MWM: Elaine, re your discussion below, here is big picture. Essentially, the
U.S. Stock Market collapsed this past week. Finally, the 25 year Cayce Cycle
came into substantial manifestation. Without MASSIVE ALL HANDS ON DECK
intervention among the inner players, the stock market could have spent all week
plunging to 6000-8000 followed by a two year Odyssey all the way to about 1500,
to bring valuations to $.10 on the dollar while major sectors of the Empire fell
away and evaporated Most likely in a cold, unbendable objective world, that is
about right, Americans are worth only about 10% of what they want to believe
they are worth. However, the establishment bubble-heads are still in massive
denial about the Empire, including even that they are the corrupt rulers of an
Empire which is now widely despised. They cannot imagine that they are worth
far less than their conceited puffery. WHAT YOU SAW in the news as the PR front
for the PLUNGE PROTECTION TEAM, a secret elite group (the banksters) which uses
the cover of Presidential Emergency Powers, to use the Federal Reserve Bank as a
unlimited check book to buy and sell as much stock as they need to maintain
valuations of major securities, equities, and stocks. They work the opposite of
investors and speculators, they work to pay higher prices for equities so that
they have higher valuations. The PLUNGE PROTECTION TEAM, however, probably was
outclassed initially by the sheer magnitude of huge numbers of owners to
liquidate their portfolios. So that is why they are now touting a trillion
dollar bailout and have made a big point of holding Meetings of State between
all the main political entities. What they are saying is that the banksters are
prepared to buy as much equity from the big owners as is necessary to maintain
existing valuations.

When they say they are "injecting" capital and liquidity" into the markets, they
are saying that they are buying as much stocks as necessary with Federal Reserve
Notes (computer debit entries) from anyone who wants to liquidate a stock.
Soon, the PPT, acting as the U.S. Treasury, will buy the bad mortgage portfolios
directly from the banks, pension funds, and others. Right now they are engaged
in high stakes negotiations about what the banks need to settle on, just how
much they will get for their mortgage portfolios.

By acting through the Treasury, the banksters can loan US the money to liquidate
all the bankster bad assets by replaying them with money, so-called cash assets.
If you understand fractional reserve banking, you will appreciate the depth and
BRILLIANCE of this FRAUD. Suddenly they will have hard assets on their balance
sheets, and suddenly they will have U.S. interest paying bonds (the debt we
incur for giving them money) in their vaults. Since these bonds are guaranteed
by the U.S. Treasury, they can count them as assets and use them to secure
borrowing more money (at up to 100x) from the Federal Reserve to loan to other
suckers.

Bingo, the world will be awash with money, glorious money....


Problem is, China still won't want it, you won't be able to get any, and more
jobs will disappear, and mortgages will continue to shrink in value with many
more waves of defaults...etc. etc. etc....probably for the next couple of years.

In other words, this staggering drunkard called America will stagger yet again
and perhaps again....

The world has become harsh. It demands that Americans wake up the morning after
the night of their imperial revelries and smell the vomit which besots
everything.....out, out, damn vomit, out.

There are simple ways out of all the mess, Simple sweeping fair and square
measures which will liquidate everything while eliminating all the parasites and
vampires from the system. But now is not quite the time to talk about them.

For the time being, the R&R Chessboard will be more tightly constrained than
ever....in their minds.....everything more centralized, more consolidated,
easier to manipulate, much greater powers of leverage of men and materials.

But hey, hahahahahaha, what they don't know isa whata they gotta coming...

And, itsa coming. A leveling there must be....among all the classes and
masses....a leveling there will be. This will be the predominant world issue
during the next ten years. It will come to over-ride everything in North
America and in many other places.

In the meantime, anybody with paper assets in any form other than CD's or
Treasury Bonds is being foolish. Take advantage of the U.S. Plunge Protection
Team. Liquidate positions. Liquidate during the next two weeks. If you didn't
listen to the Bears during the past few years, that's just your tough luck. You
had plenty of warming. You cannot ride this out. The tide of history changes,
liquidate your paper bets. The Imperial Paper Tiger is disintegrating, real
people must get real in the real world with real things to manifest their
survival programs for the next few years.

Invest directly in solar hydrogen coop homesteads with very large garden
greenhouses. Put the Greenhouse Effect to personal direct benefit.


At 11:15 AM 9/22/2008 +1000, you wrote:

