers

What is eComStation PC?
eComStation PC is a desktop/notebook with a non-standard case, with
eComStation case badge,
with eComStation pre-installed.

Why eComStation PC still doesn't exist? not popular?
* (OK, some distributors are selling PC with eComStation pre-installed,
nevertheless..)
* It's impossible open eComStation shop in every city. Users are living
in different countries, different cities and districts. The size of
eComStation community is not large. Users are going to the nearest
computer shop and purchase hardware there.
* The users always need specific hardware (manufactured by different
companies, new fresh hardware). It's impossible make them purchase
tested (old) hardware only.
* Conclusion: it's impossible make users purchase eCS PC from eCS
resellers only. eComStation resellers do not hasten to offer 2 or 3
models of eComStation PC.

Why eComStation PC is so important?
* User economizes time. All drivers and software is pre-installed. No
troubles with LVM or ACPI.
* Resellers will order service software, other special software from
developers
* User economizes money. PC + software is cheaper than separate components
* It's very difficult make novice users purchase CD with eComStation.
But it's easy sell them eComStation PC.

How to support eComStation resellers and make them promote eComStation PC?
* Support your local reseller. Buy hardware and software from the
reseller again. Order a barebone or notebook from the reseller.
* Promote your local reseller if he served you without problems in your
local user group, forums.
* Request system tools from the reseller





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(sorry for my poor english) The only way to attract new users to eComStation - start sellings of eComStation PC. Only experienced user is able install...
Eugene Gorbunoff
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Apr 12, 2007
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. While I agree in principal with the ideas Eugene has expressed; I believe development of eCS-badged PC components rather than eCS- badged PC systems is the...
mrklake
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Apr 13, 2007
2:11 am

Hi So do I understand your direction may be that eCS resellers/systems Integrators should select one recomended model of one or more "BigName" suppliers and...
Ed Durrant
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Apr 13, 2007
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. Hi Ed . I see four paths here: (1) do nothing - try to support eCS on a wide range of PCs, yet fail at a gradually increasing rate; (2) build eCS- branded...
mrklake
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Apr 13, 2007
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Hi, - is it Mark? (you sign yourself KL/2 so I'm not sure what your first name is), You make some good and clear points as regards drivers. I think one problem...
Ed Durrant
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Apr 14, 2007
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New Panorama Driver Developement http://en.ecomstation.ru/projects/panorama/ Panorama ATI R200 video driver Supported video adapters: * ATI R100: ATI Radeon...
Steven Douglas Taylor
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Apr 19, 2007
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... You are kidding, aren't you? These cards are out of the market since 3 years already. Not only there are none of PCIE devices, the list stops already at...
Kris Steenhaut
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Apr 19, 2007
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On 04/19/07 03:16 am Kris Steenhaut wrote: <snip the (partial) list of supported devices> ... AGP cards using some of those chips may have existed, but the...
Alan Beagley
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Apr 19, 2007
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On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:16:48 +0200, Kris Steenhaut ... Kris, you don't understand how the hardware market works. There is a substantial niche for older...
Neil Waldhauer
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Apr 19, 2007
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... I'm afraid I do. Begin April I had a broken mobo and it has been a hell to acquiere something eCS compatible here. And in the end I had only 2 choices: in...
Kris Steenhaut
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Apr 19, 2007
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I haven't bought a pre-assembled computer since my Kaypro Turbo-XT back in 1988(?) and I probably won't again in the future either. I enjoy the hunting down...
chekmarx
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Apr 19, 2007
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... Within short notice audio, network etc... etc... will be PCIE too. Remember Uniaud is only PCI and has gone into the dark. ... I tried to purchase...
Kris Steenhaut
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... Hi Kris, Can you clarify something for me. I thought PCIexpress was a definition of the physical connection to a card (type and speed of socket), do we...
Ed Durrant
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Apr 19, 2007
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... So it is. ... Yes we do. And we do because _the type of physical_ is embedded in the drivers to. The physical connection of PCI differs from PCIE, so for...
Kris Steenhaut
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Apr 20, 2007
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... Kris, I was not arguing - rather asking for your knowledgeable help in this area. I suspect others like me also were unsure about where the physical...
Ed Durrant
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Apr 20, 2007
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... Hello Kris: I have two PCIe motherboards with PCIe video cards, both based on nVidea (6600 and 7600, I believe. I'm in another city from the PCs and won't...
Mark Henigan
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Apr 20, 2007
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... Nvidea 6600 it is. ... Just have a look on what is available on the regular market - we are ways behind. You can acquiere some of these on Ebay or other...
Kris Steenhaut
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Apr 20, 2007
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... <snip> They may be well behind the latest, but still available from the shelves of the local PC Club store, and several versions into PCIe. So, there ...
Mark Henigan
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Apr 23, 2007
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... Good point about morale. BTW: I'm using a brand new ATI X700 PCI-Express video card with eCS v.1.2R with SNAP 3.18 and with eCS v2 Beta 4 with SNAP drivers...
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Apr 26, 2007
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On Thursday 19 April 2007 09:51 am Kris Steenhaut wrote: [...] ... [...] My company offers preloaded eCS PCs in the USA. We do not sell very many but we just...
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Apr 20, 2007
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... Yes indeed. After much troubles I'd acquiered an eCS compatible mobo too, and alas it had to be a low quality mobo. Excatly my point: it is a hell of a ...
Kris Steenhaut
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Apr 20, 2007
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Dear Eugene and others, The information on this list is not accurate. F/X-Communication in Denmark of course supply their Firewall product for eComstation, and...
Niels Jensen
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Apr 15, 2007
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... distributors ... components ... eComStation PC? ... Hi All: There is one point that you all are overlooking, and that is how much time do you think a...
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Apr 16, 2007
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... Ironic reply to a message calling for pre-loaded eCS computers. I believe the process with an eCS PC is to plug in a monitor, keyboard, mouse, network, and...
Neil Waldhauer
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Apr 16, 2007
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IMO trying to get brand-name systems preloaded with eCS just continues to push the idea that somehow Dell, HP, Compaq, etc actually make top notch computers....
chekmarx
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Apr 16, 2007
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... Hi Thomas, Have you tried installing MS Vista ?? eCS install is FAR easier !! By your principal no one will ever install MS Vista. Which in most cases is ...
Ed Durrant
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Apr 16, 2007
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... cases is ... them ... hardware. ... Hi. First of all, to the person who suggested using Virtual PC to run eCS under instead of VMWare and VirtualBox,...
bikerluvr
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Apr 16, 2007
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... No problem - I still think the Connectix VirtualPC is the best virtualisation engine - especially the OS/2 ported version (no longer available, no longer...
Ed Durrant
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Apr 17, 2007
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... cases is ... them ... hardware. ... Ed: If as you say Vista is much harder, than maybe eCS has a chance to grow some more. I havn't had the previlege of...
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