Mr. Mohammed,

This started as me privately sending you an e-mail objecting to you placing
an article about what you have now characterized as about religion in a
forum on economics. Since you sent the message to 24 yahoo groups which in
turn remailed it to all of their members I characterized it as SPAM. Since
you added no personal comments but merely resent a news article I
characterized it as SPAM.

You have made no attempt to address the SPAM characterization beyond saying
that "I have the right to say what ever I like".

You have not shown a tie to economics. I don't think you can.

You have taken umbrage at my SPAM characterization and my off topic
characterization and are now attempting to make this a religious argument
and a public argument by copying others.

You are also trying to defend your lack of personal comment by saying what a
great author you are.

What brought you to my attention was SPAM and not the content of your
article. I like to persecute SPAMers.

I'm having a little difficulty tieing SPAM and Muslin together, but if you
want to make the link I'll accept your judgement.

I joined an economic forum because I was interested in economics. For an
interest in religion I would join religion forums.

I see you are CCing (to seek support?) what appear to be muslin groups. To
them I say, "I do not descriminate against any religion, I dislike all
SPAMers equally."



-----Original Message-----
From: Munshi Mohammed [mailto:mimunshi@...]
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 9:40 AM
To: bshanner@...; Syed Munir Islam; nabic-l@yahoogroups.com;
muktochinta@yahoogroups.com; economics@yahoogroups.com;
shetubondhon@yahoogroups.com
Subject:


Dear Mr. Shanner,

I think that it is the group owners and moderators
that must determine whether my mail was spam. If they
thought so they were entitled to reject it. It seems
your main problem is with the content of the article.
You may have thought the subject matter not to be
worthy of your attention but many other people did. I
have received many mails commending my effort in
bringing the item to the attention of the readers and
forums. If you have any qualms about religion that is
your personal issue and has nothing to do with me. I
find it offensive that you should think I am looking
for martyrdom and paradise. This is the way we Muslims
are continually represented and it borders on racism.
You are wrong to believe that I read everything that
comes into my mail box. Your whole idea is mistaken
and faulty. In fact contrary to your impression I have
written on many subjects other than religion and there
are very few people that have successfully countered
my arguments when I have written on the subject. You
just have to type my name in the search engine to find
some of my articles and you will get a clearer picture
of who I am and what I have written. But of course
you are not so inclined but I recognise your right why
do you not recognise mine.


--- Bill Shanner <bshanner@...> wrote: >
Mohammed
>
> 1/ Sending a message to dozens of forums, to be
> resent to hundreds of users
> is SPAM.
>
> 2/ "I have the right to say what ever I like" You
> didn't say anything. If
> you had had the originality to say anything I might
> have replied to you
> through the forum but, I thought, why subject the
> forum members to more off
> topic remarks. I can see that the point that relgion
> is rote was probably
> lost on you.
>
> 3/ If you think you have some "god given right" to
> say anything and more
> importantly anywhere then you are a good candidate
> for martyrdom and
> paradise awaits.
>
> 4/ If I were to put your e-mail address on some SPAM
> lists I doubt that your
> only reaction would be not to read the e-mails.
>
> 5/ If you want to promote your religion, or any
> religion, try making a
> logical original argument in an appropriate venue.
>
>
> Economics Group Owner
>
> Sorry to have to make you read all this. If you want
> to encourage topics
> beyond economics please let the group know so that
> members can make a
> choice.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Munshi Mohammed [mailto:mimunshi@...]
> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 9:19 PM
> To: Bill Shanner
> Subject: RE:
>
>
>
>
> Yes I did send that email but it was sent through
> the
> economics forum and not to you directly. The
> appropriate person to complain to is the group owner
> and moderators . I have the right to say what ever I
> like and the group owner equally has the right to
> accept or reject it for submission to the group. If
> you have a problem with that then you should stop
> being a member of the group or you should stop
> reading
> my mails. You have that right.



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