>Please read all the comments below
>
>I have a neighbour/friend Bob who dabbles on the stock market.
>I warned him about the last drop prior to it happening and
>again about a month ago, i warned him that another great
>fall was coming and it has. However, while i do NOT know
>why or how, i have since strongly warned him to turn his
>stocks into cash before the end of October and not to reinvest
>until February next year. Once again, i say that i don't know
>why and sometimes dates can be difficult, BUT this came
>through very strongly. Last night on OZ tv they had an
>unscheduled 30 minute series of interviews about finances/
>blue chip investments and the stockmarket. They interviewed
>David Kosh, the financial wiz from Channel 7, University lecturers
>on Economics, Accountants, Finance, Superannuation and Stockmarket Experts
>etc even our Prime Minister, which says to me that EVERYONE is in a panic
>including the so called experts whom have appeared
>on this out of the blue program rushed through last night.
>Here and there they also had members of the public asking
>questions and every question posed was the exact same question
>i.e. Should i take my money out of investments/blue chips/stocks
>and put it in the bank as cash. Most of the experts were reluctant
>to answer the questions, sensing that this could cause a rush of
>people withdrawning, this causing a further crash of many organizations.
>However, i would be doing exactly that. I would be turning stocks etc
>into cash. Better to be safe than sorry. Some University experts and
>financial experts forsee a world depression fast approaching. I perceive
>it already here and getting worse each day. Again i say to be VERY
>careful and mindful from late October through to February next
>year. If u haven't protected yourself by the end of October, it will
>be too late. At this moment i get flashes of how it was in Argentina i think
>it was there, where people couldn't even get their own money out of
>the bank. We are entering dark times, where i remember predicting
>four or five years ago, that in the future food and water would become
>the greatest bargining chips world wide.
>
>Having spoken to many over the years, i know that since World War II,
>many Jews, Greeks etc have invested in gold as during WWII owning
>gold proved in many cases to be a life-saver, but i think food and water
>will become even more valuable than gold.
>
>As i have tried to inspire over the past five years, start growing indigi
>food crops for these crops will survive harsh earth changes and no one
>is going to jump your fence to steal your crops/food if they don't know
>what can be eaten. Becoming a bush tucker expert will become imperative
>in the very near future.
>
>
>Love & Massive Hugs Always
>Elaine
>
>P.S. Looked on Channel 7 for a transcript from last night, but couldn't find
the exact program, but here are a couple of reads
>
><http://au.pfinance.yahoo.com/banking/tips/index.html>http://au.pfinance.yahoo.\
com/banking/tips/index.html Oh the video of last night might be that on the left
hand side
>
>Damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn just heard on the news that the Government has BANNED short
selling on our stockmarket.
>They actually opened the stockmarket late. I will go to the ABC for an internet
site news article on this:-
>
><http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/09/22/2370541.htm>http://www.abc.net.a\
u/news/stories/2008/09/22/2370541.htm
>
>http://www.abc.net.au/
>
>Gees this coming on the news just now after my two minutes ago before the news
having said "At this moment i get flashes of how it was in Argentina i think it
was there, where people couldn't even get their own money out of the bank". This
is just the beginning of a VERY dark time.
>
>Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 8:47 AM
>Subject: [phoenix-quest] Fw: Fwd: Fw: Prepare to Sell Monday - Cramer's Mad
Money (9/19/08) - Seeking Al pha
>
>Well I had this and another plus my comments worked up and again my email
turned off, second time. Computer didn't shut down, internet still up, just the
email quit. Blast.
>
>A few quick comments. Is tomorrow the day the DJNon-Industrials take a thousand
point hit and keep going?? I do think this is worth contemplating. So I'll not
compare our situation with Weimar Germany or mention that my Dad was there in
1923 when workers were paid twice a day, at noon and evening, so they could
spend their earnings before they became worthless. Hyper-inflation is coming I'm
afraid.
>
>Best regards,.
>Bob Taft
>The Taft Ranch
>Upton, Wyoming
>(307) 465-2206
><http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=74897>http://www.rumormi\
llnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=74897
>"We hang the petty thieves and appoint
>the great ones to public office." Aesop
>
>Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 6:49 AM
>To: robert bob taft.
>Subject: Fwd: Fw: Prepare to Sell Monday - Cramer's Mad Money (9/19/08) -
Seeking Al pha
>
>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>From: <mailto:semperfidave%40juno.com>semperfidave@...
<<mailto:semperfidave%40juno.com>semperfidave@...>
>Date: Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 11:29 PM
>Subject: Fw: Prepare to Sell Monday - Cramer's Mad Money (9/19/08) - Seeking Al
pha
>To: <mailto:jlkucek%40juno.com>jlkucek@...,
<mailto:lifeforce43%40rockymountains.net>lifeforce43@...,
<mailto:wayne_rb%40hotmail.com>wayne_rb@...
>
>Cramer doesn't impress me although he may be correct. I only own gold & silver
mining stocks. That in effect is a bet against the dollar and it is obvious the
Fed will attempt to print their way out of the whole they are in. Real inflation
is running 13% currently, I expect to see this jump to 50% real quickly and
headed for 100% within 4 months. As such I will just ride this horse into the
stampede. Cramer may be a winner on Monday but gold and silver is the only
"real" money. I think we are going to hyper inflation all while income remains
stagnant.
>
>---------- Forwarded Message ----------
>
>David: For once, I believe Cramer is right, perhaps for different reasons than
he suggests. The rigged market increase over the past 2 days is a sucker trap. I
also believe that this coming Monday we'll see a lot more than a 20% selloff,
much more in fact, simply because bank stocks are the BIGGEST LOSERS on Wall
Street, and the selloff will drag everything else with it.
>
>This coming week could be 'the week that was' in terms of the Wall Street
collapse and bank runs...it is time.
>
><http://seekingalpha.com/article/96432-prepare-to-sell-monday-cramer-s-mad-mone\
y-9-19-08?source=email>http://seekingalpha.com/article/96432-prepare-to-sell-mon\
day-cramer-s-mad-money-9-19-08?source=email
>
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